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rolandofgilead41089 t1_jeao2mz wrote

Excuse me, but some idiots online told me that blue states and cities are a mess and don't know how to function, so this must be a lie!

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ChainmailleAddict t1_jeaomhj wrote

Didn't you hear? Ted Cruz called us communists. Guess we should tell that to our utterly-neoliberal state legislature.

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ZetaInk t1_jeas4a0 wrote

If we're going to be called communists anyway, we may as well get the benefits of being communists. That's just good old fashion neoliberal pragmatism.

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ChainmailleAddict t1_jeb3f6c wrote

I really think progressives/socialists would do better around here if they engaged it from the logical "effective spending" side rather than JUST the moral/inequality side. Good spending is something everyone can get behind, and stuff like socialized medicine and tuition-free public colleges are just a good investment that tons of other countries have already figured out.

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amos106 t1_jeb6g8u wrote

Did you know that the most popular communist in American history was born in Taunton? William Foster spent his life trying to build organized labor movements across the country. He was especially known for his advocacy towards fighting against racism both within the labor movement and within society at large. His view was that the labor movement wouldn't be able to build class conciousness and solidarity if all of the workers were too busy being racist to one another.

Thankfully our country worked hard to address these issues. Most of the labor organizers were arrested or assassinated. William Foster's works were actually brought before congress during the red scare, it was cited as evidence of how pro-labor anti-racism is "Un-American". Taunton even deindustrialized, you can't organize labor when nobody has jobs! As an added bonus that forced local hospital to cut back on services. Morton doesn't even cover deliveries any more, no more commie babies! 🦅🇺🇸 🫡

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majoroutage t1_jeb6io5 wrote

Massachusetts is easily the most fiscally responsible of all blue states.

It's an enumerated duty in the state Constitution to strive for a balanced budget.

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jdp111 t1_jeb71ox wrote

They contribute nothing to the economy? Holy cringe. I for one enjoy having food to eat, among other agricultural products.

I don't like their politics either but this is some next level tribalism.

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AboyNamedBort t1_jebq5pc wrote

California is the number one provider of food. I'm fine never eating anything with corn syrup from the red states again.

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jdp111 t1_jebsggl wrote

Not enough to feed the whole country. And it's mainly fruit, vegetables and nuts. If you think we can all just survive off of Californias food you're delusional.

It's also not great for the environment shipping it all the way across the nation.

But yes the red states only produce corn syrup nothing else.

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DJScrubatires t1_jebunid wrote

We also import a lot of our food from Canada too

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jdp111 t1_jebw5ir wrote

We also export a lot of food to Canada. It's roughly a wash. Some years they are the net exporter some years we are the net exporter.

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Miami_Vice-Grip t1_jebw7ak wrote

I mean we probably could. Survive != over eating like 5k calories a day. The average American diet would have to shrink and CA would have to stop exporting crops but it could hypothetically be done. CA already provides like 45% of fruit and veg, but also exports like 50% of what it produces. So combine all that with the food we import from other countries and I think we'd be ok.

If, of course, we could actually distribute the food equitably. The fact that we haven't beaten food insecurity in this country is absurd and a disgusting failure of governance generally. But that's a problem in all states

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warlocc_ t1_jebsf17 wrote

"Where do you think the food we buy comes from?"

"The grocery store."

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chavery17 t1_jeaua2j wrote

Every state is a mess in its own ways. The quicker we stop making everything red vs blue the better off we all are

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whoeve t1_jeay92d wrote

This just sounds like trying to make the mess that's in blue states equivalent to the mess that's in red states. I'll take the mess that's in Massachusetts compared to the mess that's in places like Idaho, where they're passing abortion trafficking bills.

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chavery17 t1_jeb1rdl wrote

There’s a lot of bad messes in blue states to. Go drive down mass Ave this afternoon

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Bawstahn123 t1_jeb3ack wrote

I'll take people shooting dope any day over a Christian theocracy stripping rights from people

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GWS2004 t1_jeb3u16 wrote

I'll take that over my rights as a woman being taken away.

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whoeve t1_jeb2gak wrote

I don't know what the fuck driving down a road in MA has to do with the argument I'm making.

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NickRick t1_jed2sgq wrote

Don't you see, there's one area addicts take drugs. Thats just as bad as stripping an entire state of reproductive rights, the same!!!

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UncleCustard t1_jeb35e6 wrote

Drive on any road in western mass, or visit any hospital, or visit any city. Springfield, chicopee and Holyoke are embarrassing.

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bleep-bl00p-bl0rp t1_jeb4v0f wrote

Try leaving the state. Have you ever been down south, or west of New York? Western Mass could be better, it’s certainly got lots of potential, but it’s not even close to equivalent to lots of other parts of the country (largely due to state programs).

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UncleCustard t1_jeb6zkp wrote

I've been in 48 of 50. Western mass is decent. But not good compared to most of the northeast and west coast

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0tanod t1_jebneah wrote

Buddy go try a hospital in rural red states. Oh wait you can't because they are getting shut down at alarming rates

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paganlobster t1_jeemb6t wrote

Or try getting addiction treatment in those states. They want addicts to die, full stop.

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Elementium t1_jecq2ai wrote

Hey guys both sides! Both sides!

Fuck that shit. They tried to stage a coup, red is a bunch of fuckbags trying to tear everything we work for down.

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TheLyz t1_jebtszf wrote

I thought we were all unemployed protestors... hmmm...

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