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modularmaniac420 t1_itpqx3n wrote
Thanks for commenting. These “BREAKING: (whatever bullshit i read in the Herald or Breitbart)” posts are exhausting. Between these and all the clown comments underneath them, they kind of ruin my local subs
The-Shattering-Light t1_itptwtu wrote
Agreed. It’s really exhausting dealing with the constant barrage of hate
modularmaniac420 t1_itpwtcp wrote
It’s a buzzkill when you come here for leaf pictures or r/Boston for Storrow pictures and end up having to reply to some hateful clown who has nothing better to do than troll us. On the other hand, I appreciate the effort you took to write your thoughtful post, it can real help clarify the issues.
The-Shattering-Light t1_itq4qap wrote
Storrowing is weirdly entertaining! 🤣
Rapierian t1_itpw4ca wrote
Okay, sure. But naming the holiday after the garment her oppressive government killed her for not wearing is still amazingly tone deaf.
The-Shattering-Light t1_itq58tk wrote
No it’s really not.
The hijab has nothing to do with her murder, and is importantly symbolic to many people who wear it.
Rapierian t1_itqwhw6 wrote
If it has nothing to do with her murder, why would we declare a day in her memory as "National Hijab Day"?
SileAnimus t1_its69ku wrote
Because a bunch of old white middle/upper class dudes in Boston probably aren't very in touch with something happening on the other side of the globe?
It's not complicated
Rapierian t1_ituvg9e wrote
Except that the City Counselor who did it is an Islamic woman named Fernandez Anderson.
SileAnimus t1_itwz7ij wrote
That only makes the ridiculousness of making it a day about hijabs all the more hilarious.
UniWheel t1_itqt1g6 wrote
>The hijab has nothing to do with her murder, and is importantly symbolic to many people who wear it.
That's tone deaf, too.
Being allowed to wear one by free personal choice is indeed important.
But being compelled to wear one is unacceptable.
And that's why the association with a person who's death resulted from events originating in the "crime" of not wearing one is absurdly intolerable
The-Shattering-Light t1_itqvjyr wrote
People are not compelled to wear them in this country. Considering it’s this country where the recognition happened, claiming what you have is not reasonable.
abluetruedream t1_itr0uap wrote
I don’t think anyone is saying that having a “Hijab Day” is bad. Supporting the freedom to individually express your faith is important. But creating it in some performative attempt to honor someone who died because of rejecting the hijab is pretty awful.
Do you really think Masha Amini or any other woman fighting religious oppression in Iran would be happy to be memorialized by something called “Hijab Day?”
UniWheel t1_itqxodq wrote
>Considering it’s this country where the recognition happened, claiming what you have is not reasonable.
You're being absurd.
The "recognition" that happened was not of the right of free choice - what's being recognized by choosing the victim of compulsion's birthday is not the right of free choice, but rather the abhorrent elsewhere tradition of misogynistic compulsion.
That's not something to celebrate in a free society, and none of your transparent lies can make it so.
If you want to celebrate the hijab as a personal choice, do it on some day of significance to that as a choice such as a religious holiday, or on a random day, but not on a victim's birthday specifically chosen to celebrate an act of literally murderous compulsion.
We see your lies for what they are.
kuluchelife t1_itsmyi1 wrote
Thank you for showing tania for the unsympathetic, selfish trash she is.
LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_itpicb6 wrote
The hijab itself did not kill her, so the analogy to the police who killed George Floyd is not apt. She too was killed by police.
It would be like naming a day “$20 counterfeit bill day” in his memory.
I agree the naming of this day is inappropriate
HearingAppropriate46 OP t1_itpip9v wrote
It is, the hijab is the reason why she was killed, just like police brutality killed GF
LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_itpixo8 wrote
No. She was killed by police brutality, as he was killed by police brutality.
For Floyd, it was because of a $20 alleged counterfeit bill; for Amini it was because of a hijab.
In both cases the police are the killer. In one the hijab was the prompt and in the other the $ was the prompt.
So the hijab is analogous to the $, not to the police. The police are analogous to the police.
LochnessIntelChief07 t1_itpqiej wrote
Comparing police brutality in the US to police brutality in Iran, a totalitarian theocracy, is ignorant at best.
LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_itqubo1 wrote
This is just how analogy works. They made the analogy. I pointed out the flaw, analogy-wise.
In any case, one can make analogues between two things in different systems. There’s nothing wrong with that. In each case, police killed a citizen without cause.
The-Shattering-Light t1_itpu1el wrote
No it’s really not.
US police kill with impunity members of many minority groups.
LochnessIntelChief07 t1_itpvph6 wrote
You’re right, it’s not “ignorant at best.” I was being diplomatic. Comparing US police to Irans religious police enforcing a dictators vision of sharia law, is fucking dumb.
SketchyCharacter4u t1_itpjd7x wrote
You spelt fentanyl wrong
lurkandpounce t1_itpodn6 wrote
Why does this even rise the the level of Boston City Business?
The-Shattering-Light t1_itqrfn1 wrote
Many Islamic people live in Boston. Many Islamic people are under attack for being Islamic.
lurkandpounce t1_itsd8a3 wrote
>Many Islamic people are under attack for being Islamic.
You're right, there are moronic people out there afraid of any differences.
I completely sympathize with that, and that should be corrected... but I'm pretty sure this action will neither help that problem nor be interpreted as a solution to it.
edit: clarity++
Cheap_Coffee t1_itpp5xt wrote
Yet another meaningless, feel-good gesture.
Now, back to Boston business, perhaps?
Peeeculiar t1_itpayej wrote
And then she gets to claim some type of phobia because people voted her down.
She's a clown and is only doing this for the press and can claim "look at how *-ist they are." She's playing a Illhan Omar card.
SurprisedByItAll t1_itpndof wrote
Agree with you, in Iran young ladies removing their hijabs as a symbolic sogn of equality and freedom are being beaten and killed. Mahsa lost her life so to celebrate they're celebrating the hijab? It's twisted and sick like massachusetts politics so no surprise. Who pushed for it? Ayanna Presley?
successiseffort t1_itpwa5f wrote
Never thought I'd see the day of Boston celebrating theocratic patriarchal oppression
Women must be modest!
Clown world
coolpotato14 t1_itqw515 wrote
Well, I think the idea of this holiday is celebrating a woman's right to choose to wear her hijab in America. Apart from the rules of the religion or laws in other countries. To me, this holiday says that no one should be killed because they are wearing a hijab.
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Edit: I do agree though that women should not be forced to wear a hijab. And I think the holiday is poorly named.
abluetruedream t1_itqzwge wrote
This is what has me so confused. I actually like the idea of a day recognizing the freedom of choice in wearing a hijab. But naming the day “hijab day” and putting it on her birthday makes it seem like she was killed for wearing a hijab not refusing to wear one. I actually had to go Google her name just to make sure I was thinking of the right person. The reference in a comment to George Floyd along with the name “Hijab Day” made me wonder if I had missed hearing about a women being killed here in the US by police for wearing a hijab.
On Ice Cream Day we celebrate by eating ice cream. On National Sibling Day we celebrate by telling mushy or embarrassing stories about our siblings. On Hijab day it would be natural to think it implies people should wear and appreciate the hijab more and have the freedom of religious expression. To put it on the birthday of a woman who was killed because she didn’t wear a hijab is really in poor taste. The optics are terrible and just confusing regardless of what the intention is.
coolpotato14 t1_iu0bn4k wrote
Yes I agree, the sentiment seems nice but once you see their reasoning behind the holiday it's fucked up.
SketchyCharacter4u t1_itph1sq wrote
Clowns
Sloth_are_great t1_itrc5gu wrote
This is incredibly disrespectful!
Ellarael t1_itpugec wrote
The horseshoe comes full circle
The-Shattering-Light t1_itpi7ix wrote
This is an extremely reductive position.
Amini wasn’t killed because of a hijab - she was killed because of a misogynistic, theocratic government uses force to control women.
Equating her death to a hijab is not only inaccurate, it is insulting to people who choose to wear it. It represents a racist reactionary and misogynistic position itself.