ak47workaccnt OP t1_j0u9ome wrote
Will the nimbys win this round?
>"I have a huge heart and I definitely am for these type of projects, this just isn't the location," said Mancuso. "Our kids, I want them to be safe ... As a parent, I couldn't feel safe with my children walking the streets with this kind of homelessness, drugs."
She doesn't realize this is an effort to reduce homelessness and by extension, public drug use and crime?
>"We're maxed out, we don't need it," said Dillon. "Find somewhere else. There's a ton of places in the city that this can go in and, better yet, go outside the city. Why does Dorchester, Roxbury always have to take the brunt of this? And we're just ... we're done. We've had enough."
Yeah! Ship our homeless somewhere else. That's the solution /s
Chunderbutt t1_j0ue0c5 wrote
I’m so sick of this.
>I have a huge heart…
GOOD. STFU. WE’RE ALL HAPPY THEN.
Zizoud t1_j0vdfzg wrote
I have a huge (trash can) heart
NotExcitedToBeHere22 t1_j0uw5at wrote
I could care less, tbh. Put the temporary housing wherever it’s available…
However, unless you are actively advocating for this type of establishment next door to your own home….what leg do you have to stand on in this argument over who’s heart is bigger?
My guess is you aren’t, you’re a keyboard warrior.
Zizoud t1_j0vddby wrote
The proponent’s lead literally is trying to put this type of housing next to his house in JP lol
umassmza t1_j0ubo79 wrote
I can paraphrase that woman
“This area has a lot going for it, cant we ship the bums somewhere crappy. PS I’m not a bad person because I have a big heart”
KerouacsGirlfriend t1_j0uscou wrote
The kind of person who says “I’m not racist BUT…”
tubatackle t1_j0v2uy5 wrote
Are we talking about the same Dorchester?
umassmza t1_j0vfpc8 wrote
Try to buy a house in Dorchester it’s gentrifying. You are in the city have easy access to downtown, parking, and a little outdoor space, especially compared to Southie.
AchillesDev t1_j0wkwgt wrote
Have you been to Dorchester recently?
tubatackle t1_j0x1mzw wrote
Honestly no
TheyMikeBeGiants t1_j0v41cq wrote
If this building gets put into Roxbury or Dorchester, the nimbys HAVE won this round.
Roxbury and Dorchester comprise 50 PERCENT of the GBA's affordable housing. FIFTY PERCENT.
There's a reason this proposal isn't in Brookline or Newton. It wouldn't even make it to the stage that it has here in a town like that.
pelican_chorus t1_j0vlvxs wrote
Amen. People here complaining about NIBYs with regards to this are ridiculous: Roxbury and Dorchester are the poor neighborhoods where these kinds of projects are always placed.
Build more of this in my backyard, in Cambridge. Or in an affluent part of Boston, or Brookline, or wherever.
TheyMikeBeGiants t1_j0vx9qy wrote
Fuckin amen. Build them in Somerville and Charlestown and Beacon Hill. Build ALL of them in Brookline. Build them in West Roxbury too, and in Milton and Westwood and EVERYWHERE along the Cape.
Build affordable housing everywhere rich assholes near what is ostensibly a metropolitan center claim that their backyard deserves protection instead of people on the street.
TheTr7nity t1_j0y4o9g wrote
Why Somerville? The homeless population is pretty low in Somerville. Why not build it where there are a lot of homeless, like Dorchester… where it can be easily accessible?
TheyMikeBeGiants t1_j0zsiuu wrote
Accessible to what? The alleys they used to sleep in before they got housed? So long as anybody can afford the T - which is easier to get than not once you're housed, given that subsidized housing takes a percentage of your income instead of as much as they can get at market rate - then it doesn't matter where they are inside the Greater Boston Area.
For what it's worth, we're already at where you are suggesting. They already build public housing out in Dorchester, a hugely disproportionate amount. That's where the least resistance is, because nobody out there has the money to fight it. Boston's solution to homelessness and addiction is to put all of them in one place, away from all the tourists who take photos, and that's how and why we end up with situations like Mass & Cass.
If we're gonna talk about why the housing crisis is so fucking terrible here, it's because the most politically expedient solution has always been "Well we'll put another bandaid in Dorchester and that'll keep my poll numbers up". It's been that way for longer than I've been alive and it'll be that way until we're both dead unless something changes. We gotta build everywhere else and it can't just be yet more lab space.
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NativeMasshole t1_j0v3c8h wrote
>"Our kids, I want them to be safe ... As a parent, I couldn't feel safe with my children walking the streets with this kind of homelessness, drugs."
They're already on the streets, that's the whole damn problem!
AboyNamedBort t1_j0ut5p8 wrote
I'm all for projects like this. I live by some in Jamaica Plain and they are fine neighbors. But its completely true that Boston is bearing the brunt of this while the suburbs do nothing but send their "problems" into the city.
MrsMurphysChowder t1_j0ubjom wrote
I hope the NIMBYs don't win. I have a big heart" my arse. We need more housing of all kinds, but especially for the homeless.
BasicDesignAdvice t1_j0uknlx wrote
> go outside the city
Why can't they put the riffraff out of sight and away from easy access to centralized resources and services?
Graywulff t1_j0uq6xs wrote
Yeah what suburb will take them?
AboyNamedBort t1_j0utcg5 wrote
A lot of these homeless people are from the suburbs. Why should they be just Boston's problem?
Graywulff t1_j0v0xzv wrote
I know they’re from all over and it should be a distributed problem. How about we make every town share the burden? They did this with the projects building them in towns like Arlington where there are better schools.
Areas with high cost of living probably have high cost of labor too.
I’m fine with distributing it equally across the commonwealth. As long as we aren’t seriously displacing people from family.
There also needs to be the treatment infrastructure in place which boston has going for it. They could build clinics right into these places and have substance abuse counselors, mental health specialists and nurse practitioners on hand to take care of medical needs and detox.
There also need to be jobs for these people. I mean in more rural areas they could run their own farm and grow their own food and stuff.
Maybe locate them near vocational training? My brother said ford mechanic school is free now bc of a shortage of workers.
bdeeney098 t1_j0uz3hy wrote
This hotel isn't near any of the services needed, it's not close to any train stations and there aren't any buses on morrissey Blvd where it's located. I assume they'll be setting up some kind of shuttle service. Why would t that work somewhere outside of the city and residential neighborhoods?
khanyoufeelthelove t1_j0ub6mf wrote
"you know....ship the homeless to a camp...a camp that helps them work...a work camp. use the trains to bring them there..." - interview nimby (probably)
5teerPike t1_j0uz8je wrote
"I have a huge heart" that's still three sizes too small.
ballwasher89 t1_j0v43he wrote
I like your idea, but logistically how do you transport that many homeless people to Texas?
/s
MrRileyJr t1_j0van7g wrote
>I have a huge heart
Sure you do, hun. Probably the same size heart as most Conservatives, since you sound like them.
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