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css555 OP t1_j9ox3af wrote
Read my post.
UncleEckley t1_j9ox4zz wrote
Is it supposed to look like an electric guitar?
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_Dihydrogen_Monoxide t1_j9oxvu9 wrote
Last week I flew out of terminal C and then arrived into terminal A. Then at 9:00 at night I had to find the shuttle bus to terminal b to get to the AirTran back to P4.
sirzoop t1_j9p0a4d wrote
Probably would be a waste of money and a long delay of opening the terminal to temporarily extend it when they are planning on replacing the entire system
css555 OP t1_j9p0pmn wrote
Read this press release....a fully operational new AirTrain is many years away.
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hagemeyp t1_j9p1y6s wrote
I hate this airport and go out of my way to avoid it.
6Emptybottles t1_j9p1z0b wrote
Do you remember the busses to anywhere before the Air Train ? Pepperidge Farms remembers
Sn_Orpheus t1_j9p22jr wrote
Yes, get my steps in. I'm on crutches and that just won't work. Wheelchairs? You've never truly experienced wait times until you have to wait for someone to push you around. I'm hoping the crutches are temporary for me but for those people that are forever bound to chairs or alternate means of transport, this is abhorrent.
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css555 OP t1_j9p48v1 wrote
Could you be any more callous?
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cmacdcz t1_j9p5aw9 wrote
Have you ever tried to drive to the cell phone lot? I swear it might only be a half mile as the crow flies, but the spaghetti layout of the streets makes it a ridiculously long drive.
finniganstake t1_j9p5lza wrote
EWR has TSA at the gate while most airports have it as soon as you walk in. Everyone has to wait in a cattle call. Which airport is better to you? Plenty of things to complain about but this isn't one of them. Take an Uber if it bothers you that much.
css555 OP t1_j9p666j wrote
You seemed to be less than empathetic to the mobility-challenged.
storm2k t1_j9p7mcy wrote
that's because they're going to be replacing the current air train. the new one will have a better connection to the new terminal.
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remarkability t1_j9p88ae wrote
Pro tip:
Until the AirTrain replacement, if you’re coming to EWR via transit, use the NJTransit #62 bus from either Elizabeth or Newark Penn train stations, or the #go28 from Newark Broad St.
They stop at all terminals (right outside), operate basically 24/7, and are cheaper than the access fee that Port Authority charges to Airtrain users.
And they’re faster to the terminals than the train + Airtrain + shuttle bus/walk combo.
It’s my opinion that the NEC heavy rail line should go directly under the airport terminal area (like any modern airport in Europe), or at least extend the PATH (both of these options were disincentivized until recently by federal policy), but until then, this is what we’ve got.
But hey, at least they touted the wide arrival/departure car lanes, that’s totally an easy and spatially compact way for thousands of people to arrive. /s
specialgravity t1_j9p8hy6 wrote
As opposed to? JFK and LGA? Give me a break. Unless you live right next door to them, EWR kicks the shit out of them. Take an Uber and call it a day.
qazxcvbnmlpoiuytreww t1_j9p8qji wrote
what a poetic comment
thebruns t1_j9p8tp3 wrote
Fun fact: They didnt build a connection between the new terminal toad and the old one, so the bus basically goes to A, then leaves the airport, loops around, and enters again to reach B
riellograndma t1_j9pajzu wrote
That’s funny. I just took 62 to get to the airport. I live near Newark so it was only $3 to get to the airport. I will say it’s not for the faint of heart. That shit was overpacked
remarkability t1_j9pbeb7 wrote
Oh I know, the bus route looks like spaghetti.
I really hope that will be addressed when the new terminal Two gets built (even with just a bus-only connection) but knowing how they’re proposing connecting the new Airtrain with old B/C (1.5 mile long passageways), it’s clear that people not arriving via taxi are basically ignored.
And the AirTrain won’t even extend to the employee parking area, for the people who go to the airport every single day.
css555 OP t1_j9pbk5n wrote
I agree! Thankfully the signing is good.
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koalafishmutantbird t1_j9pcz3u wrote
Philly airport is pretty straightforward
css555 OP t1_j9pd9zf wrote
I don't mind EWR at all, but this was a major oversight to not connect the AirTrain to new Terminal A. And I don't know what airports you are talking about, but none of the ones I have been to have TSA as soon as you walk in.
Janderol t1_j9pfvti wrote
Let's waste money connecting AirTrain to the new terminal A then AirTrain is going to be replaced.
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DerSturmbannfuror t1_j9pgmqp wrote
Torturous, typical bumpy, not-enough-room, drop-off-on the-side-of-the-building-bus experience
remarkability t1_j9ph4uu wrote
look at that: frequent, relatively cheap service is what a lot of people want.
That route could totally support 6-12 min frequencies, especially during all this terminal/Airtrain construction.
DerSturmbannfuror t1_j9phmjz wrote
It's the best transit that philly has
riellograndma t1_j9pkd6s wrote
Ha..your telling me. Have you ever taken the GO28 route as well? Apparently it is similar to the 62 route but more geared towards those that are flying. I’ll continue taking the 62 tho if I’m traveling alone
Boring_Athlete9618 t1_j9pnncu wrote
EWR website shows their IS a walkable connection. So two options 1) via bus shuttles and 2) a walkway via terminal A garage and a “covered exterior walkway” and one elevator/ escalator. Will have to see how much of a pain that is. They have to replace the air train anyway as it doesn’t connect to long term parking and they’ve know that for a while.
No-Horse987 t1_j9poohr wrote
That's an old picture. A-1 is demolished and flattened. The AirTrain project is next up on the list, after the other two banjo's (A-2 & A-3) are demolished - which is in progress right now. Once that work is done, the rest of the gates will open up (Phase 2). The AirTrain's maintenance shed is where you see "Bombardier Transportation (that is a spur off the main line) and the PA wasn't going to run the new line from there. So you would either take a bus or walk to the P1 station (where the rental cars are presently at - CONRAC will be fully open during Phase 2) The design for the new Terminal A has an extension that will connect with the new Terminal B (which will be a whole new building) in the future. This situation with the AirTrain will be a ongoing situation, as more busses will shuttle passengers between Terminals (Landside) and passengers (Airside). Bottom line: once the new AirTrain is done, it will be a easy - right in front station. But that will be a few years coming since I don't know how long the AirTrain project will take. The new Terminal B is in the pipeline as well. We'll have to bear with for a while.
uhwhat2018 t1_j9ps716 wrote
you just take a shuttle outside the tran. Its super quick.
bens111 t1_j9psg2e wrote
He’s spitting facts tho
Ok_Temperature_9923 t1_j9pun9y wrote
Randy Rhodes would be proud
SearchContinues t1_j9pxd2v wrote
The best Airport in NJ is PHL.
Ok-Bad7002 t1_j9pyoah wrote
Agreed. It was like 10 mins to get from the cell phone lot to a terminal and that's without traffic.
remarkability t1_j9pzesh wrote
pros:
go28 is the better choice if you’re coming from along Bloomfield Ave (south of the Bloomfield station), connecting via the MOBO/M&E at Bloomfield/Broad St, or via the NLR at Bloomfield Ave/Broad St.
Luggage storage area and racks, different seating arrangement
It also is a decent choice if you are connecting at the EWR North Area from the #107 bus from NYC, or if you’re parking at P6. (You’d actually take the go28 towards Newark/Bloomfield)
Doesn’t get stuck in Elizabeth traffic (because it doesn’t go there), has traffic signal priority along Bloomfield Ave
cons:
It doesn’t touch Newark Penn (it runs down Broad St), so isn’t as helpful for NEC/NJCL/RVL, or any local buses which terminate there. 62 is way better at that.
It doesn’t run to Elizabeth or IKEA (less helpful for people connecting south of EWR)
It has wider stop spacing, so you might need to walk a bit more if by Bloomfield Ave.
Schedule got changed away from clockface (35m intervals instead of 15/30m) because it takes so long to get to and from the new terminal A.
Boring_Athlete9618 t1_j9q0ofs wrote
I just noticed there is a siding to a service shed for the air train that is closer to terminal A than the current station. Lol. It’s labeled “bombardier transportation” on the image.
playdohplaydate t1_j9q2ecv wrote
I thought they had shuttles pick people up from the lots. Did they stop that?
peter-doubt t1_j9q2woa wrote
The interchange between 1&9, 22, 21, 78 and the turnpike should fill you with delight, then. I add 4 miles to my trip because I need to follow their roundabout to avoid a roundabout.
Some highway engineers should be lined up against a wall....
peter-doubt t1_j9q2ygp wrote
Correction: good enough
peter-doubt t1_j9q35p4 wrote
1 877 Kars For Kidz.... (Scars for skids)
peter-doubt t1_j9q3no9 wrote
(leave some time, take light rail from Newark Penn to Broad st)
peter-doubt t1_j9q41yl wrote
>An unbelievably short-sighted design.
You've just defined PANYNJ
iampakky t1_j9q483l wrote
No worry, Air train is being redeveloped. It will be fixed in 10 years.
peter-doubt t1_j9q4c8s wrote
I have a reconstructed knee... How does that help?
css555 OP t1_j9q4y9q wrote
Add in LGA, possibly the only major airport in the US without a rail connection.
cmacdcz t1_j9q5dd8 wrote
It is so confusing. I fly in a couple times a year. I need to head west on 78 and I swear I’m going in every possible direction before I get to 78 and then there’s a sudden left exit-only down to Newark. I’ve done that a few times also.
thisnewsight t1_j9q94o2 wrote
My wife flies A LOT for business. We live 15 min from EWR. I go in smoothly and exit easily.
I tell her to let me know when she’s at baggage claim so I’d leave and pick her up perfectly without being told to leave by the cops.
50000000x better than Logan Airport (Boston)
w00dyMcGee t1_j9qcyvu wrote
I just experienced this last week. I flew out of see, but I landed in new terminal A. Very confusing to get back to p4 parking.
poofandmook t1_j9qh67g wrote
FFFFFFF that lot!! I had to go there to wait for my sister's flight to arrive, and I swear to God by the time I got there, she was texting me that she was through customs. I hate that airport. I ALMOST prefer when she flies from JFK but that ride is brutal traffic. The airport itself is 10x easier to navigate though.
Sn_Orpheus t1_j9qh7pk wrote
Says the person with two working legs.👍 It’s the old saying about walking a mile in someone else’s shoes. I didn’t realize how absofuckinglutely difficult it is to get around until I lost the use of a leg and both hands are occupied holding crutches. Don’t worry though. If you’re lucky, you’ll live long enough to experience some form of mobility disability and you’ll think back to this post and have an “aha!” moment.
Ok-Protection-9857 t1_j9qhd8h wrote
I can forever talk abt this
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Sn_Orpheus t1_j9qlhmm wrote
Fascinating. Me as well. Thought I had a handle on what he had experienced. Nope, not even close.
strongarms3 t1_j9qm8dt wrote
This. There is a walkable connection. Take the AirTran to the old P3 stop, which is now the terminal A stop. There is a 10 minutes walk to Terminal A that is super easy.
ellenmaryc t1_j9qot6w wrote
I would love to know what genius came up with the 78 West local/express lanes split. Always a thrill getting over to the left in time. Is there a way to access the 78 West express lanes leaving the airport?
multigrimlok t1_j9qy249 wrote
Yeah, pretty much, unless you’re going to Newark, stay in the right lanes of 78 until you cross route 21
JimTheJerseyGuy t1_j9r016l wrote
I used to be in and out of Newark all the time. Knew the way to 78 West like the back of my hand. One day, I blinked at the wrong time and wound up in downtown Newark.
njstein t1_j9r24vf wrote
I love a guitar sharp enough to stab someone.
SuperAlloy t1_j9r4xko wrote
If you're only going for a night or two it's worth it to splurge on the short term parking, especially if the job is paying. Walk right out the terminal doors, cross the road, and your car is right there.
Haijinks t1_j9r5gn7 wrote
Cut out JetBlue and it’d be a Gibson Flying V
_Dihydrogen_Monoxide t1_j9r5jpn wrote
I’ve done that before but in this case it would’ve been particularly annoying to park at C only to arrive at A and then still have to take the airtrain. The extra cost would have been for nothing.
Deepeye225 t1_j9r7alc wrote
It looks like balalaika from up top
peter-doubt t1_j9r8k4g wrote
You should see what it replaced... 1/9, 22, 21 had a traffic circle.... It's about 49 feet under the ramps, and obliterated.
They built the spaghetti to end traffic jams, and if you're there any weekday you can see that they failed... (Now they're expansive traffic jams)
obsessedsolutions t1_j9ratm8 wrote
I have never been able to find it
UncleEckley t1_j9rc2qr wrote
cheetah-21 t1_j9rc3pa wrote
The flaw where its impossible to walk to the airport?
dirtisgood t1_j9rdu16 wrote
I get lost every time I try to find it. Now I'm one of those who park on the side of the road.
nonamethxagain t1_j9rplqu wrote
Line up with the Uber drivers along the side of the road. Now that they put jersey barriers on that dirt patch triangle, that’s the best option. Although I have seen cars waiting on the dirt alongside the new barriers
nonamethxagain t1_j9rr6b5 wrote
I fly out of EWR every week, drive to get there, park in P6, and have never used the airtrain. I fly delta so I only go to terminal B but I know Delta is moving to the new terminal A this fall/winter. Will I have to use the airtrain then? Do you only need to use the airtrain to transfer between terminals?
thrillhouse614 t1_j9ruoho wrote
That sign leaving the terminals, It’s got 78, 22, 21, 1+9, Turnpike, Newark, Clinton, New York…maybe more. It’s impossible to figure out while driving without coming to a complete stop in the middle of the road.
MountainHighOnLife t1_j9s9796 wrote
How bad is navigating as a first time out of state passenger getting picked up?
vocabularylessons t1_j9se3rv wrote
A major challenge with the new AirTrain project (which is in progress) is that the Port Authority doesn't own much of the land where the new train will be. It's owned by various private entities who all have incentive to not play nice/reasonable in the purchase and land of the needed land.
ctannr t1_j9sggk3 wrote
lmao have u tried to drive to it before the new signs? it was a single 2x1' tiny sign on the left before terminal A. It was easier to just follow the signs to the Mariott. No one actually knew about the cell phone lot until a few years ago. My friends/family used to just do laps around the loop for a fuckin hour like talladega lmaooooo
ctannr t1_j9sgjcf wrote
pepperidge farms remembers when we didn't have direct ramps to/from the parkway and had to take Lyons ave like real gangsters
css555 OP t1_j9sxted wrote
No, you will still be able to take the bus from P6 to terminal A.
iamstrugglin t1_j9t0rzn wrote
Huh, I thought they were reconstructing the monorail.
cttime t1_j9t59xq wrote
That's because the AirTrain is planned to be rebuilt.
jerseypm70 t1_j9t5nqw wrote
Getting picked up is easy
Ballgame4 t1_j9tb6bb wrote
Going slowly to try and figure out which lane to be in will likely get you rear-ended or at the very least given the finger.
Icy-Town-5355 t1_j9to96p wrote
Pepperidge Farms remembers those good OG days...
FromTheOR t1_j9tumev wrote
Lisa needs braces
MountainHighOnLife t1_j9ve99p wrote
Thanks! I wasn't sure how easy of an airport it was to get through :)
cmacdcz t1_j9zkd2c wrote
Hi, it used the cell phone lot a couple times last summer. I’m not sure when the new signage went up. Years ago are used to go to the Marriott to drink a beer and park for free but now they charge.
css555 OP t1_j9ov6af wrote
The Port Authority spent 2.7 Billion dollars for a new Terminal A, yet did not include an AirTrain connection. It’s either a long walk from the station to the terminal, or a shuttle bus. Real fun with luggage. And unnecessary extra time for your trip.
The red line shows schematically how short of a rail connection it would have been. I think I read that they didn't do a connection now because they are replacing the entire AirTrain system. But that’s no comfort for all the passengers stuck with this situation for several more years. An unbelievably short-sighted design.