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Higgsb912 t1_isl983e wrote

"It's unclear if the mother will face charges" WTF?

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mtarascio t1_islbhn2 wrote

'Stand your ground'

Versus a 6 year old.

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Fizzicyst t1_islf30m wrote

Not even Bébé's Kids are bad enough that you need a knife.

If I had to guess, this was either a horrible accident or the mom had some sort of psychotic episode; either drug-induced or from an underlying mental illness.

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aaj617 t1_islk4ji wrote

Wow.....that is a show I haven't thought of in a few decades lmao.\

To Youtube I go

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Beard_of_Maggots t1_ism1fri wrote

In my town some women stabbed 6 of her kids and two of their cousins to death. She's thought she had to stab them first before the devil could do it.

I'm still confused as to how it's physically possible, as several of the kids were teenagers. How did none of them manage to escape? They kept the details scarce, so we'll probably never know

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IceColdTear t1_islbofs wrote

Probably just a poorly written article and it meant what charges she will face.

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existingfish t1_islfib5 wrote

Or she was suffering from some form of untreated mental illness.

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perverse_panda t1_isn4wjx wrote

It's Texas. Mental illness isn't going to stop them from putting her on trial. It won't even keep her out of the electric chair.

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IceColdTear t1_isnbabo wrote

Now now, lets not rush to that...this is a child that has been born already, not a fetus so it doesn't matter according to Texas.

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DanguhLange t1_isljsk8 wrote

Must’ve been an oversight in editing. “It’s unclear what charges the mother will face”

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Blenderx06 t1_isligp3 wrote

Emphasis on face I think, as someone deemed mentally unfit to stand trial wouldn't, would they? Doesn't mean they go free though, they would be kept in an institution.

This is horrible.

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PointOfFingers t1_isment7 wrote

Another report says mother is being questioned by the homicide unit so I think charges will be coming later. They still don't know where the stabbing happened as the mother showed up with her daughter at a hospital and confessed to stabbing her in a park.

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boinzy t1_isms9yw wrote

Look. When mom says that it’s time to go, she means it.

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Higgsb912 t1_ismjma8 wrote

How does one accidentally stab someone, curious minds would like to know?

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killemslowly t1_isl7ly5 wrote

Not sure if she’ll be charged?

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OrigamiKitties OP t1_isl7qx9 wrote

They haven't said anything yet but there's supposed to be an update in about an hour.

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yohanleafheart t1_ism7jxb wrote

If It was psychotic break due to mental illness you don't charge with a crime but commit to an institution.

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jamesbra t1_ismwg33 wrote

That's not true at all. People are still charged they may just be sentenced to a forensic ward but usually not.

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superthotty t1_ispjvxg wrote

Maybe they’re deciding what exactly to charge her with to ensure it can stick in court

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SexyAcanthocephala t1_isme6zt wrote

I hate how society just lets maniacs raise kids. Think of the sheer horror at five to be killed by your parents. Human beings are so garbage. I hate this planet. Just don’t have kids. I can’t say more lest I be called a eugenicist but we need to do something as a society to prevent child murder. What is going on…

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Isord t1_isn6b5z wrote

You are never going to prevent all bad things from happening. It's not like there is some crazy epidemic of moms stabbing their kids to death. It's in the news precisely because it is uncommon.

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autumnnoel95 t1_isofcq8 wrote

He's still allowed to be frustrated and upset at the world. Sure, it's rare to have parents kill their children. But statistically if you're a child and murdered, it's probably by one of your loved ones. That's pretty fucked. No, you can't prevent all the bad things happening. You can only control your own actions, like being compassionate towards others perhaps

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sluttyjamjams73 t1_isri3tg wrote

Not having kids is a great way to prevent anything bad ever happening to your kids. /r/antinatalism2

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leopard_eater t1_ismv3f9 wrote

I genuinely believe that you should have to apply for a parenting license, a farming license, and a pet ownership license, and their should be training courses for each.

I’m totally ok with the parenting preparation classes to be free and a little bit generic, because I don’t want there to be income and racial biases to obtaining a license. But I want that license to come with renewals, perhaps an annual early years short course and then some spaced out ones until annual teenage ones, but seriously there are so many fucked up parents out there, it’s incredible.

And suffice to say - though I haven’t done too bad of a job so far with my kids (three are grown up, happy relationships, good jobs and we are all close, one still at home who even talks to me when not attached to protein and an electronic device), I would have loved to have had some parenting classes at times, or just someone to ask questions. Every parent has at least some challenging situations with their children, from not knowing if they’re teething or how to handle teenage backchatting.

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MaximilienHoneywell t1_ismy7hj wrote

While your frustrations are reasonable and spot on, these solutions really are somewhat fascist, and the unintended consequences from such policies could be catastrophic.

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leopard_eater t1_isn2l2r wrote

I know, it’s so hard to understand what to do.

It would be nice if there were more parenting classes that could simply be sent to your phone if you subscribed. I also know in Australia there used to be a parent line where you could call at any time and say that you couldn’t handle your child screaming or you were feeling depressed, and they’d give you strategies to calm down or send help out to you if you needed it. I also know that Utah had a ‘baby return slot’ in the side of some hospitals where you could essentially surrender your baby by putting it into the slot, ringing the bell and leaving, no questions asked.

Some of these sorts of things can help parents that just can’t handle it. And that’s ok if they can’t, I’d rather their child be safe and them not having to be a parent anymore if they don’t want to be.

But agreed, there really isn’t a way to ensure that a parenting license doesn’t become eugenics or christofacism, though I wish it wasn’t so.

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SleazyMak t1_isp28re wrote

When all proposed solutions are worse than the problem they’re trying to solve, you’re left with finding another solution (there is none) or accepting that some problems can’t be fully solved.

Better education and free access to mental health services would help this problem - but there’s no solving it as Americans would revolt if you tried to ban certain people from having kids. And they’d be right to do so.

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StuperDan t1_ismwa7m wrote

Who gets to decide who is allowed to procreate? You? People who agree with your worldview? What happens if you don't agree with the deciders?

You can't legislate biological functions and imperatives. You might as well make a law requiring rain only on Wednesdays. No human is capable of playing god this way.

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SideburnSundays t1_isn9ha6 wrote

It has nothing to do with world views. It has to do with a) being mentally stable, and b) providing basic care, neither of which are the slightest bit subjective.

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StuperDan t1_isn9wj3 wrote

How do you propose this parental fitness standard you imagine be administered and enforced? And again, who decides the standards?

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EnvironmentalSound25 t1_ispl61k wrote

Basics. Lack of abuse. Stable housing, food, etc.

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Quilva t1_isrv6uv wrote

Plenty of people only turn abusive after the stress of raising a child

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SideburnSundays t1_isnbd5s wrote

Psychiatry and psychology already have objective standards based on the scientific method. That’s my entire point that you’re failing to grasp.

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StuperDan t1_isne2kb wrote

I don't think many practicing psychiatrists or psychologists would agree with your sophomoric assertion.

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DearMrsLeading t1_isq67qz wrote

I had a psychologist in high school that thought being gay should be considered a mental illness still. Every group has shitty people that don’t follow the standards.

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EnvironmentalSound25 t1_isn467v wrote

We do already remove children from unstable care providers. Proposing that we screen all parents before something awful happens isn’t that far of a reach.

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Isord t1_isn67zt wrote

It's a pretty fucking far reach since you'll need to engage in forced abortions, sterilizations, etc.

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EnvironmentalSound25 t1_isn6dpx wrote

That’s more than a reach, that’s a fucking leap. I’m talking about protecting kids, not sterilizing people.

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Isord t1_isn6fwt wrote

Any plan to control who has children and who does not inherently requires those.

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EnvironmentalSound25 t1_isn6tgb wrote

Sorry, I guess I’m not being clear — I’m not referring to controlling who is allowed to procreate at all. My point is that many societies already do have some systems in place to control the conditions under which children may be raised. No forced abortion nor sterilization required.

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Isord t1_isn7aeh wrote

Ah, the top of the chain was talking about controlling reproduction so I assumed that is what you meant.

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MexusRex t1_isnxosz wrote

You’re mad. These would be abused and filled with corruption.

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sluttyjamjams73 t1_isri9nv wrote

Everything is abused and filled with corruption. But shit parenthood is just WIDE OPEN?

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leopard_eater t1_isnxvai wrote

Yes sadly it just couldn’t be done safely, unfortunately. The road to hell is often paved with good intentions.

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leopard_eater t1_isn23zu wrote

If we actually made this commensurate with more supports for families, it could work.

I’m watching the announcement made last night by our Australian PM about the increase in parental leave from 3-6 months, paid by the government. That is on top of the four weeks paid sick leave that women can accrue to help them initially prepare for and/or recover from the initial phases of childbirth, and the four weeks paid annual leave that they can also take.

Given that a spouse can also take four weeks of personal or carers leave (for holidays, the birth or anything), this means that a woman and her partner can take four weeks off before the birth (birth parent), four weeks annual leave or sick/carers leave after the birth (spouse supporting finances during that time), then they can choose to mix it up how they want from there.

Additionally, many workplaces offer additional paid or unpaid maternity leave and parent leave, most Australian low and middle income earners get a child supplement payment fortnightly, and if the birth parent suffers serious medical injuries due to the birth and needs more time off, their compulsory fortnightly retirement account pays a stipend after three months, and the employer is obligated to keep their job open for up to two years from the claim. They can backfill it during this time, but they must retain the birth parents right to return after recovery.

Let’s see if this increases birth rates. It might not, but I’m curious.

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mreed911 t1_isn3qa8 wrote

Nothing is “paid for by the government.” It’s all paid for by the citizens, collectively.

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leopard_eater t1_isn64cq wrote

Yes, to the tune of 0.1% of our federal budget, which is less money than our last PM spent of tax payers cash to fly to Hawaii to meet with the head of his evangelical Christian church, and then diverted into said church as charitable donations.

We know what democratic socialism means in Australia and we fucking like it.

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mreed911 t1_isn7z1w wrote

All of the government money comes from its citizens.

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leopard_eater t1_isn9frw wrote

Are you broken?

Yes - you said that before, and I responded.

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mreed911 t1_isna65p wrote

You said .1%. I said “all.”

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RndySvgsMySprtAnml t1_isluu86 wrote

I have spent so much time at that park

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OrigamiKitties OP t1_islv5y7 wrote

They mentioned that they couldn't find where exactly the mother stabbed the child in the park but they are investigating. Child was stabbed through the neck, though.

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monteqzuma t1_islfxbc wrote

Tomball gonna Tomball

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upsidevalue t1_ismnm0e wrote

There is evil on this Earth. So tragic.

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TheFirstSophian t1_isld6mf wrote

We know nearly nothing, withhold judgment until even the barest of details come out. Possibly accidental, possibly homicide, we don't collectively know yet.

Edit: saw the Twitter update. Sounds like murder. Investigation ongoing.

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jimtitan t1_islhsjc wrote

Accidentally stabbed her daughter multiple times? No

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BuffaloWiiings t1_islimba wrote

Where was it reported that the child was stabbed multiple times? Am I missing something?

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TheFirstSophian t1_ism1wox wrote

According to the video of the press conference posted elsewhere, there was a stab wound to the neck on the daughter. However, as the mother said 'I killed my daughter', it's not looking... great for her. It's likely murder.

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TheFirstSophian t1_islphmm wrote

Still no updates for further details. I remain withholding judgment.

Edit: Almost certainly murder. Investigation will continue to rule out any alternatives.

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dathomasusmc t1_ismghc7 wrote

Most Redditors don’t even bother to read the articles. They glance at the headline, make a snap judgement on the situation, post their opinion which may or may not be relevant but is almost certainly uninformed and move on.

What makes it worse is how the media routinely writes inflammatory headlines that may be technically accurate but are also highly misleading.

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MitsyEyedMourning t1_isle4c4 wrote

Fuck that, bitch is guilty.

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Archmage_of_Detroit t1_isn7zof wrote

It's rarely that clear-cut, especially if you're basing your opinion on a headline.

Take Andrea Yates, the woman who became famous for drowning all 5 of her children. This case is unique because female family annihilators are virtually unheard of.

Sounds awful, right?

But then you learn the details. Andrea Yates was severely mentally ill. Like diagnosed schizophrenic, hearing voices, multiple suicide attempts, etc. She was on medication, and her doctor advised her not to have more children, as her post-partum psychosis was terrible and getting worse with each one. But then her husband, a devout Christian, convinced her to go off her meds and have another child. A few weeks after that appointment, she was pregnant with baby number five.

After the baby was born, her husband left her alone with all the kids one day and went to work, despite her doctor telling them, again, not to do this under any circumstances. In the twenty minutes interval while she was unsupervised, she drowned the children. She claimed to have been hearing voices, and was convinced God wanted them back in heaven.

Her husband is arguably the guiltier party here, and he displayed basically no remorse. After Andrea was forcibly committed to a mental institution, he got married again and had even more kids.

So yeah, snap judgments are bad.

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Silent_Cash t1_ism625s wrote

I drove past there Friday and thought it looked nice..wtf

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thetaFAANG t1_isljl3o wrote

we're going to keep raising rates until they are no more dependents to stab to death

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