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drpvn t1_iydqced wrote
> New data from the city health department points to disparities in race and gender
> Women were 1.4 times more likely to report symptoms than men
I don’t remember public health officials whining about “disparities in gender” when it came to deaths from Covid. Or life expectancy for that matter.
What this most likely means is that men are less likely to report symptoms, not that they’re less likely to have symptoms. That’s the disparity. Just like men are less likely to report symptoms of depression while women are vastly more likely to be prescribed SSRIs.
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bsanchey t1_iydsqup wrote
Love how you jump to conclusions about race when I said vulnerable communities. The Bronx is the poorest borough and Latinos work a lot of front line jobs that put them more at risk But yeah show your stupidity keyboard warrior.
drpvn t1_iydtffu wrote
You also said the city intends to make vulnerable communities suffer bad things. How so?
bsanchey t1_iye03zc wrote
Look at how the city shares resources. Take as old as time. Just look at schools. The richest neighborhoods in Manhattan have the best stuff for their students. Schools in the Bronx have to layoff teachers.
Lower east side gets a new park. Lots of parks in poorer areas can’t get new paint.
City needs to cut services the poorest areas get the first cuts.
New housing get to be built in better areas and more homeless shelters for the poorest areas.
Bike lanes for good areas. Highest asthma rates for the Bronx
If you live in NYCHA they can’t even be bothered to fix your heat or elevator.
How resources are spent show who gets taken care off and who gets forgotten.
kiki778668574757 t1_iye0cte wrote
Trust me I belive im one of them I have stuffy know mucus spit its disgusting
MysteryNeighbor t1_iye0nuh wrote
Aside from obvious economic disparity shit, there are plenty of Latinos out here who are of the mind that “that shit is just a cold lmao” so I’m most definitely not surprised
princessnegrita t1_iye107m wrote
I refuse to believe that you have no idea what environmental racism is.
drpvn t1_iye1k9s wrote
Is that what OP was talking about?
drpvn t1_iye1whf wrote
The schools with the neediest students get the most resources, I know that much. I don’t know much about the others.
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occasional_cynic t1_iye51fl wrote
> environmental racism
LOL this website is a caricature of itself.
princessnegrita t1_iye5m1c wrote
Is this website a caricature of itself or are you just ignorant and triggered by the word racism?
Edit: what you doing here New Hampshire?
princessnegrita t1_iye6mo2 wrote
Look up what environmental racism is if you aren’t familiar and come back and tell me if you think that’s what they’re talking about.
drpvn t1_iye71n1 wrote
Wasn’t clear from his initial comment. His follow up comment seems to be talking about that. But then again I didn’t think “environmental racism” involved intentionality—his comment was that the city has intentionally tried to make poor people suffer these harms.
drpvn t1_iye8b5o wrote
Mods are searching your comment history.
mrdnp123 t1_iye8ct8 wrote
The media love to misuse stats and data. They’re pros at it
ineededanameagain t1_iye8l2t wrote
Latino here, can confirm. Most of the older Latinos I know didn’t believe in covid until they got sick, over year into it. They’re also super religious so it tracks lol
GlitteringHighway t1_iye8tmc wrote
When you look at air quality in low income neighborhoods it makes sense.
bsanchey t1_iye8zns wrote
A recent report came out the NYCHA replaced only 2 elevators out of all their properties. The elevators have been issues since Bloomberg. And since a federal monitor and all that they have only replaced 2.
People just accept that governments cant fix anything when the truth is they can move heaven and earth to address whatever they want.
Daddy_Macron t1_iye9r4d wrote
And yet, as a group, Latinos have a much higher vaccination rate than White and Black folks in the city. The data points to them taking prevention and mitigation more seriously than most other people.
https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-vaccines.page
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occasional_cynic t1_iyeasou wrote
Yeah, already had my comment deleted for "Covid denial." If some blue/pink hair wants to ban me so be it.
princessnegrita t1_iyeb0e3 wrote
The intentional part is the literal decades of de facto and de jure racism. The environmental repercussions are a side effect.
occasional_cynic t1_iyeb7j8 wrote
He was being sarcastic - turn up your meter.
sutisuc t1_iyebi18 wrote
How do they even break out Latinos as a group given that there’s plenty of black and white Latinos?
drpvn t1_iyebj0w wrote
Yeah that’s not how I read his initial comment, which was saying that the city intends to harm these communities.
themood3 t1_iyeblm4 wrote
Latinos overwhelmingly do not like the term. Not your place to police people on that. Folks has always been a gender neutral term, not really sure what’s the point of using folks vs folx other then for aesthetic reasons.
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Die-Nacht t1_iyecaxn wrote
This is my whole family -_-
Disco_Dreamz t1_iyecxzc wrote
Latino refers to being of Latin American heritage, not skin color
MLao_ t1_iyeczut wrote
>man
Wait, you were being SERIOUS??
princessnegrita t1_iyedxqc wrote
The OP said that having vulnerable groups suffer the most in events like this is the intention of the city.
Another way to say it would be: the fact that the most vulnerable groups have worse cases of COVID isn’t a bug, it’s a feature of a system built on inequality.
BIGTIMElesbo t1_iyefm7w wrote
Just an aside regarding long covid. I had been experiencing the classic symptoms of long covid over the last two months. Extreme exhaustion, brain fog, loss of appetite, mismatched smells and fighting to stay hydrated. I receive IV ketamine treatments about once a quarter for depression and went last week. The following day all of my long symptoms started going away. Aside from a few smell related glitches, I’m a week out now and feel back to normal.
drpvn t1_iyeft3r wrote
Right. He said that the city intends to have vulnerable groups suffer the most. That’s what I said.
drpvn t1_iyegcyy wrote
So embarrassing! I will delete my comments.
MonteXristo t1_iyektps wrote
Yuck! Stay in bed, have some nice soup, put on a good movie and stay warm. Don’t worry too much though, the variant is pretty much just a cold at this point. kisses forehead and tucks into bed
FleetwoodMacNCheese t1_iyenvqu wrote
yep, they are expert marketers.
you may have data that doesn't bode well for a bottom line but if you can tell a story with that data and frame it in a certain light then you can completely change perception of that very same data
whenever I look at a report/article with data, I generally like to jump into the data first to interpret before I read the narrative. my takeaways are sometimes drastically different. but pulling up alternative sources reporting on the same data is helpful to figure out what is what.
iStealyournewspapers t1_iyeo6ip wrote
I’ll never forget making a wrong turn on my way back into the city and ending up driving through the bronx for a while when Covid was in full swing. Almost no one was masked and people were having big gatherings in parks. Just seemed like it wasn’t gonna go well.
Curiosities t1_iyerwaj wrote
There were definitely reports of disparities in gender from the early days of the pandemic and up through now. Several different concerns throughout.
But even in this article, they point out that women are more likely to have autoimmune diseases and be responsible for more household work, reducing available rest time. This isn't necessarily women just underreporting a few symptoms, because the rates of autoimmunity, for instance may be a little off but it's like 75% women / 25% men, give or take, generally speaking.
As a Latina with an autoimmune disease and who is on an immune suppressant, there are reasons why I'm still masking constantly in public and taking other precautions to avoid infection. I fear Long Covid making me more disabled.
drpvn t1_iyesjyr wrote
There were reports noting the disparity but I recall no serious concern from medical officials about the causes of the disparity or how they needed to be reduced.
Women are more likely to do work in the home. Ok. Are men more likely to have jobs? (Yes.) And would that mean they have less rest time? (Also yes.)
It seems highly likely to me that men are just underreporting their “long Covid” symptoms.
chargeorge t1_iyesw53 wrote
Our doors unmasked and our door gatherings have never been unsafe.
Moby-Wan-Kenobi t1_iyevulb wrote
as a latino, we have enough to deal with, we don't have time for these 'viruses' and 'global pandemics' of yours.....por dios
iStealyournewspapers t1_iyew3f1 wrote
If you're outdoors hugging each other, touching each other in any way, having a bbq where infected folks are touching their faces/nose/eyes and then stuff that other people then touch, well then it's not exactly safe, is it?
Shreddersaurusrex t1_iyf08h2 wrote
Se pone vicks
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Jeff-Van-Gundy t1_iyf5iz7 wrote
It was def a problem but as someone who worked in Harlem, Queens and The Bronx every day during the pandemic, midtown/downtown was WAY worse with people disregarding masks at the height of the pandemic. Although, funniest thing I saw was 3 people sharing a hookah at like 830 AM on the block in the Bronx...like why the fuck are you up that early to smoke hookah?
iStealyournewspapers t1_iyfbdf7 wrote
Haha. I hope this is /s
iStealyournewspapers t1_iyfbn3q wrote
Ah haha! Gotta get that morning buzz I guess. Shame about midtown too. I really didn't get out much then and was further uptown so I never saw that area.
Caribbean_Ed718 t1_iyfbve9 wrote
Wow! Really!?
bsanchey t1_iydplel wrote
Not surprising. Like we really need to stop being surprised when vulnerable communities suffer bad things. That’s the intention in this city.