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philly_allen t1_j4r1i7m wrote

Does anyone know if the super friendly security guard who used to be outside the courthouse on the market street side is still around? Older guy, whitish hair, near retirement age, He’d smile and chat every morning when I commuted in and was always so kind, but I stopped commuting during Covid.

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Institutionlzd4114 t1_j4r32an wrote

Yes. He’s not working the door on market as much. But I’ve seen him still hanging out on the steps at 6th.

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FrankGrimesApartment t1_j4r1wa9 wrote

I remember him, havent walked by in a bit but when I do I havent seen him.

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philly_allen t1_j4r2y6b wrote

Aw I hope he’s enjoying retirement in a beach house somewhere, he was always a bright spot in the morning.

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degreelesspotatohead t1_j4r35kf wrote

His name is Kevin. I haven't seen him for a while, but I also haven't been near the courthouse recently.

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JKBFree t1_j4ryo4x wrote

why are all the nice dudes named kevin. hope he's safe and chillin.

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HyruleJedi t1_j4rcord wrote

Between 6th and 7th on Market, he was the last time I walked by there in August before changing jobs

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ell0bo t1_j4rvibn wrote

He was out there about a month or two ago.

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frahutch t1_j4sd9am wrote

He’s on indoor duty now, much to his displeasure.

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Lyeta1_1 t1_j4sm7vu wrote

He's been outside on occasion. He's not the regular guy I see there every morning, but he has been there a couple times in the evening if I'm leaving work late.

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K1ngchip OP t1_j4qs96m wrote

Will be interesting to see if they know a motive, both the federal court and the FBI headquarters are in that building.

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a-german-muffin t1_j4qtue9 wrote

It's two different buildings connected by a breezeway — dude was shot by the back of the courthouse closer to Market, FBI's in the Green federal building at the corner of 7th/Arch. Looks like he parked his car by the loading dock entrance, which always has a heavy security presence.

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PM_me_ab_ur_landlord t1_j4rfhwi wrote

Do Philly cops use body cameras?

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degreelesspotatohead t1_j4rhvlh wrote

Yes, but he wasn't shot by PPD. He was shot by courthouse security. Even though they don't wear bodycams, there are TONS of cameras recording in that area, so it's probably not an issue.

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go_berds t1_j4qqt9t wrote

This is so weird. The citizen alert initially said they thought he had a bomb strapped to him, then they changed it to a knife, now they’re saying “sharp weapon”

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SaltPepperKetchup215 t1_j4qsaar wrote

Just shows how inaccurate the information police are given before they respond to a scene.

Citizen just takes what police scanner says which takes what 911 caller says and copy’s to their platform

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hairlikemerida t1_j4sxj6r wrote

I don’t think most people realize this.

Inaccurate reporting is what leads to the over response of police. They never truly know what they’re showing up to, so they prepare for worst case.

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DavidLieberMintz t1_j4qwb2r wrote

That app is garbage. Delete it and you'll be happier.

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Gabagoo44 t1_j4qxudv wrote

Delete the app so you don’t know when your walking into a shoot out, great advise.

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ColdJay64 t1_j4qywaw wrote

That app is garbage. When I had it and lived at 13th and Chestnut, I would see unconfirmed reports of shots fired right outside pretty frequently. Not once were shots fired lol

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Gabagoo44 t1_j4qzfkn wrote

Let’s see i was able to avoid that stabbing on broad a few years ago because of It, also a murder on 9th and shunk or somewhere around there. So if I can avoid the traffic from shit happening I will. Things also aren’t reported all the time on the news or in a timely fashion l.

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ColdJay64 t1_j4qzwvk wrote

Like you avoided a crime scene? Or you think you would've been stabbed?

i'm not telling you to delete it if you enjoy using it, just sharing my opinion that it's not helpful 99% of the time. If something shows up on the app it's already happened (if it actually happened). If you are already present on the scene where an incident is unfolding it's not going to help you - excluding a few instances of like an active shooter or something, or an ongoing traffic issue.

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Gabagoo44 t1_j4r0pcd wrote

Literally avoid a crime scene I don’t think I’m going to get stabbed and I don’t fear moving around the city. It’s not minority report, citizens isn’t going to help you not get shot. To each their own tbh, if you want to delete it go for it, but negative things happen don’t bother me. This is the nature of the world we live in.

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hockeystuff77 t1_j4r95aj wrote

Given the apps accuracy, you probably didn’t just miss anything.

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PurpleWhiteOut t1_j4qyn9t wrote

Do you really think you'll see a post before it happens? Or before you hear it if you're that close? None of their info keeps anyone any safer

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Gabagoo44 t1_j4qyyjj wrote

It keeps people informed about things happening and even traffic, It’s pretty counter productive to put your head in the sand because bad things happen.

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PurpleWhiteOut t1_j4qzm0f wrote

It keeps people informed about things that already happened, and often inaccurately and if things that end up unfounded but you do you

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ColdJay64 t1_j4qzmgz wrote

Interesting article on how Citizen creates a culture of fear: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/08/it-creates-a-culture-of-fear-how-crime-tracking-apps-incite-unnecessary-panic/

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Gabagoo44 t1_j4qzzgf wrote

Motherjones is like posting a Fox News article.

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ColdJay64 t1_j4r0hga wrote

Valid, but this is an opinion piece I happen to agree with.

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Gabagoo44 t1_j4r0u0b wrote

Fair, I just stay away from opinion pieces.

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DavidLieberMintz t1_j4qztw5 wrote

Not using a junk app =/= ignoring the news. What planet are you from? Better yet, what "news" sources do you "read?"

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Gabagoo44 t1_j4r063y wrote

Only semi reliable news is probably local at this point, everything is super biased and not worth looking at. I don’t want opinion pieces or someone’s politics in news.

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DavidLieberMintz t1_j4remg7 wrote

So you've gone full defeatist. Instead of finding trustworthy news, you rely on social media? That's way worse than reading a fact checked, albeit opinionated, news story from a major outlet.

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Gabagoo44 t1_j4rfxgk wrote

Social media is probably the worst place, everyone is dying of the vaccine on Twitter. Just garbage opinions on every tweet, take the Damar Hamlin story for example. Everything at this point is trash at least with shitty as citizens, once in a while it’s true.

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jbphilly t1_j4s5ezi wrote

>everything is super biased and not worth looking at.

Except, apparently, unconfirmed info spreading around police scanners by people who haven't had time to vet the information at all. Real galaxy-brain level thinking here.

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MinimumGuarantee t1_j4qyi07 wrote

scared? get a dog.

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saintofhate t1_j4r2oy8 wrote

Personally I avoid people with small dogs because no one respects their boundaries which makes them very hostile at times.

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Fattom23 t1_j4qye3h wrote

Good to see that, as long as the spot is reserved for law enforcement, there are some consequences for parking where you're not supposed to in Philly.

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