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K1ngchip OP t1_j4qs96m wrote
Will be interesting to see if they know a motive, both the federal court and the FBI headquarters are in that building.
SaltPepperKetchup215 t1_j4qsaar wrote
Just shows how inaccurate the information police are given before they respond to a scene.
Citizen just takes what police scanner says which takes what 911 caller says and copy’s to their platform
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danstecz t1_j4qt7gp wrote
Steve Keeley reported the vest looked like it had wires coming out of it.
a-german-muffin t1_j4qtue9 wrote
It's two different buildings connected by a breezeway — dude was shot by the back of the courthouse closer to Market, FBI's in the Green federal building at the corner of 7th/Arch. Looks like he parked his car by the loading dock entrance, which always has a heavy security presence.
DavidLieberMintz t1_j4qwb2r wrote
That app is garbage. Delete it and you'll be happier.
Gabagoo44 t1_j4qxudv wrote
Delete the app so you don’t know when your walking into a shoot out, great advise.
Fattom23 t1_j4qye3h wrote
Good to see that, as long as the spot is reserved for law enforcement, there are some consequences for parking where you're not supposed to in Philly.
MinimumGuarantee t1_j4qyi07 wrote
scared? get a dog.
PurpleWhiteOut t1_j4qyn9t wrote
Do you really think you'll see a post before it happens? Or before you hear it if you're that close? None of their info keeps anyone any safer
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ColdJay64 t1_j4qywaw wrote
That app is garbage. When I had it and lived at 13th and Chestnut, I would see unconfirmed reports of shots fired right outside pretty frequently. Not once were shots fired lol
Gabagoo44 t1_j4qyyjj wrote
It keeps people informed about things happening and even traffic, It’s pretty counter productive to put your head in the sand because bad things happen.
Gabagoo44 t1_j4qzfkn wrote
Let’s see i was able to avoid that stabbing on broad a few years ago because of It, also a murder on 9th and shunk or somewhere around there. So if I can avoid the traffic from shit happening I will. Things also aren’t reported all the time on the news or in a timely fashion l.
PurpleWhiteOut t1_j4qzm0f wrote
It keeps people informed about things that already happened, and often inaccurately and if things that end up unfounded but you do you
ColdJay64 t1_j4qzmgz wrote
Interesting article on how Citizen creates a culture of fear: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/08/it-creates-a-culture-of-fear-how-crime-tracking-apps-incite-unnecessary-panic/
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DavidLieberMintz t1_j4qztw5 wrote
Not using a junk app =/= ignoring the news. What planet are you from? Better yet, what "news" sources do you "read?"
ColdJay64 t1_j4qzwvk wrote
Like you avoided a crime scene? Or you think you would've been stabbed?
i'm not telling you to delete it if you enjoy using it, just sharing my opinion that it's not helpful 99% of the time. If something shows up on the app it's already happened (if it actually happened). If you are already present on the scene where an incident is unfolding it's not going to help you - excluding a few instances of like an active shooter or something, or an ongoing traffic issue.
Gabagoo44 t1_j4qzzgf wrote
Motherjones is like posting a Fox News article.
Gabagoo44 t1_j4r063y wrote
Only semi reliable news is probably local at this point, everything is super biased and not worth looking at. I don’t want opinion pieces or someone’s politics in news.
ColdJay64 t1_j4r0hga wrote
Valid, but this is an opinion piece I happen to agree with.
Gabagoo44 t1_j4r0pcd wrote
Literally avoid a crime scene I don’t think I’m going to get stabbed and I don’t fear moving around the city. It’s not minority report, citizens isn’t going to help you not get shot. To each their own tbh, if you want to delete it go for it, but negative things happen don’t bother me. This is the nature of the world we live in.
Gabagoo44 t1_j4r0u0b wrote
Fair, I just stay away from opinion pieces.
philly_allen t1_j4r1i7m wrote
Does anyone know if the super friendly security guard who used to be outside the courthouse on the market street side is still around? Older guy, whitish hair, near retirement age, He’d smile and chat every morning when I commuted in and was always so kind, but I stopped commuting during Covid.
FrankGrimesApartment t1_j4r1wa9 wrote
I remember him, havent walked by in a bit but when I do I havent seen him.
saintofhate t1_j4r2oy8 wrote
Personally I avoid people with small dogs because no one respects their boundaries which makes them very hostile at times.
philly_allen t1_j4r2y6b wrote
Aw I hope he’s enjoying retirement in a beach house somewhere, he was always a bright spot in the morning.
Institutionlzd4114 t1_j4r32an wrote
Yes. He’s not working the door on market as much. But I’ve seen him still hanging out on the steps at 6th.
degreelesspotatohead t1_j4r35kf wrote
His name is Kevin. I haven't seen him for a while, but I also haven't been near the courthouse recently.
MinimumGuarantee t1_j4r36uw wrote
thank you for weighing in.
AbsentEmpire t1_j4r3hrz wrote
Wild, wonder what the motivation was here?
nalgene_wilder t1_j4r3jpu wrote
Yeah that's because citizen is garbage
Marko_Ramius1 t1_j4r5h0n wrote
Sounds like a crazy guy, said he had a bomb in his van, but didn't actually
hockeystuff77 t1_j4r95aj wrote
Given the apps accuracy, you probably didn’t just miss anything.
rovinchick t1_j4rchk7 wrote
I'm going to bet suicide by cop.
HyruleJedi t1_j4rcord wrote
Between 6th and 7th on Market, he was the last time I walked by there in August before changing jobs
DavidLieberMintz t1_j4remg7 wrote
So you've gone full defeatist. Instead of finding trustworthy news, you rely on social media? That's way worse than reading a fact checked, albeit opinionated, news story from a major outlet.
PM_me_ab_ur_landlord t1_j4rfhwi wrote
Do Philly cops use body cameras?
Gabagoo44 t1_j4rfxgk wrote
Social media is probably the worst place, everyone is dying of the vaccine on Twitter. Just garbage opinions on every tweet, take the Damar Hamlin story for example. Everything at this point is trash at least with shitty as citizens, once in a while it’s true.
DavidLieberMintz t1_j4rg2t7 wrote
Citizen IS social media. It's not news. Nothing is verified.
degreelesspotatohead t1_j4rhvlh wrote
Yes, but he wasn't shot by PPD. He was shot by courthouse security. Even though they don't wear bodycams, there are TONS of cameras recording in that area, so it's probably not an issue.
Gabagoo44 t1_j4rk79p wrote
Never said it was.
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DavidLieberMintz t1_j4rnobv wrote
That's debatable.
degreelesspotatohead t1_j4ro4uq wrote
The security are not Marshals. They are court security officers hired by the Marshals. But yeah, no bodycams.
PhillyPanda t1_j4rpyz0 wrote
How is that easier than an app?
MinimumGuarantee t1_j4rqftz wrote
my god.
it's a saying.
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ell0bo t1_j4rvibn wrote
He was out there about a month or two ago.
JKBFree t1_j4ryo4x wrote
why are all the nice dudes named kevin. hope he's safe and chillin.
justanawkwardguy t1_j4s1net wrote
Or just another mental health crisis
jbphilly t1_j4s5ezi wrote
>everything is super biased and not worth looking at.
Except, apparently, unconfirmed info spreading around police scanners by people who haven't had time to vet the information at all. Real galaxy-brain level thinking here.
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frahutch t1_j4sd9am wrote
He’s on indoor duty now, much to his displeasure.
uptown_gargoyle t1_j4sglo6 wrote
"if you're scared, mother-lover, go to church"
Lyeta1_1 t1_j4sm7vu wrote
He's been outside on occasion. He's not the regular guy I see there every morning, but he has been there a couple times in the evening if I'm leaving work late.
hairlikemerida t1_j4sxj6r wrote
I don’t think most people realize this.
Inaccurate reporting is what leads to the over response of police. They never truly know what they’re showing up to, so they prepare for worst case.
solipsisticsundays t1_j4sxz7u wrote
I see him in the afternoon every time I’m on a run after 3pm.
NonIdentifiableUser t1_j4t4up3 wrote
Sometimes it is, but in general, yea I agree.
anonymous_lighting t1_j4t809d wrote
good now we have security shooting too 🤣
filladellfea t1_j4te81d wrote
bombing uh, i mean shooting uh, i mean stabbing?
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RoverTheMonster t1_j4uqjao wrote
Your point could also be about Steve Keeley too
OfferCorrect278 t1_j56ep6z wrote
Good
go_berds t1_j4qqt9t wrote
This is so weird. The citizen alert initially said they thought he had a bomb strapped to him, then they changed it to a knife, now they’re saying “sharp weapon”