Submitted by punkie23 t3_y2o2m8 in pittsburgh
Please let me know if there is a more appropriate place for this.
I have lived in Pittsburgh my entire life and had recently learned of the bomber plane that crashed in the Monongahela.
What are some of the other stories or theories surrounding Pittsburgh?
Some guy made a post on the craigslist missed connections looks for a woman that he saw at the Arby's on McKnight road and she was wearing yoga* pants in the arbys. The Arby's on mcknight road with the woman in the yoga* pants
Edit sorry she was wearing yogurt* pants
So that's why I haven't had any dating success yet, I haven't been to the Arby's on McKnight rd.
Jesse James caught that ball
The pirates were once a good team
The “demon on Brownsville road” book was written by a lunatic
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Let’s add in that Franco made that catch too
Mystery murder of a school mate of mine in mckeesport. Kimmie krimm. Also my dad had me convinced that dead man's hollow was cursed land.
Death of Michael Rosenblum
Care to elaborate?
monongahela monster
Luke the Boy Mayor decided right after he announced his reelection campaign he would rather go after the fabled Monongahela whitefish and spent the rest of his days trawling the waters of the confluence.
This explains it better than I could lol
Thanks! I've never heard about this.
THE FOURTH RIVER!
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I had a coworker who would tell people the government didn't want you to know about the fourth river.
I tried to explain an aquifer isn't a river, but he wasn't having it.
Op mentioned that in the post.
Charlie No Face
The real Ben Roethlisberger died in a motorcycle accident in 2006 and was replaced by a lookalike has lived rent free in my head for years 😂😂😂
https://reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/comments/1bfgyp/_/c976d4r/?context=1
Haha thanks, that's what I get for replying at 5 am.
This is hilarious. I didn't believe that people actually thought this was a real thing until my parents asked me this mysterious river.
More of a Pittsburgh-suburbs conspiracy theory but the Apollo Affair:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apollo_Affair
The conspiracy theory that missing enriched uranium from an Apollo nuclear company in 1965 went to Israel as part of their nuclear weapons program. I can’t tell if it’s potentially true or not at all, depending on what you read it goes either way.
“green man”
An old crazy boss of mine from Homestead told me that his dad and some Co- workers stole a armored truck/car full of money and cut the truck up into scrap metal so that there was no evidence. I was pretty skeptical but he would more often than not pay me in cash with bills from 50's and 60's...... always wondered about that..
Similar post from a month ago which might have stuff to interest you.
Is it really a paranormal phenomenon for a road to end at a different angle than it started
Route 51 in any kind of rain storm.
I always thought it was in Harmar.
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People who believe in paranormal stuff generally aren’t all that smart, so probably.
Do ghost stories count? How liberace was saved by the ghost of a white nun and what today is childrens hospital. https://www.thirdstopontheright.com/liberace-st-francis/
You missed your chance. It was a best kept secret until that Craigslist thing went viral, now the Arby’s roast beef shop on MnKnight Road is just a sausage party. Too many dude’s trying to get in on the magic scared away all the lady yinzers.
I guess the tunnel monsters are real so they don't really qualify for this thread...
Not a conspiracy theory. Just a true urban legend.
That’s been living rent free in your head for 50 years lol
Hey thats where I grew up! Nuke dump is still a wasteland and an eyesore sadly…
He was a real person, and lived outside of Ambridge: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Robinson_(Green_Man)
>Raymond Theodore Robinson (October 29, 1910 – June 11, 1985) was a severely disfigured American man whose years of nighttime walks made him into a figure of urban legend in western Pennsylvania. Robinson was so badly injured in a childhood electrical accident that he could not go out in public without fear of creating a panic, so he went for long walks at night. Local tourists would drive along his road in hopes of meeting the Green Man or Charlie No-Face; they became disappointed to see no such person.
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Well that was a disturbing read
had to go down the rabbit hole. the pictures of the guy they said replaced Ben looked so familiar, then it hit me…he works for Culligan water and he’s been in my house. He did mention that he sold water to the steelers including Ben. Looks nothing like ben to me. if i knew then what i know now, i 100% would have went there with him.
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Kordell Stewart's walk in the park
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The Deltondo case is crazy. It truly highlights how corrupt local politics are, especially in the small towns outside the city. I doubt we will ever find out the full story.
LOL! Amazing.
I feel like if you talk to anyone else in the country about putting french fries on salads they look at you like a conspiracy theorist .... don't know if that counts though...
Is it really a conspiracy theory if the CIA says thats what happened?
An old one was that federal agents were stealing Robert Lansberry’s mail.
https://old.post-gazette.com/regionstate/19990611lansberry9.asp
The only disturbing part is the fact that people believe this shit
It is it’s in multiple locations
There was a case I remember in the city years back where at the end of his workday, an armored truck driver killed his partner/rider in cold blood so he could steal the truck. I don't recall him ever being caught.
apparently he was a small time criminal for impersonating multiple steelers…committing theft by deception. he also mentioned that he used to hang out with players, travel, party, etc…with them. guess that’s better than impersonating.
He owns cosmo in the southside and is trying to convert it to a sports bar
If you are thinking about this pos, he very much got caught.
Schenderovitch and Schenderovitch are actually fishmen
I was, and good.
I went to catholic grade school with him - he was trash then, and I wasn't surprised to see a headline with his name in it. He showed zero remorse. The apple didn't fall far from the tree..
The Shades, or Shades of Death in Level Green. I visited this area frequently not knowing the story. One morning I found, what looked like a brand new, abandoned tent with two sleeping bags roughly 20-30' away from the tent in opposite directions. It looked like the campers made a quick nighttime exit. Gear scattered about. I mentioned this to a friend whose family has lived in the area for several generations and I heard The Shades story. The version they told was that several soldiers were hung in the trees there by native Americans and at night you could hear the soldiers moan and cry.
Another urban legend is that the Terrible Towel was a product of the Steagles merger. After the war when the teams separated the Eagles had absconded with the good white towels and left the yellowed older ones behind. It's rumored that a member of the Steelers organization said something like, -they left the terrible towels for us.
I still can’t get past the idea of putting French fries on a wet meat sandwich.
She had something going on with a high school student who used to be one of her students, Frank Catroppa is in it up to his eyeballs, and the Aliquippa police most definitely committed several cover-ups related to the entire thing.
The weirdest part of that whole thing is that Fishman looks exactly like one of the Shenderovich twins and the other one just looks like some random other dude.
I used to work with the guy who was murdered. RIP, Fester.
Yeah this one is wild. I'm onboard 100% after reading the timeline of this story. Aliquippa is crazy corrupt.
That's not what happened, a lot of half-wrong comments in this thread aside from speculation :
Here's a long read from the BeaverCountian - note, this is not an impartial source, the owner has a major bone to pick with local police and government.
DelTondo was engaged to Frank Catroppa, who is so clearly mobbed up and currently owns Cosmo, one of the nuisance South Site Pittsburgh clubs.
She was banging one of her former students she subbed for from Aliquppa. He was black - and only mentioning that because it's relevant to the motivation behind her murder. If you know Aliquippa Italians, they are super racist. As in, West Aliquippa is all white and one time a black family bought a house and they burnt it down.
Anyway - DelTondo got caught in the old hospital lot with this kid with the windows steamed up. 'Quip cop caught them, but no charges were filed. Then a report about the incident was sent out from an anonymous source at the 'Quip PD to a bunch of people, her friends, employer, etc. Basically putting her on blast for banging the kid (who was 17 btw).
This started a state investigation into corruption of the 'Quip PD (which is a whole other ball of worms) that DelTonda was cooperating with as an informant.
In the mean time, DelTondo started banging the first kids (Sheldon's) brother (Bolton).
Then she got shot in her parent's driveway on Mother's Day. 'Quip PD showed up and basically did a "oh now I accidently mucked up this evidence" and was a total shit show. There was basically no useful evidence collected.
Eventually the first kid, Sheldon Jeter Jr, got put away for a different murder. And it on the surface it looks like they just pinned DelTondo's murder on him since he was already in jail, case closed, bake him away toys, nothing to see here.
tl;dr - She was killed in a hit by her mobbed up fiancé for banging a 17 year old in a parking lot, local corrupt PD covered it up. The whole thing is the epitome of Beaver County trashy.
how is what i said untrue? the quip PD were the ones who killed her from the evidence i saw so what is incorrect about what i said? i watched a video about it from a JCS type channel a few years ago and all ur info is 100% accurate according to what i saw
Me too! With a burned down/run down old children's hospital at the top, right??
RIP Fester, one of the top 5 uncles ever.
> had a hit called on her by her crazy cop husband
This specifically. Her fiance wasn't a cop, he's "The Wolf of Aliquippa" Frank Catroppa.
When this happened years ago I was into it (I'm in Hopewell next door, and formerly lived in Aliquippa). The websites and references are gone now, but Catroppa used to own this "Prestige Worldwide" company (not the real name but something similarly stupidly named) that was basically him taking a cut from sending kids out to sign people up for Comcast subscriptions. It was the most obvious money laundering company I've ever seen in real life. He has since diversified into owning Cosmo (totally not money laundering front)
So many wild theories, I think the awareness around the 4th river stemmed from water clean up movement that happened here. I do think protecting the "4th river" should be a major concern. Especially after the recent study into cancer and birth defect causing pollutants still being disposed in the rivers.
Who's the hitman? The pinned it on Sheldon Jeter Jr. who was already locked up for a different murder.
Where's the theory? We got hard data to back this one up lol
Yes, even more so lol
Herd a ton about KGB activity here during the cold war, but that stuff is very very hard to find any real source on.
Yep they shut down the road like 15 years ago
How about the Asian murder suicide during the beginning of COVID after they "discovered" something new.
North shore serial killer
After reading this I can't help but wonder how this case hasn't been investigated by higher authorities?
gotcha for some reason i thought her husband was actually a cop and not a friend to them
I think that burnt down house is still there in West. Yes Aliquippa Italians are as racist as it gets.
No longer a conspiracy as it's been proven true. But a gun shop that sat in the woods above Thompson Run and Babcock Boulevard was run by a family that were deep into the Nazi party. I went there once with my dad when I was about 13 to visit the gun shop, I remember the buildings looked like something you'd imagine seeing in Bavaria. There was even a private air strip on the land that was supposedly used to fly special interests in for clandestine meetings:
https://darkinvestigations.blogspot.com/2018/05/flaigs-guns-legendary-lodge-which-was.html
I grew up near the Shades. There were some truly wild urban legends about that place. Beside what you mentioned I heard that it was the real site of the battle where General Braddock was killed, that a mailman went crazy and killed his family before driving his mail truck off of a cliff, and most bizarrely that another mailman committed suicide by driving his mail truck downhill and jumping out at the right time for his head and neck to slip into a noose he had previously set up. The last one was always my favorite because of how absurdly impossible it is. Makes me wonder if something actually did happen involving a mailman back in the day that led to two urban legends about mailmen going crazy and killing themselves in that forest.
So who was the hitman? A mob dude?
Mike Ference is a local writer. His kid was killed by another boy who then turned the gun on himself. Mike believes DA Zappala and the Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese worked together to cover up sexual abuse and protect Wuerl:
https://rapevictimsofthecatholicchurch.wordpress.com/tag/mike-ference/
Probably all true...
I'm honestly shocked i haven't heard much more about this. I remember when they ran the story on the news and the moment it was over i told my husband it was definitely a cover.
The Shades is where I found my first stack of hidden porn magazines.
Lol I went to Catholic grade school with him too...definitely no surprise for me, either.
My husband grew up in McKeesport & told me about her. Also went to Dead Man’s for the first time & agree it’s cursed.
Oh my god, this!!! I remember watching his story on Unsolved Mysteries & being like I know where this is!!
The stories I heard still give me creeps. Not comfortable sharing publicly, pretty sure they're fake and made up to scare me. The death(s) at the pipe factory are more believable
We do have this weird facility that i grew up near. I forget during what war ...but they had a bomb shelter they stopped using and sold. Whoever bought it turned into individual homes. Across from these bomb shelters(now homes) is a big compound that is completely gated off and surrounded by barbed wire fences. When i asked about the placeas a kid my dad told me it was an animal testing facility. It has no sign and when you search it on Google maps it is completely blurred. I am almost positive that when that truck crashed with monkeys on the turnpike that's where it came from. Also after that happened the monkey pox broke out certainly a strange coincidence.
One that most people don't know about is that the Buena Vista WTAE tower is also a military base/military operation. Older Pennsylvanians and acquaintances have said that the hillside was dug out sometime after WWII and put back with no new construction at the time and still none today. Also had heard that military helicopters were used during the construction, that's how certain people knew it was a military thing. The WTAE towers surroundings are super suspicious too. It's on a secluded hill and just passed it is a small neighborhood. If you drive there now, you will find everyone living in these houses are military age men that all drive same style pick up trucks. I have driven down it myself to get a lot of mean stares from the men living there. It was surreal. The woods past it also have signs of alot of activities (grated hills and regularly traveled dirt roads) but there's only one small corn field there with no farm around.
Alien ship crashed in Kecksburg, PA. in the late sixties but they attempted to claim that it was a Russian satellite or something... witnesses said it was not Russian... it was some strange hieroglyphics like you would see in an Egyptian pyramid or something and it was Acorn shaped...👽🛸🌰
All I know is that those rivers are so polluted and dirty that any plane that would have crashed in them would have been dissolved in 1 week.
Then how did they find 100 cars ?
A bomber did go into the mon. But I can guarantee no B-25 was carrying a nuke lol.
I always did too!
Nope. But his dad (Frank’s) was an Aliquippa cop and he was killed in the line of duty. I worked for him at mentioned door to door company.
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If you’re talking about a building near Boyce Park They are army barracks as is former homes for service members. Not bomb shelters. There is a sign outside of the facility you’re speaking of and it’s property of the university of Pittsburgh- there’s signs stating as much.
Where/how can one find it?? Very interested in seeing this one.
My mistake you are right they were army barracks. That sign hasn't been there the entire time and I'm still pretty sure that's where they test on animals tbh makes more sense knowing it's the University of Pittsburgh building. Odd though that it is max security and blurred on Google maps for a college building.
I went to college with him, RIP indeed. Such an awful thing to happen to someone who barely had an unkind bone in his body.
I ve been in those rivers plenty of times, I still have all of my fingers and toes, sadly I didn't grow any extra ones.
Having evidence for a conspiracy theory doesn’t make it any less of a conspiracy theory
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What about Edgar Synder? The guy hasn’t aged at all.
My aunt has owned a house on the edge of the Shades for as long as I can remember. She would always tell us about how her house was built on a Native American burial ground and felt spirits in her house since the day she bought it.
I feel like Edgar is dead. Or very, very ill. Their marketing has changed entirely. Every commercial would feature him (and a Pittsburgh athlete usually). Now it's all animated - both the commercials and the billboards. Why won't he show himself?
Penguiiinns Winnnnnnnn!
The Pennsylvania Canal tunnel did run under downtown at one point!
Now that's really cool. I learned something new today.
I guess this means there's some truth to the 4th river myth after all.
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I keep hearing about the Arby's on McKnight Rd. I don't know the story around it but it seems quite infamous.