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turnipmeatloaf t1_je4xblc wrote
They should also bump out those rounded curbs to slow down turning cars. Fast turns are a major threat to pedestrians
ahhh_savanja t1_je6dj1b wrote
Love this idea! You should recommend to City of Richmond Public Works. They operate in the mindset of “squeaky wheel gets the grease” so if enough people put in a request for review it might make it on their CIP list
Interesting-Field-45 t1_je4xi7u wrote
Definitely!
Grouchy-Macaroon-761 t1_je5f3xy wrote
You would love Not Just For Bikes YT channel
Interesting-Field-45 t1_je5ficq wrote
Oh I do! It’s the best!! I constantly fantasize about walkable/bikeable cities bc of that channel
turnipmeatloaf t1_je5h7ch wrote
Their videos are too depressing for me. The amount of work we need to do to fix American development patterns is so overwhelming lol
I’d rather just go shit post on r/FuckCars while someone smarter and more patient than me puts in the actual effort to change things
Grouchy-Macaroon-761 t1_je5ktfe wrote
I know, it seems irreversible. I think RVA is one of the best cities in the region to bike… at least downtown.
plummbob t1_je6nisf wrote
people forget that downtown RVA was literally built before cars existed, so its intrinsically a great foundation for pedestrian, bike and non-car traffic.
nailpolishbonfire t1_jeadfjg wrote
Bring back the streetcars ⚡
cameronmc3 t1_je5u79q wrote
You should check out Strong Towns.
turnipmeatloaf t1_je5uovu wrote
Hell yes. Already in their email list. I second this recommendation for anyone interested in urban and transportation issues or even if you’re just interested in the financial sustainability of local governments. They focus a lot on the financial side
cameronmc3 t1_je5vht0 wrote
It’s super cool stuff. They just did a crash analysis webinar of a recent fatal incident near Monroe Park. I posted it in r/vcu. They review a lot of relevant surrounding issues in Richmond’s transportation system, and obviously pick apart the car-centric design of the streets that surround the park.
mmasusername t1_je662ci wrote
Another YT channel about urban planning that I love: City Beautiful!
cameronmc3 t1_je5u5xz wrote
Love seeing more people become aware that better cities are possible.
FrankieMunizOfficial t1_je5444m wrote
Yeah this is so bizarre to me. Is there a paint shortage I didn't hear ahout? They redid Main street through the Fan in December and repainted them with the same half-assed crosswalks that nobody stops at
turnipmeatloaf t1_je56v5k wrote
Just a lack of political will, and a culture that prioritizes car drivers over all other road users
FrankieMunizOfficial t1_je7gma8 wrote
Seems like a strong candidate for some easy tactical urbanism
lame_gaming t1_je5c245 wrote
“we’ve tried nothing and were all out of solutions!” - city of richmond
i cant wait until the day this city stops making shitty, sorry attempts at making this city pedestrian friendly. if the city cared enough, they could make cary st 2x better for pedestrians, but thats against their pro-car agenda
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je5ecx2 wrote
I think many of the residents here need to take a look in the mirror too. I drive rideshare and I see too many people taking Uber to go 3 or 4 blocks. “We” take cars for every stupidly short and frivolous trip. In every previous city I’ve lived in, trips like that would be laughed at (obvious exceptions if elderly/disabled/bad weather).
lame_gaming t1_je5lyqd wrote
im absolutely hypocritical considering i live in the burbs, but at least im aware of the problems and what we can do to fix things
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je5mxzf wrote
If we made our infrastructure walkable and if we could chip away at the cultural hostility we have towards walking up to 1 mile, we could probably make a decent reduction in traffic, traffic accidents, and pollution.
turnipmeatloaf t1_je5tte2 wrote
Agreed. The most important step is to make walking that mile safe and comfortable and making driving/parking less convenient
watcher-in-the-water t1_je72hdo wrote
IDK I see people walking ~1 mile from where I live in the fan to Cary or the breweries in Scott’s addition all the time. I make that walk myself at least once a week. IMO it’s a super walkable area.
However a ton of people drive in from elsewhere, which causes the traffic. I don’t think there is an easy solution to reduce cars from short pump.
dougc84 t1_je7aubc wrote
The majority of Richmond's housing (aside from city neighborhoods built around shopping districts and markets) is large suburban communities that contain no sidewalks. There are extra-wide roads so drivers go unnecessarily fast through residential areas, making people not want to walk. And, even if you were to walk, there's nothing nearby worth walking to anyway. And there's nothing to look at except boring greyge house after boring pale yellow house. "Oh, Cheryl planted a new azalea bush!" Great, exciting.
People that have always lived in the 'burbs come to the city on the weekend. They drive their massive SUVs down residential streets like they do on their street that could easily be a 4-lane road, and end up taking up two lanes down Cary St. because they don't know how to drive on a narrower street. Then they don't give consideration to bikers or pedestrians because that's not what they're used to. The amount of people are so willing to hop in a $65,000 giant pickup truck that they've never really used and they can't see over the hood, then drive down pedestrian-heavy areas like they own it and pedestrians and bikers don't matter, is appalling.
TrashApocalypse t1_je72n07 wrote
Honestly, I don’t want to breathe in all the exhaust. I don’t understand why people run or exercise on roads when we know how bad the exhaust is.
The only way I’m going to want to walk around Cary town is if they take cars completely off the road. Some intersections I can handle maybe include that block with the parking lot for people to drive, but rest? Pedestrians and bikes only.
Another important point, a lot of Richmond sidewalks aren’t that great and can make it difficult to walk. I know downtown isn’t as bad, but southside is terrible, buses just leave you in the woods 😂
Infamous_Fly1886 t1_je94dsb wrote
So what you’re saying is you don’t go outside much? 🧐
TrashApocalypse t1_je9qzqt wrote
As an amputee, I’ll save my walking for pleasant areas that are well paved, not filled with exhaust fumes or the gun shot noises that cars make now.
Go ahead, downvote away Richmonder’s
nosefur t1_je78wlb wrote
The problem most often is not the City but all the residents and businesses that will have a tantrum because their parking has been removed or customers can't get to their business as easy as they could before. There's no winning.
lame_gaming t1_je7eain wrote
theres that too. my go to example for a pedestrian success story is innsbruck, austria. similar population, but their pedestrian area is booming. it also helps that they have 6 (six!) tram lines and intercity rail to every corner of the country + other countries (as far as amsterdam!)
but they also didnt flatten half the city for highways and supported density instead of suburban sprawl. go figure
PopularMedicinetoday t1_jea7s9i wrote
There was one guy in Jackson Ward that showed up to a meeting saying he didn't want permit parking b/c he owned a barbershop and it will ruin his business for customers to park.
He wouldn't let it go even after he was told non-permit people can be there for 2 hours.
He then said it is a travesty that his customers can't park in front (again).
Then one of the locals said "Maybe you should move your car from the front of the shop since you leave it there for 14 hours a day. That would leave a spot open."
We all proceeded to smirk at that burn.
Then the barbershop owner said "why don't you just build a 5 story parking deck so my customers can park there?" like building one is just a simple thing lol...like, where would we even get the precious block size downtown land in the first place if we even wanted to?
Guy just wanted all the perks and didn't want change. It was so annoying and it reminded me how unreasonable most people really are... I see it a lot on reddit honestly, especially when people talk about subjects they know nothing about.
Asterion7 t1_je4ymjq wrote
Have you ever seen a sharrow?
Available-Reward-912 t1_je5ijkv wrote
Or as we call them: Corporal Bike
DefaultSubsAreTerrib t1_je4yjwy wrote
Dripp_e t1_je63awr wrote
There are some raised crosswalks on Grove near Carytown. They don't seem to slow cars much. But definitely better than these signs that just confuse people.
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je6lkyk wrote
I don’t believe people are genuinely confused. I think they maliciously and/or deliberately disobey them. I see people gunning for the gas and straddling the center of the road so they hit them.
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thottsville t1_je6fwv3 wrote
you mean a launch ramp! 🏍️
J-Colio t1_je4zasa wrote
Drainage and snow plow nightmare.
Also, orders of magnitude difference in cost.
RawDorito t1_je51iwi wrote
Aaaaye I mean it’s not like we get snow anymore 😎
Danger-Moose t1_je57wkw wrote
Or plow it when we get it...
lame_gaming t1_je5cgso wrote
americans when people suggest bare minimum traffic calming: 😡
americans when the dot flattens half the city and spends billions making interstates (it saves them 4 minutes): 😁
J-Colio t1_je6u77r wrote
Engineers who design roads professionally seeing lots of downvotes to a comment explaining why retrofitting this existing road isn't a good idea: 🙄😮💨
There's an inlet in the picture.
ImpoliteArchitect t1_je756eo wrote
i always appreciate an engineer who not only dismissed ideas for better safety and use, but also fails to provide any kind of alternative. these are the folks who design Richmond, ey?
J-Colio t1_je7ezg9 wrote
I don't know, maybe DUI checkpoints.
Cary isn't a hard road, yet drivers manage to fuck up. We do our best, but you can't design stupid out. MOST of Cary is as straight as an arrow. There's like what, two bends near the VCU area? How hard is it to just go slow? You could do things like Franklin where you narrow the travel lane and eliminate parking so the road 'feels' narrow which naturally slows drivers, but unless you want a constant 4 inches of water to drive through every time it rains, geometric changes to most of the road isn't going to be feasible - ESPECIALLY given current design standards.
If you look at how many inlets are out into new facilities it's crazy. Every manhole structure is like $6k a pop EASY.
turnipmeatloaf t1_je9bkgx wrote
Never trust an American road engineer. They’re the ones that ruined our cities
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je77t4l wrote
The city doesn’t exactly hire the best.
Utretch t1_je58u1t wrote
Somehow Europe manages that just fine
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je5arnq wrote
As do other cities in both the US and even elsewhere in Virginia. The city government here just always chooses the laziest/cheapest option for any given situation while making lazy/lame excuses as to why their way is the only way.
Every member of the city council and the mayor needs to be flushed out like the turds they are.
Rvacat t1_je6h38h wrote
People in RVA have no chill for pedestrians . I've almost been hit multiple times trying to cross from the Carillon to Maymont using the crosswalk . Even with flashing lights people still drive through going 55+
DefaultSubsAreTerrib t1_je6w3no wrote
Once I was crossing Park Dr in Byrd Park with my two kids. A driver stopped to let us pass. The driver behind them swerved around the stopped car and nearly ran us over.
elefant_HOUSE t1_je551gz wrote
Pedestrian signs on Dock st
foxcat505 t1_je5vr55 wrote
Def the worst crossing - so dangerous
theeandthine t1_je74ars wrote
Also, those signs below the Holocaust museum have been trashed at least three times that I'm aware of. Why keep spending money to fix them, when they don't actually get people to stop. I think raised cross walks would do more to slow people down, if not get them to stop.
Infamous_Fly1886 t1_je6ohxa wrote
I agree. And the crosswalks in some areas don’t light up to warn drivers
J-Colio t1_je6up3i wrote
I prefer crossing at the one that doesn't have a signal because
A. I don't trust drivers to actually stop. B. There's less traffic C. There's much more sight distance (which is why it doesn't really need a dedicated signal)
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je561k0 wrote
They worked fine in other cities I’ve lived where the driving culture is different. They cannot and will not work in RVA because the driving culture is too aggressive.
TreeFireAsh t1_je56251 wrote
I ride a Vespa down Cary going to work everyday. If I get behind a box truck, or the like, and want to change lanes, those signs come out of nowhere. And they never last. There one day and smashed to shit the next leaving just the bolted base in the middle of the road. Waste of money and super hazardous.
Cheerwined_V2 t1_je5nmj7 wrote
The one off rowland was tagged within 24hrs of it being installed and then run over 48 hours later. I laughed when I saw them putting them up in the first place. It’ll never change
1975hh3 t1_je70ycr wrote
These won’t work effectively until they address the parking up to the curb. People driving can’t see pedestrians waiting to cross due to the big ass cars parked at every intersection. They need to put those concrete bump outs that prevent cars from parking on the corners at every intersection.
h0tsauce4thesoul t1_je56etj wrote
(maybe not perfect here but..) why dont more roads utilize rumble strips to raise driver awareness in certain areas?
turnipmeatloaf t1_je57jhc wrote
Idk about on city streets, but rumble strips have saved my life several times on the highway. I had a long commute for a while a few years ago and would regularly struggle with staying awake. A few times I drifted off and was alerted by those strips.
Literal life saving infrastructure
h0tsauce4thesoul t1_je5u9fh wrote
They are a massive safety feature on highways for sure and used significantly throughout the nation - which is why i've always wondered why we dont use them more. I feel like they are probably one of the most efficient driver alert/behavior modification systems out there. Efficient by cost to install, maintain, not as divisive as speed bumps, dont impact certain vehicles like snow plows or other vehicles, and it wont damage your car if you accidentally dont see it or take it too fast (we've all been there).
lame_gaming t1_je5co1x wrote
better yet, speed bumps
Infamous_Fly1886 t1_je94pxc wrote
Because that’ll be something they won’t want to replace 5-10 yrs down the line. Like the one on WAMSLEY near the train tracks
freetimerva t1_je5s3bg wrote
The city prefers expensive solutions that dont actually solve the problem.
This way, they can pay someone to go around and re-do them constantly.
turnipmeatloaf t1_je5u34r wrote
Let’s just spend another half million on a slogan to encourage safe driving like “Richmond Real Safe” or whatever
freetimerva t1_je5yznf wrote
"Don't Kill the Vibe on Robinson"
PopularMedicinetoday t1_jea7820 wrote
Not saying we shouldn't do other things but this seems pretty cheap to me - a piece of plastic drilled into the ground....
freetimerva t1_jea7st6 wrote
Unfortunately it wasn't cheap. Cant remember the quote byt the city budgeted a good chunk of change for these traffic calming measures. And it's also the cost of a guy closing lanes to reinstall them multiple times a year.
nosefur t1_je7936p wrote
What do you think the better cheaper solution is?
freetimerva t1_je7lwhi wrote
A coat of paint on the crosswalk would do more.
nailpolishbonfire t1_jeadlko wrote
Arming pedestrians with spike strips to use at will
cameronmc3 t1_je5u3xh wrote
Raise the crosswalk, add bump outs to the corners and “daylight” the cross walk. The point of Cary street is to create a pleasant area, not just move through traffic.
SandingNovation t1_je65rcl wrote
I will forever contend that these don't work on cary in particular because of poor sight lines. As a person who drives a small car, I can't see past the giant SUVs parked on both sides of the street, or the ones driving in front of, behind me, and to my immediate side. Between weaving between vehicles that are double parked with their flashers on, pedestrians using crosswalks, pedestrians crossing without crosswalks, people parallel parking, vehicles pulling out from side streets, etc, it's very difficult to spot somebody waiting to cross.
If you're in one lane with a vehicle in the other lane slightly ahead of you, you can't see somebody waiting to cross at all.
markerfive t1_je6o15a wrote
I’ve lived in cities where people actually stopped for pedestrians standing on the curb at a crosswalk. The cities also ticketed for failure to yield to pedestrians. I’m not sure why this is so difficult in Richmond.
jackmeawf t1_je9tpjo wrote
I just got yelled at for this on this sub a few months ago. Apparently you aren't supposed to stop for people waiting to cross, only actively crossing? News to me
dalbach77 t1_je50xz4 wrote
Main/Elliewood and Cary need to be either one lane if they remain one way streets, or make them 2 way streets.
BreathAffectionate65 t1_je649yd wrote
They need lights and overhead walkways. That literally would eliminate these problems. They also need to stop letting cars park ALL THE WAY up to the corner where it makes it impossible to see when you want to go straight or make a turn
SandingNovation t1_je66l1i wrote
Yesssss. I drive a Corolla and it is literally impossible to see anything when you try to pull out onto a street in this city because there's a Chevy suburban pulled up to the edge of the curb on one side and an f-250 on the other
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je78mou wrote
It doesn’t help that a 2023 F-150 is about the same size as a 2003 F-350. Trucks and SUVs are too big and should be regulated in terms of height. Downvote away.
now0w t1_je6kto6 wrote
This is probably the thing I hate most about driving around Richmond on a daily basis. The vast majority of times I try to turn onto another street my view is completely blocked by cars parked right up to those corners. You'd think driving an SUV and having a higher vantage point would help, but honestly I still can't see shit and it stresses me out every time. I just want to make a damn turn without perpetually being terrified of taking out a pedestrian.
Infamous_Fly1886 t1_je954ho wrote
I drive a lifted ford explorer and still have trouble seeing so I understand
Dog_Dad_1989 OP t1_je6li1d wrote
The blind turns are horrifying! There are near misses by my house on a daily basis and I have witnessed a few accidents
iWannaCupOfJoe t1_je6j598 wrote
Overhead walkways are a dumb and expensive idea that would never realistically work. They are too big for most parts of town, and would inhibit people who can't take steps. If you build a ramp they wouldn't fit anywhere.
Drivers need to be impeded by infrastructure to feel unsafe and uncomfortable. That feeling will cause them to slow down and be more careful 9 out of 10 times. For the 1 out of 10 hopefully they wreck their vehicle prior to killing a vulnerable road user.
BreathAffectionate65 t1_je6kxf9 wrote
How is it dumb when it works to cut down “accidental deaths 😒it worked when the bike races came to the city. I’d rather have my money go towards that than the new plants they are putting on the sidewalk by the DMV
iWannaCupOfJoe t1_je6ozvi wrote
Do you know how many intersections there are in the city? Do you honestly think there is room to build pedestrian walkways over every intersection? The sidewalks are not wide enough to support that sort of infrastructure, and people wouldn’t want to walk up a full flight of stairs to cross the street.
BreathAffectionate65 t1_je6pwru wrote
Have you lived in an actual city? Richmond isn’t that big & most intersections don’t need one, just the ones that cause the most problems, which aren’t a lot. Maybe a handful, which usually are the ones in the fan & Carytown. Most people here know how to walk but most don’t know how to “properly” drive & obey traffic laws cause most don’t know them.
Ditovontease t1_je55ldh wrote
The crosswalk in front of cobra cabana
also during the pandemic there was the northside one
jackmeawf t1_je9thct wrote
Omg yes. The sign was down for awhile and they just put it back up. I live across from it and i always think at some point some drunk person is going to get seriously hurt thinking cars will stop. People fly down this street instead of Broad. They just repaved the whole thing like a nice smooth race track! I do not know why no one cares to put a speed bump in.
castyourstones t1_je563oc wrote
Mayor Levar Stoney
One_Relationship_815 t1_je5yj03 wrote
The budget was 10,000$ to put these back up after the initial placement last year. These literally do nothing and have wasted 20k in our taxpayer money thusfar
Cactuscouch757 t1_je5qgfj wrote
The real answer needs to come from drivers. They should make the driving test harder each year until the driving population is reduced by 20% but this conflicts with the whole "driving is a right" crowd. Plenty of places have pedestrian safety without millions of dollars of extra pedestrian infrastructure.
penelopeiris t1_je5yfar wrote
Thank you! I understand this crosswalk is very poorly marked, but no matter how many infrastructure improvements and how much enforcement is done, people will behave how they want to behave. And sadly we live in an extremely car-centric city.
I am ready for my downvotes.
getfast37 t1_je7cuka wrote
Just passing the test isn't all it takes. You also have to actively give a shit about others you're sharing the road with every time you drive. Crazy stuff!
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je786sn wrote
I would love to see 2/3rds of all drivers licenses revoked. Unfortunately that would strand tens of millions of people who through no choice of their own were born in a country that forces car ownership by way of providing no alternatives.
moomoomilktank t1_je925s2 wrote
One of the dumbest comments I've ever seen on this subreddit
Cactuscouch757 t1_je9hzlr wrote
Great point. How did I not consider that. Thank you for the highly intellectual rebuttal. I am going to call Ashton Kutcher and get you a mensa application.
moomoomilktank t1_je9p0qn wrote
It would only be poor people affected by what your talking about anyway. They only people who can afford to live in the city anymore need to be able to pay 700+ a month with roommates to even exist, so anyone who makes less is pushed out of the city, where access to public transportation is terrible. So yeah its a fucking awful idea. Rich people will hire driving tutors for their kids
Swrdmn t1_je58s0c wrote
Stoney as Mayor.
JosefDerArbeiter t1_je5ze4u wrote
There's one like this at Sheppard & Ellwood and also the nicer one on Park Dr. which connects Dogwood Dell parking lot to the VITA trail.
They're awkward to use because of two lane traffic (Ellwood one way and Park Dr. two way). You'll get one courteous driver in lane A who looks to be gradually slowing down to yield to you and then lane B driver appears to be going full speed and may/may not slam on their brakes. What walker wants to trust that both parties will come to a complete stop. Awkward for both drivers and walkers.
Zayzay8008 t1_je53apm wrote
The left turn only sign on E Leigh and N 10th Street
ShutterHawk t1_je5d3bi wrote
Look at what they did to my boy!
IronGiants1973 t1_je621a9 wrote
Even when you know you have the right of way to cross the street, it’s like taking your life in your hands trying to get across main street between Belvedere and Thompson. Maybe they need to paint the crosswalks in that alternating white / asphalt pattern. What about solar powered flashing signs. I’ve seen those before. Curb bump outs would be great too. In my experience drivers are far less shitty in RVA than other densely populated cities like NY, DC, Philly or Boston.
Rs90 t1_je6jchq wrote
Yeah I never rely on these for people to stop. It inevitably ends with someone in a car stopping, me shaking my head "nope", them shrugging "wtf", then driving off with people behind em pissed. I just wait til it's clear. Been doin it 32yrs and seems to work fine.
Fratghanistan t1_je6nfto wrote
Honestly my main issue with it is there is two lanes. Often if I start walking in front of that car, cars in the other lane cannot see me and I have difficult seeing them. I’d just rather cars go and I find an opening myself.
Rs90 t1_je6t8cd wrote
Which is precisely why I don't cross. Predictable traffic is safe traffic. And I predict not everyone will stop. So I play it safe lol.
Jman50k t1_je687vw wrote
To be fair it does accurately foretells the fate of most Richmond pedestrians.
thottsville t1_je6fny8 wrote
I feel kinda bad, I ran over one while chamging lanes at an odd place today. In my defense it was pummeled into a vague flattened soda cup shape from my perspective
ArgoCS t1_je6zddt wrote
Meh, I agree they aren’t all that useful in enacting change but it’s honestly a drop in the bucket of the budget to put them up and if it even gets a few people to change their behavior I’ll chalk it up as a W.
Let’s be honest the real solutions are bump outs, raised walk ways and to turn some of these 2 lane roads into a one lane road and a protected bike lane. Driving needs to be less convenient full stop.
I really hope we get there eventually but something tells me that some of the people clowning on these for being ineffective would raise an absolute hissy fit if we really start trying to change the roads.
camerachey t1_je9f835 wrote
I always stop for people at these but sometimes I think stopping is creating a bigger problem. I stop so they think it's safe to go but then cars coming the other direction don't stop and just speed through. I've seen so many people almost get hit.
tigranes5 t1_je5ajhc wrote
I've seen people actually hit the gas and speed up when they see them on Robinson St.
throwingutah t1_je5p5e7 wrote
They should install every third one with a concrete bollard. Surprise!
csteven71 t1_je5d8xe wrote
The Henrico bollard traffic circles are competing for this title.
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je5eguv wrote
Those are more distracting than helpful.
csteven71 t1_je5fd09 wrote
I just feel drawn to them when I’m passing through.
BureauOfBureaucrats t1_je5fxu6 wrote
I first encountered one on Charles St near Horsepen. I initially thought someone just randomly threw a bunch of cones in the middle of the road.
csteven71 t1_je5g1ij wrote
Hahah. Those are the ones I’m thinking of. They make me laugh.
djeeetyet t1_je5fyhq wrote
how about cameras, should hopefully cut down on those failing to yield, not to mention they would pay for themselves
Dog_Dad_1989 OP t1_je5g9q1 wrote
Absolutely need some kind of enforcement to change behavior
momthom427 t1_je5ixcl wrote
Yes, the ones on Robinson.
skully_27 t1_je60qxt wrote
What's weird is we had them in NH for decades and I don't remember them ever getting run over nearly as often as the ones down here 😂
Pandaut t1_je6e0tr wrote
This specific one was flat within 48hrs of installation
smothers-brother t1_je6rdxo wrote
A screen door on a submarine.
NannyW00t t1_je7joz6 wrote
The ones on Brooklyn Park Blvd?
BJfarmer t1_jeasdy6 wrote
The one thing I have noticed is there are not yellow signs indicated crosswalks. In other urban areas you have crosswalk indicators with flashing yellow lights that are elevated for drivers to see. We just have a 2 white lines and pedestrians between 2 illegally parked cars as indication of someone crossing.
nilsrva t1_je5f3ha wrote
Painted bike lines
Cunbundle t1_je5j0o8 wrote
Has anyone seen them being installed? It seems really unsafe for a worker to be crouched down in the middle of the road bolting down a sign. Do they use shadow vehicles and stop traffic while they do it? I'm genuinely curious. In my line of work we have intense rules we have to follow to work in the road.
fusion260 t1_je6v25u wrote
Yes, they usually put their vehicle with flashing lights, cones, or flares up behind them as a buffer between them and the sign or whatever it is they're working on.
GLYCENIDE t1_je5vr6e wrote
A lawsuit might be effective for the driver who takes out pedestrian because they didn’t see the clearly visible sign.
Previous-Expert-378 t1_je6l88c wrote
The plastic poles as you get off the I-95 ramp into Shockoe Bottom. They are there to keep people from making an immediate right but enough are knocked down now they are just hazards in the road.
bighotfart t1_je6nn4r wrote
The police department
PuffyMcScrote t1_je6qk0a wrote
Posts about them? Kidding, OP. For real, pedestrians aren't taking their lives into their hands like in Kolkata, but it ain't far off in the Fan, nowadays.
Complex_Pangolin5822 t1_je6zyem wrote
The local government who put them there.
m0grady t1_je71901 wrote
About as useless as the No chicken bone signs in parks.
ssred18 t1_je7296v wrote
Mayor Stoner
PeppyMinotaur t1_je7ixx0 wrote
I cross every street as if the cars are going to try to murder me even if there’s a cross walk
BudyWolfe t1_je89pa2 wrote
They removed them from West Marshall shortly after they put them up for the same reason. And they are repaving it again after only 2 years for some reason?
meanwhileinrice t1_je8gdqh wrote
Sorry, I swerved to avoid hitting a pedestrian.
AndrewTheGovtDrone t1_je9s8hm wrote
##You rang?
LoafRVA t1_jeapfnk wrote
Or maybe get them out of the middle of the road? I like the pedestrian crossing lights…but we had plenty of red paint for that disastrous bus line. Why not get a bunch of yellow paint?
WontArnett t1_je5rkwm wrote
Having a “conversation” with my ex-wife about her feelings.
benjamminson t1_je5s2yy wrote
Yea Its actually a lot more dangerous and causes accidents
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smarshall561 t1_je5zf7m wrote
One thing it does is it stops drivers from getting enraged at pedestrians because it's kind of hard to justify your rage when there's a sign between the two of you stating what the law is.
Gorz0th t1_je66mds wrote
Just the government that thought they were a good idea.
Successful-Engine623 t1_je7o64o wrote
Should put up concrete Ballard instead
ElectricalStable278 t1_je81itv wrote
They should put the signs on steel rods. I'd like to to see some one try to run over that.
StellarSomething t1_je5odj4 wrote
I'd put a nail strip around that sign next time
maddmoxxiie t1_je61fco wrote
Hostile pedestrianism 🤷🏻♀️
Squabbles1234 t1_je5yw2i wrote
Well, they are pretty effective at making people feel like they can just walk right out in front of moving traffic....every day I gotta nearly stop at a green light because some asshole is walking on a don't walk sign and doesn't give two fucks.
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DamILuvFrogs t1_je6kv1e wrote
I hit a lot of them in my Jeep on the first batch they put out because I thought it was hilarious
this-ok t1_je6o76l wrote
As a public service worker, I can confirm that having to repair needless destruction is the absolute height of comedy.
Your asinine bullshit is the antithesis of community building. This isn’t your city, it’s OUR city. Quit fucking it up.
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rva-ModTeam t1_je6ssd2 wrote
We get it, all right? Between that and your original comment above, you're very close to being shown the door here in r/rva
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rva-ModTeam t1_je74753 wrote
Can’t say you weren’t warned.
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Interesting-Field-45 t1_je4wry8 wrote
Even painting/filling in the entire pedestrian walk would help.