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Riptide360 t1_j71esis wrote

The humiliation of Musk continues.

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reddlvr t1_j72a15y wrote

Musk being unveiled as the big bag of fluff he always was and we couldn't see.

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TheMichaelN t1_j72lug0 wrote

It’ll be interesting to see how this impacts social listening and publishing tools from companies like Sprout, Meltwater, etc., if at all.

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Amaya-hime t1_j72onzo wrote

Replying to TheMichaelN (#1,713,883)

I'm not seeing tweets linked to Reddit anymore. I have to actually click the dang link to see what it is. I've always avoided Twitter as I felt I didn't need just one more social media site. I probably spend too much time on the ones I've got accounts on already.

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ngwoo t1_j72w1wj wrote

Twitter must be in a really precarious spot if they're monetizing this

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Due-Resident-4588 t1_j73ge5u wrote

Everyone hating on Elon musk will never come close to the level of success he’s had in life. Instead of hating from the couch maybe they should be working more.

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SwampTerror t1_j73ih6n wrote

Replying to Senyu (#1,715,571)

Man Elon worked hard being the son of an apartheid Africa emerald mine owner. That hard work as all that slave money rolled in. He really had to break his back like the every man. He probably had to use an outhouse. Nary a servant in sight!

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CrotchetAndVomit t1_j73llwo wrote

Replying to thatVisitingHasher (#1,715,327)

That's the thing though. They didn't before this. But he leveraged everything he could do hard that his creditors are likely forcing the hand. Before Elon Twitter was a Venture Capital black hole. That's not the case anymore. This new emperor has no clothes and the banks and oligarchs want their cut of the palace next.

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CrotchetAndVomit t1_j73m4bo wrote

Replying to Due-Resident-4588 (#1,715,510)

His "success" got a huge bump before he was even out of diapers. All else being equal, I feel like I have a far more fulfilling and joy filled life than he does. That has a value on its own. I don't need to be a billionaire to be successful. I'm comfortable financially, have relationships that actually matter, and I don't need to be a replyguy on the internet for clout. That I do because it's fun.

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CrotchetAndVomit t1_j73ne54 wrote

Replying to thatVisitingHasher (#1,715,850)

Yes. I know. Like I said, VC Black hole. My point was that with the shit Elon is pulling there, HIS investors are calling in their bets. That wasn't an issue for Twitter pre Musk. Twitter had made a business running at a loss and growing for well over a decade. Elon messed that all up because people hurt his feelings on the internet

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thatVisitingHasher t1_j73o59g wrote

Replying to CrotchetAndVomit (#1,715,867)

Does he have investors right now? He turned it into a private company. Everyone got paid out when he bought the company. I think he’s using his own bank account to fund the business. There are no investors to chase away.

We should probably look at these tech companies that are growing with a negative balance sheet. That shouldn’t happen.

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CrotchetAndVomit t1_j73q7jy wrote

Replying to thatVisitingHasher (#1,715,904)

Oh course he has investors. While he is the majority stake holder he didn't buy Twitter with his pocket change. He has loans from several banks and a hand full of Saudis at a minimum. All of which likely have SUBSTANTIAL interest rates given that it's a loan for acquisition of a loss leading company

(Source from Routers with some incomplete numbers: https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/who-is-financing-elon-musks-44-billion-deal-buy-twitter-2022-10-07/ )

He offered severance yes but that's not the point and irrelevant to this conversation

him using his own persona accounts to finance his shit show at this point that's on him and because he fucked up by coming in way too hot and torching any good will he might have had from outside investment. You can track how he typically finances day to day operations by looking at any of his other companies. They are all run similarly at the macro level.

Plenty of tech companies run at a loss and grow for substantial periods of time. It's not in and of itself a cancerous place to be as a company when your product will take time to get to a place where it is marketable. Those companies often being an IP to a functional state and then sell it or are absorbed into other much larger companies like Google/Facebook/Amazon. So much so that it's become a trope on TV with shows like Silicon Valley.

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mysticalfruit t1_j73ugwx wrote

This is his approach to the flight tracking thing.. he can't stop them, but he can make it so expensive the guy can't do it anymore.

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Infamous_Yogurt2858 t1_j73y7vg wrote

Replying to ngwoo (#1,714,417)

It would require a miracle for that not to be the case. Musk spent a pile on the purchase and his entire vision for the platform was essentially rolling back everything Twitter did to make themselves amenable to major sponsors.

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Rombledore t1_j743f1o wrote

musk, and by extension his simps, failed to realize that WE are not his customers. advertisers were. we were the product. that's why we used it for free.

since he alienated his advertisers, he has no use but to make us his customers. and no one wants to pay for that for that shit.

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Yokhen t1_j7447oz wrote

like tumblr so will twitter fall.

It's being so much fun watching it all happen.

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enigmamonkey t1_j74d0mq wrote

This kind of has us scrambling a bit, actually. Not because we'd have to pay per se, but rather we've been using their API for so long on our website (and def still on v1.1) that now when we check the developer site it just funnels to a "Sign up" and no longer shows us our existing/old apps, so we cannot find/figure out which account was linked to our production credentials (and that's really on us for not staying on top of which account that was).

But even if we login to the account that holds our test API credentials (maintained entirely separately for security reasons), it doesn't show our app at all, which is annoying AF. Add to all that, when we try to login to one of our accounts to see if that is the one linked to our credentials, it forces 2FA via email which normally would be fine, but: Their emails aren't even working.

Twitter feels so broken right now and barely over a week's notice is a huge PITA when our dev team is already pretty slammed as it is.

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TheJizzle t1_j74i37f wrote

One of those bot authors invited users to interact with the bot on Mastodon. I wonder if there will be any sufficient uptick in that user base as a result of this change.

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unresolved_m t1_j74lvvj wrote

Replying to enigmamonkey (#1,717,060)

I got hacked recently with both of my password and email changed. Every time I post about it a ton of scummy accounts pop up and scream "so and so could help you restore it!"

I sincerely hope Elon's own account will get hacked sooner or later. That will be some sweet revenge.

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unresolved_m t1_j74oi88 wrote

Replying to satansxlittlexhelper (#1,717,636)

I mean crash as in "blue fail whale" appearing all the time. When company was bigger that used to happen often and now that cut down stuff I expected Twitter to get even worse in terms of crashes. It didn't, although that's not meant to say it got better either.

Had my account hacked into the other week. Still waiting for Twitter Support to provide some help.

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satansxlittlexhelper t1_j74p4lh wrote

Replying to unresolved_m (#1,717,681)

Thanks, great response. I’d assume that’s because cutting the headcount to such an extreme degree means the remaining devs are doing a lot of brass-polishing, and Elon is hearing a lot of “Sorry, sir, no one here knows how that works, so we’re afraid to touch it”.

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kerkyjerky t1_j74wtmp wrote

Replying to Real-Problem6805 (#1,717,820)

I mean do you really need a plan to actually make a difference in someone’s life? Feels like an easy escape if you ask me. It really doesn’t have to be a one size fits all approach, just give starving people food, the details can be worked out later. If you have ever been starved or genuinely malnourished, you would know that nothing else matters.

Again, if he genuinely wanted to make a difference in starving peoples lives, he can do it one meal at a time, one community at a time, hell one person at a time. Because as of right now, he still has done less than my 35 dollar a month donation.

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Real-Problem6805 t1_j750hp4 wrote

Replying to kerkyjerky (#1,718,145)

Yep because a plan is sustainable. You realize that food programs in places like Africa actually cause more starvation? Because free beats locally purchased every time it drives local produce out of the market. So you have to plan how to do stuff. Otherwise your just feeding pets

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kippertie t1_j7513aa wrote

Replying to Gurglesplat (#1,715,223)

No I think it’s more insidious than that. I think he’s trying to shut down Twitter in a way that doesn’t have his investors coming after him for deliberately destroying it. If he keeps trying to monetize it more and more and it turns into a ghost town he can shrug and go “welp, I tried, guess it was already doomed guys, sorry and all that.

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TehSakaarson t1_j7544le wrote

Replying to kerkyjerky (#1,718,145)

You are trolling right? The administrative and logistical work for checks notes feeding all starving people on Earth would be a fucking nightmare. Shit doesn’t just teleport to people, FYI.

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JaydenPope t1_j75esgg wrote

Who's like to pay for access ? 1-2% of the userbase... maybe ?

cutting off people from free access also cuts off those that may potentially pay. I'd only pay if I see a value but locking everything behind a paywall doesn't push me to spend money.

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Raichuboy17 t1_j75htvk wrote

Replying to thingandstuff (#1,717,526)

I... didn't say it gives you API access? It allows you to get around having to use an API and does web automation on dedicated hardware. Clunky, but it would work. Pretty sure there's a more simple and cheap solution out there, but that was the first solution that came to mind.

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pwalkz t1_j75ron9 wrote

Replying to grumpyfrench (#1,719,601)

Thats what he fired all those employees for! No joke! That reduction in overhead covers his billion per year in interest. Which I can't really fault him for. Seems like a smart move if you got that sort of interest to pay off.

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rafaelfootball63 t1_j75wbxs wrote

Replying to Raichuboy17 (#1,719,226)

I don't see how a raspberry pi helps the goal at all, can you elaborate? I'm thinking if you were to try to do a ghetto API you could use Puppeteer or an equivalent which could run on an pi I guess, but also basically any computer. I would just run Puppeteer on whatever hardware you are using for the rest of your app, be it your PC, AWS...

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OriginalCompetitive t1_j76jgcq wrote

Replying to BlameThePeacock (#1,719,249)

Seems like that was just a temporary blip:

“New data suggests that the effect was temporary, with Twitter having managed to grow its advertiser roster to 3,700 in the fourth quarter of 2022 from 3,000 in the third quarter, according to an ad intelligence firm’s report released Wednesday.

Twitter averaged 3,330 U.S. advertisers per month on average in the first quarter; 3,740 in the second; 3,000 in the third; and 3,700 in the last three months of the year.“

It’s hard to know for sure, of course.

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thingandstuff t1_j76qssp wrote

Replying to Raichuboy17 (#1,719,226)

You’re basically talking about rolling your own client side API that just impersonates browser interaction, even if it’s something out of the box, and said that was an “easy” replacement for a documented server side API. And the raspberry pi is completely irrelevant — as it’s just a place to do the compute.

This idea doesn’t make you seem knowledgeable on the subject.

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Raichuboy17 t1_j77g9qa wrote

Replying to thingandstuff (#1,721,315)

You can literally program that with Python in an hour or two. There's lots of tutorials out there for it. The goal was to get around paying for Twitter's API. You're right, I'm not a professional programmer, or even knowledgeable, but I have done this before for another project which is why I mentioned it.

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