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OP t1_j281i7w wrote

Mathilde was only 18 when she died and was going to marry the King of Italy, Umberto I. Instead, Umberto found himself a less-immolated bride, and their son grew up to be King Victor Emmanuel III, the spineless and ineffectual monarch who installed Mussolini as dictator.

TLDR: If vaping was around in the 1860s, it might have prevented the rise of fascism.

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t1_j28283t wrote

A less immolated bride....lolololololololololololol

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t1_j284fkh wrote

I dont know, man. Mathilde was hot

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t1_j284p32 wrote

Lit, some might say.

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t1_j2amxi2 wrote

"I like my mead cold, my operas loud, and my archduchesses fa-LAMING!" - Archduke Homer Simpson

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t1_j299nh6 wrote

>If vaping was around in the 1860s, it might have prevented the rise of fascism.

You jest but Hitler was a huge anti-smoking supporter.One of the less known campaign of his was probably the most effective anti-tobacco campaign in Europe in the 1930'' in a time where everyone was addicted to it.

Also noted Germans invented Heroin as a coughing syrup :))

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t1_j2a429y wrote

It wasn't effective at all, in fact the numbers of smokers went up while the Nazis were in power. Germany did lead the world in anti-tobacco use campaigns as well as research of the negative effects tobacco had on health, but that began well before the Nazis took power.

While the anti-smoking campaign in Nazi Germany was highly touted, anti-smoking laws were routinely ignored, poorly enforced, and pretty much useless. Their effectiveness was marginal at best, and after 1940, was heavily restricted by the government.

The Nazi Party actually made a huge amount of money from tobacco sales, and controlled the market. You might find this interesting. Sturm Cigarette Company

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t1_j2agbrx wrote

It's said that when Hitler shot himself, tons of people in the bunker lit up cigarettes.

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t1_j2821nv wrote

A major drawback to literally being laced into your clothes and then secured by 47 buttons

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t1_j2ctr7a wrote

You mean "a major drawback of wearing clothes that are literally impossible to dress yourself in because you need to stunt on the working class at every possible opportunity"?

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t1_j29fid1 wrote

My grandfather was hiding a lit cigarette from his father (by putting it in his pocket), but his father had already seen it. So his father kept the conversation going while my grandfather is getting more agitated because of his smoldering pocket...

Now that I'm older and have three boys myself, it would be interesting to talk to my great-grandfather to see what other hijinks my grandfather got himself into.

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t1_j29x869 wrote

I've worked on building sites where it was seen as a laugh to drop a lit cigarette butt in the back pocket of someone's overalls. It wouldn't catch light but it would smoulder until they noticed, which could be when there was a 6 inch hole in them, if they were working outside.

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t1_j2abk30 wrote

Some years back, when my sister and her friend were chilling in our back yard, my dad caught them with a pack of cigarette. I think my sister and her friend were around 14 yrs old at the time. When my dad questioned them, the friend said the cigarettes didn’t belong to them, it belonged to her brother, Iz. When he asked, well then why wasn’t the cigarettes with Iz, she responded, “Because Iz doesn’t have pockets in his pants.”

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t1_j28k9aa wrote

This was quite common in the Victorian era as the dresses were normally cleaned with kerosene and there were live flames everywhere. (Ballerinas it seems were particularly at risk due to wearing Tulle in the vicinity of stage lights and it's reckoned hundreds were burnt to death, sometimes spreading the fire to other ballerinas trying to help or even taking the whole theatre with them.)

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t1_j28rsrm wrote

Yo that dance was 🔥

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t1_j28spxf wrote

Indeed.

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's wife died after her dress caught light and he was so badly burned in the attempt to put it out, that he couldn't make the funeral. (His trademark beard was grown to cover the scarring.)

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t1_j2a4779 wrote

Fooking KEROSENE? The hell?

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t1_j2a6llp wrote

Dry cleaning is basically just dunking your clothes in gasoline derivatives. Turns out petrol is a ridiculously good solvent

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t1_j2aaxdb wrote

>Dry cleaning is basically just dunking your clothes in gasoline derivatives

That's new to me!

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t1_j2cbnbd wrote

The lesser known chemical Industrial Revolution created numerous hazards to everyday life, just like the mechanical Industrial Revolution did. Instead of getting your hand caught off in an industrial loom you’d die because your clothes were washed in kerosene and the electric grid still doesn’t exist or still sucks so everything is lit by flame.

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t1_j295t7i wrote

I mean yeah, in cases like that a discerning lady is better advised to chew and spit her baccy rather than light up

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t1_j2826go wrote

TIL - what the word immolate meant... Mostly assuming burning from the title.

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t1_j28xig4 wrote

note: immolate, like the word electrocute, is often misused. When applied to a person or animal, it always means they died as a direct result of the event. Catching on fire is not immolation, immolation is when said fire kills you. Same deal with electrocution

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t1_j29imdu wrote

No, that's outright false. Literally the very first definition off of google:

> electrocute: injure or kill someone by electric shock

Words can have a different meaning than their constituent parts.

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t1_j29ivv9 wrote

How do you call an electrocution that does not result in death?

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t1_j29jqy7 wrote

An electrocution. The person you replied to was incorrect.

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t1_j29ws4d wrote

if it's not deadly, it's called electric shock.

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t1_j2a2olv wrote

It can be, but is not always. From Merriam-Webster Dictionary: electrocute, verb, to kill or severely injure by electric shock.

I understand that the origins of the word come from execute, and that its original meaning was always to kill with electricity, but that is no longer the case. Just as how decimate used to mean killing 10% but now has further meaning, so does electrocution.

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t1_j2811x5 wrote

Hm. Stop, drop and roll wasn't a thing then, I guess

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t1_j28bwu6 wrote

"That dress is fire girl."

"Aw you're sweet, this old thing?"

"Yeah no, you're literally engulfed in flames right now."

"Staahp you're making me blush."

"I don't think that's blush, you're burning to death right here in this very moment."

"Well aren't you the charmer, maybe buy me a drink."

"Lady, I'd buy you an entire goddamn fire hydrant full of water, you are on fucking fire!"

"You're making me so hot, stranger."

"Yeah I think they actually turned the heat on a minute ago or at least cut off the air cond--ope, no, she's dead."

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t1_j28york wrote

Venusian sickness dire

I want to be set on fire

Venusian, gather while I

Venusian-ly catch on fire

Auto-cremate

SELF IMMOLATE

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t1_j2897q7 wrote

What did you expect? We all know that smoking kills!

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t1_j28mh6z wrote

I can recommend the podcast episode Killer Fashion on The Rest is History.

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t1_j29i5iq wrote

I guess you could say the victim was

Smoking

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t1_j2ajsmi wrote

Smoking is dangerous for your health, but fire is worse

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t1_j2b7ugv wrote

The extreme version of “oh look if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions”

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t1_j2cnely wrote

Cigarettes at that time were not a high society commodity. They were pretty much used by people that couldn’t afford to smoke entire cigars throughout the day, or didn’t have a pipe. Very working class.

Snuff would have been a more socially acceptable tobacco product. I wonder who she got the cigarettes from. Maybe a maid, grounds keeper?

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t1_j29k9i8 wrote

Hapsburgs were fairly inbred by then, I guess

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t1_j29o2uy wrote

A Mockingjay, she is not.

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t1_j28tspy wrote

This finally proves that smoking is bad for your health.

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t1_j290d5m wrote

She was smoking hot!!

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t1_j29wo8j wrote

History sure went hard here to cover-up a suicide.

Edit: Reading below that dresses were cleaned with kerosene. Maybe it truly was a freak accident.

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