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ravinglunatic t1_j5smc9b wrote

Eleanor Roosevelt was a lesbian in spite of being married to Franklin. She wrote a letter to Gypsy Rose Lee that said “May your ass always be shining.”

Amelia Earhart seems kind of gay.

I’ll bet they at least kissed.

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falconuruguay t1_j5spsqn wrote

Ah yes..."Joyride"....

Eleanor was WELL known to be bisexual, and kept a mistress (known to everyone as her "personal secretary") at Hyde Park near the end of the war, in a separate guest house on the premises, just like FDR was doing with his secretary, at another guest house there too.

She also had affairs with several men too.

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MeFolly t1_j5sqr0l wrote

I knew they were my kind of role model

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Solivagant23 t1_j5sqs3o wrote

Legend has it that they scissored the whole way.

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Our_Miss_Peach t1_j5ta1p6 wrote

Amelia was real cute, and looked like Mia Farrow

Yeah Eleanor got around, but she was just ok

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FaustusRedux t1_j5tczoa wrote

Is that what we're calling sex now? A joyride to Baltimore?

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BisonBravey t1_j5tfkeu wrote

I think either label retroactively applied is problematic. She is not here to tell us how she identified. There would have been more than one reason she might have elected to sleep with men but still identified as a lesbian. She might have been bi. She might have felt she was straight, but had some distractions. We can't know without being able to explain how we use these terms contemporarily and hear her thoughts.

But she certainly seemed to have attractions and relationships that were at the very least queer.

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Zonerdrone t1_j5tywz9 wrote

FDR was banging his secretary so who cares if she was joining the mile high club?

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ravinglunatic t1_j5u0tii wrote

Bi-erasure? Jesus. She was married to a man that she was ok that he had mistresses. FDR died with his mistress. She had sex with FDR, complained that he wanted it more than her but that doesn’t necessarily mean she was bisexual so much as a wife in first half of the 20th century.

I’m not a historian. I don’t know her pronouns, specific preferences, etc. but whatever offense you took to this is absurd because it was unintentional and doesn’t really matter anyway.

They’re just words. She seemed to like girls. Give it a rest. I’m not your enemy.

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SnooWalruses3945 t1_j5u3x4y wrote

You think the First Lady was drawing a salary in 1933? It was a commercial aircraft. I’m sure they loved the publicity of two of the most famous women in the US flying in one of those planes. However, you think that they asked the ladies to pay for the fuel, and Eleanor said, “just bill it to the government”? Keep doubling down on your statement though. Makes you look cool.

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ContinuumGuy t1_j5ukczb wrote

IIRC, the Roosevelts, while they did (at least at one point) genuinely love each other in a way, more saw their marriage as a political partnership and didn't really care who they were having sex with so long as it was kept private from the press.

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ThePhoenixBird2022 t1_j5unh7x wrote

If you can afford a plane, can get away with pretty much anything because hubby is President, and know someone who can fly, why the fuck not just take off in that direction, but maybe turn left - or right, because you can.

Hell, check out the quality of the seatbelts and do a loop while you're at it.

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HPmoni t1_j5uuhgr wrote

Eleanor was infamously unattractive, so it's weird to see Gillian Anderson play her.

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arcosapphire t1_j5uw9lk wrote

> ...the two women delighted in their adventure — a celebration of independence and friendship.

> This large-format lavishly produced picture book captures the courage and pioneering spirit of two friends who defied convention in the name of fulfillment, conviction, and fun.

Yes. Friends. r/sapphoandherfriend

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RageOfDurga t1_j5wyyvw wrote

Amelia’s plane wasn’t the only thing going down, I see.

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Kraetzi t1_j5xtw1p wrote

Old timey swing Joyride to Baltimore I cried for more Joyride to Baltimore My lower body's sore Joyride too Baltimooooooore! I never had this feeling befoooooore Flappers, Jazzhands, Featherboas, Cut

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