boulevardofdef

boulevardofdef t1_jd2vems wrote

Reply to comment by tibbon in What do you do? by Loveroffinerthings

I always feel weird about this stuff because I'm deeply sympathetic about increasing social stratification in America and how hard it's become to live a secure lifestyle with a working-class job, but I also get so frustrated by how little people understand about this stuff. I feel like I'm on the side of the assholes when I point it out, but it's true.

So many of the comments in this thread are "it's family money" or "they're up to their eyeballs in debt." I've been inside many big, fancy houses in this state and known many people who live in others. The answer has literally never been "it's family money" or "they're up to their eyeballs in debt." The answer has always been "they have jobs that pay a lot, often with a dual income." It's weird to me that people don't seem to understand that a) a lot of these jobs exist, and b) they can buy you a big-ass house. It's such a simple answer, but I guess the logic is "I don't know how to access these jobs so they must not exist"?

Just off the top of my head, here are some jobs held by people I know who live in houses I would characterize as big and fancy, all of which I've been inside:

  • Owner of software development company and attorney
  • CTO of software development company and spouse with unknown job
  • Executive at major corporation and non-working spouse
  • Executive at major corporation and financial adviser
  • Corporate attorney and editor for a national news publication
  • Two executives at a large engineering firm
  • Owner of said engineering firm
  • College basketball coach and hairstylist (cheated a little on this one, it's my wife who knows the hairstylist, and I've never been in the house but they did give us their piano. I just thought it was cool)

These people exist and there are a lot of them. That's who's living in the houses. Remember, these are just houses that I've personally been inside and it's not even all of them. Of course there are some people who watch TV all day and live off their trust funds from their robber-baron great grandfathers, but they're a small minority.

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boulevardofdef t1_jd1qob3 wrote

I'm a senior product manager for a tech company that was headquartered in Boston when I joined but is now based in DC, with all the former Boston employees fully remote. (I was hired with the understanding that I would never go into Boston more than once or twice a week.) I've got almost 25 years of experience. My wife is a civil engineer for a local company.

We bought a big fancy house a year ago because we wanted it and could afford it, plus both of us work from home most days and dedicated office space for both of us is key. Zero boats. We could maybe afford one but we'd sure be saving a whole lot less, if anything.

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boulevardofdef t1_jd1jtoh wrote

I'll never forget in the summer of 2016, only three years after I moved here, I had to drive my son up to camp in Burrillville every day for a week, and oh my God. I would estimate literally every third house had a Trump sign, and every second house had a "NO NEW POWER PLANT NORTHERN RI" sign, which made me really angry because every house with a Trump sign also had a power-plant sign, and Trump was the guy running on increasing energy production from pollutants.

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boulevardofdef t1_ja5ixrw wrote

This is easy for me: Warwick. It seems to get shit on a lot, but it's got a ton of really attractive waterfront; a surprisingly large number of excellent parks (Goddard, Rocky Point, City Park, etc.); a number of excellent residential neighborhoods (Cowesett is my favorite in the entire state, Buttonwoods Beach is amazing, Potowomut, I could go on); the best big-box retail strip in the state terminating in the state's second largest mall; half of beautiful Pawtuxet Village.

People seem to put it down because of a few dead strip malls and mediocre schools (though people also say they're moving to Cranston for the schools, which are ranked essentially the same), and nobody likes living near the airport (though it can be really convenient, including commuter rail to Boston). I've lived in four places in my 10 years in RI and three of them have been in Warwick, and that wasn't an accident.

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boulevardofdef t1_ja5fyjc wrote

This is cool but there's actually a proposed light-rail system that goes past TF Green and terminates at CCRI, so I think this should cover that base, at least. Would be nice to extend it even further to Main Street East Greenwich.

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boulevardofdef t1_j96yh9a wrote

That's a very modest commute by the standards of a lot of areas. I used to work in New York City and live in New York City, a two-minute walk from an express train, and it took me 45-60 minutes to commute eight miles to work depending on wait times and delays. Even here, I used to work in Cumberland and most people came from the Boston suburbs and had commutes of about an hour.

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boulevardofdef t1_j8pv3xv wrote

Wasn't the proposal that got canned a different location than the one that got approved? The failed one was Mulligan's Island, the new one is the old Citizens Bank offices, I think.

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