Also thought female vocals can sometimes lack a sense of body and weight, making it a little ethereal and didn't quite stand out enough from the treble instruments. I just added a ~+3db @ 200hz. Can't quite remember the Q value though, but it was fairly narrow IIRC. It was quite subtle but thought that it helped with female vocals without affecting the overall sound signature too much, though it does make the bass sound a little more boomy/less tight.

EDIT: just opened up Peace APO for first time in I do'nt know how long and found the EQ settings. I last had it at 5db at 223hz with Q=2.6.

Pads on my LCD-X also compressed unevenly. And my DT770. Don't know if it's something with the pads or a consequence of fit/how I'm wearing them.

Normally I'd recommend rotating them but that's not an easy job on Audeze due to it being glued.

These graphic EQs are not that precise. If you put these in yourself, it's probably not as close to the target as you think.

That said, I just don't like the Harman tuning. Too bassy, too shouty, and oddly dark sounding.

I don't get the 3 blob staging off the 660s, but still similarly small. Got the 3 blob on the 600 and 58x though.

OG Clears have similar overall presentation in that it's mid-forward and small stage, but imo quite different otherwise. It's much more intense in character and doesn't have much of that smooth and pleasant timbre of the 6x0's.

Clears have more wow factor with its punchiness and detail, but also was less forgiving and more fatiguing.

He's also using them, pushing electricity through. From what I understand, voice coils will inevitably convert some of that energy to heat (not to mention mechanical energy), though correct me if I'm wrong.

Just thinking aloud: how does heat affect the drivers and coils? Doesn't heat affect conductivity of wires and malleability of drivers?

*cries in Focal*

But they are related to loudness at different frequencies, though. Even how we perceive transient response is related to loudness at certain frequencies, which is why things like impulse response aren't so useful.

Frequency response is basically the only measurements that I can... hear. THD, CSD, impulse response, etc., doesn't always correlate to what I hear out of headphones. Not to say that's not useful, but seems less reliable in terms of predicting what something sounds like.

>simplifying it to "loudness at different frequencies" is not quite right.

Is there something else it's showing that I'm not aware of? X-axis shows frequencies and Y-axis shows decibels. "Loudness at different frequencies" seems like exactly what the graph is showing.

good lord, there's a subreddit called headphonewaifus 😨

As a recovering weeb, I lowkey support this post.

What he says. DT1990s are great fun with impressive technicalities, but punishing on poor recordings/source gear. HD600s are smoother, more pleasant, and all around easier listen, but doesn't stage as well and doesn't have quite the bass/treble extension. It's not as exciting as the 1990s, though HD600s might be preferred for a more intimate experience.

But the market will cater to the average consumer, not the people here. So prepare yourselves...

Looks like those rough waves would generate a noticeable noise floor, ruining the dynamic range. /s

>it sounded so hollow like the character was speaking into an empty pringles can, and footsteps sounded like corrupted sound files

Yup, that's the 770s. Quite good at revealing crunchy footstep noises, with decent imaging to boot.

Try listening to some music with it next time. Quite exciting and dynamic imo.

More importantly, where are these doctors that charge $35 for people without insurance? That's less than most copays these days.

I'm in too deep...

I just realized a visit to the doctor here in the US without insurance will cost you an HD600.

>adds a little weight to music, which I like.

stop tempting me, please for the love of god and solvency.

I had same experience with Sundaras, coming from DT770s and HD58x. I just didn't enjoy it due to poor dynamics imo. It had a nice sense of clarity, good separation, fast and clean transients, etc., but my booty remained unshaken. Everything felt just... detached, discombobulated, lifeless.

Got the DT1990s after which I loved. But be warned, those are punishing headphones on wrong tracks and upstream gear.

EDIT: Also didn't think the cups were very comfortable. Couldn't find a way to fit them that didn't lead to my ears feeling sore after a couple of hours.

FWIW, I thought the HE6seV2 was basically a better Sundaras. Very much reminded me of the Sundaras with the addition of much better dynamics. However, those are ridiculously hard to drive, and my Singxer SA-1 could not keep up with even modest -3db preamp engaged. After a certain point, increasing volume on the SA-1 led to HE6seV2 to simply lose bass without getting louder (at least, as I perceived it). Strangest thing I've experienced.

People have different tastes. I've actually never had the 560s, but it's been described as analytical. Partly why I haven't had much interest in picking one up. The Sony XM3's/4's are... not analytical. I'd also suggest to pay attention to what is driving the 560s. The Sonys are handling everything from digital to analog conversion and amplification. 560s are not, so what you're plugging it into is probably playing a part in what you're hearing.

If you want a lot of bass on open backs, the DT1990's were my favorite open back bass-canons.

That said, if you have time before the return window closes, I'd suggest using the 560s exclusively for a couple of weeks to get acclimated to the sound and listen to a variety of different music. I always find I notice new things even weeks after owning something and daily driving it.

Had the original L30 (after they addressed the explodiness) and didn't really see it as a powerful amp. Didn't think the Asgard 3 was either, but no worse.

You sure you're not confusing their sound signature? Going from memory, Asgard is warm, a little soft in the transients, doesn't have much subbass, slightly rolled off treble, slightly emphasized upper-mids, narrower but deeper soundstage. L30 was more neutral, had a slight mid-bass hump, and while the treble was present, I remember thinking something about it felt lacking. Maybe they changed something with the L30 II.

I wouldn't say one is clearly better than the other but I preferred the Asgard 3. L30 felt a bit lifeless whereas I thought the Asgard 3 did a better job of conveying dynamics with more nuance. Better staging too imo.

Then again, I didn't love the X2HR either. To each their own =).

After a certain point, I started referring to to soundstage size, imaging, separation, and layering all under the umbrella term "staging." Big soundstage is not always good, and small soundstage is not always bad. It's how all these things come together that makes it enjoyable for me.

Unfortunately the HD600s are kind of hard to drive. They'd likely benefit from a more powerful source.

HD58x and HD660s are much easier to drive in my experience. Same "family" in terms of that smooth sounding, vocal focused character, but less upper mids, generally speaking.