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Gari_305 OP t1_j8hvwor wrote

From the Article

>In a recent study, a German-Georgian team of researchers proposed that advanced extraterrestrial civilizations (ETCs) could use black holes as quantum computers.

Also from the article

>The research was conducted by Gia Dvali, a theoretical physicist with the Max Planck Institute for Physics and the physics chair at Ludwig-Maximilians-University in Munich, and Zaza Osmanov, a professor of physics at the Free University of Tbilisi, and a researcher with the Kharadze Georgian National Astrophysical Observatory and the SETI Institute.
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>The paper that describes their findings recently appeared online and is being reviewed for publication in the International Journal of Astrobiology.

Lastly from the article

>The research was conducted by Gia Dvali, a theoretical physicist with the Max Planck Institute for Physics and the physics chair at Ludwig-Maximilians-University in Munich, and Zaza Osmanov, a professor of physics at the Free University of Tbilisi, and a researcher with the Kharadze Georgian National Astrophysical Observatory and the SETI Institute.
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>The paper that describes their findings recently appeared online and is being reviewed for publication in the International Journal of Astrobiology.

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Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_j8hwhgz wrote

Article:

>Hypothetical advanced life that we have zero evidence exists might hypothetically do this

Headline:

>Aliens might do this!

It's just a clickbait headline

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Jaded_Prompt_15 t1_j8hy1jd wrote

Replying to Gari_305 (#1,806,743)

The study says black holes could hypothetically be used like this.

The headline implies aliens exist and might be doing this.

Which is why the headline is clickbait.

>why do a click bait with an attached study?

So people click it...

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Gari_305 OP t1_j8hyi2c wrote

Replying to Jaded_Prompt_15 (#1,806,768)

Actual headline in thestudy attached

>Black holes as tools for quantum computing by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations

Actual headline

> Aliens May Be Using Black Holes as Quantum Computers

They're both one in the same, not so much click baity there

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FuturologyBot t1_j8hzwvi wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/Gari_305:

From the Article

>In a recent study, a German-Georgian team of researchers proposed that advanced extraterrestrial civilizations (ETCs) could use black holes as quantum computers.

Also from the article

>The research was conducted by Gia Dvali, a theoretical physicist with the Max Planck Institute for Physics and the physics chair at Ludwig-Maximilians-University in Munich, and Zaza Osmanov, a professor of physics at the Free University of Tbilisi, and a researcher with the Kharadze Georgian National Astrophysical Observatory and the SETI Institute.
>
>The paper that describes their findings recently appeared online and is being reviewed for publication in the International Journal of Astrobiology.

Lastly from the article

>The research was conducted by Gia Dvali, a theoretical physicist with the Max Planck Institute for Physics and the physics chair at Ludwig-Maximilians-University in Munich, and Zaza Osmanov, a professor of physics at the Free University of Tbilisi, and a researcher with the Kharadze Georgian National Astrophysical Observatory and the SETI Institute.
>
>The paper that describes their findings recently appeared online and is being reviewed for publication in the International Journal of Astrobiology.

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Z3r0sama2017 t1_j8i1snr wrote

I'm sorry "scientists" but your not going to be allowed to mess about trying to create microsingularities to test this "theory". The risk of solar system get nommed is to great to risk. Do something less risky.

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HarlanCulpepper t1_j8i2r4n wrote

They 'might' be using them as an inter-dimensional slip and slide.

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mi2h_N0t-r34l_ t1_j8ia4rg wrote

Replying to Gari_305 (#1,806,743)

That would never make a difference to me.

Seems reminiscent of the "threads of fate" from "Wanted" (the movie where they curve bullets).

I am hesitant, however, to call the notion outright ridiculous...

My personal take on the theoretical utility of black holes? Blast 'em - find a means of destroying or destabilizing them - there's probably gold in them there black holes...

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Lazaruzo t1_j8iacxl wrote

Can’t even prove aliens exist but we’re theorizing about their computing processes?!! Goddamn! This belongs in /r/jokes

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TrekForce t1_j8icqsb wrote

Replying to Jaded_Prompt_15 (#1,806,991)

I don’t think either of them imply aliens definitely exist. I think both are basically saying “If aliens exist, they could use black holes as quantum computers”.

One sounds sciency and the other sounds more standard English.

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Ambrosed t1_j8id6hv wrote

Why bother with aliens? How about we use black holes for this purpose? Let’s be the advanced civilization that makes it happen.

Bonus points for not getting our solar system crushed into a singularity.

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lrrc49 t1_j8ifhwb wrote

sometimes I think physicists are just science fiction writing wannabes.

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Farklurth t1_j8ig1dd wrote

A hypothetical fire eating refrigerator might sing in a Kvarkopillian language when it's drank AF at Guelperaptul's pub.

HyPothEticaLly speaking ;/

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Albertsongman t1_j8ijdcr wrote

Interesting. … Black holes are a bevy of information. Makes sense.

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Bloorajah t1_j8ilahp wrote

Replying to Ambrosed (#1,807,822)

Saying “advanced aliens could do this” is basically just a science “gotcha” headline to get people to publicize their article about how we could eventually do this.

if you wrote a paper that said that humans could do this in the future it would be just as accurate but probably wouldn’t show up in a social feed.

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magicMikeeee95 t1_j8j0xha wrote

Turtles also might be assembling handguns in a hollow island near the Equator, but I didn't write an article about it for some reason

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ConeyIslandMan t1_j8j0zhe wrote

Balderdash everyone knows they ride pickled herring vast distances across the cosmos in the blink of an eye to avoid spoilage

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zushiba t1_j8j1fbd wrote

Aliens also hypothetically use ice planets as giant freezers. They'll just throw a bunch of food onto the surface and let it freeze there until they need it later.

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outragedUSAcitizen t1_j8j2skt wrote

Tell me what the objects were in the sky that we shot down before you get to this...

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Ub3rGoob3r t1_j8j49ik wrote

Imagine being paid a physicist's salary to come up with this shit.

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choir_of_sirens t1_j8j8pgm wrote

Maybe life is common in the universe but intelligent life (as we define it) is rare, just like here on earth.

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whiteajah365 t1_j8j9jdo wrote

We just need to ask the aliens who were downed in Northern Canada and Lake Huron and ask them how they do it.

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DeepSpaceNebulae t1_j8jcv9b wrote

Replying to Lazaruzo (#1,807,621)

It’s just theorizing about what would something we could detect were it out there. Coming up with something that would be theoretically possible and how we’d be able to detect it were it out there

Gotta theorize about one to detect the other… and gotta get clicks with outrageous titles

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clearcontroller t1_j8jf9f2 wrote

I think common sense would indicate this is clickbait.

We are significantly behind the point of anything like this being perceivable by us

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IronSasquatch t1_j8jfi7f wrote

Glad to see I wasn’t the only one to see this post and immediately think “well that’s fucking stupid”.

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OakenGreen t1_j8jfnfe wrote

Replying to Jaded_Prompt_15 (#1,806,768)

I don’t think anyone’s gonna read the headline and think “oh my, not only did they discover aliens but the first they’re telling us is how their computers work before announcing the discovery of said aliens… Neato!”

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Adept-Variation587 t1_j8jla5n wrote

This theory (however absurd it may be) could lead to some analysis of black holes with data and who knows, maybe we discover something different entirely.

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GromieBooBoo t1_j8jm9t6 wrote

No it’s all actually just one big giant bagel. An everything bagel to be exact.

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Aculeus_ t1_j8jpajk wrote

Whenever I see an article that says something "may", I always add "or may not" in my head.

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magicMikeeee95 t1_j8jra1r wrote

Replying to IvanAfterAll (#1,810,730)

"ARMAMENT EXPERTS AGREE: POTENTIAL SUBTERRANEAN TERRAPIN ATTACK POSSIBLE, TURTLES MAY BE STOCKPILING HUMAN WEAPONS"

The body would go here, but when I went to use the theoretical room of monkeys banging on keyboards, ScienceAlert and TMZ had it booked solid for months.

And for my source, let's go ahead and assume that I can convince a minimum of two r/NonCredibleDefense dwellers that some turtles can indeed field assemble certain brands of handgun.

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IvanAfterAll t1_j8jukw1 wrote

Replying to magicMikeeee95 (#1,810,843)

ChatAI to the rescue:

Title: Unusual Weapon Assembly Activity Observed in a Population of Turtles on a Hollow Island

Authors: Dr. Mei Ling Wong, Department of Zoology, University of Singapore; Dr. Thomas Anderson, Division of Ecology and Evolution, University of California, Berkeley

Abstract: In this study, we report the discovery of a population of turtles living in a previously unknown hollow island located near the equator. Our research team utilized satellite imaging to identify the island, and upon closer inspection, discovered that the interior of the island was hollow and occupied by a large number of turtles.

During our observations, we noticed that the turtles were engaging in an unusual activity: assembling handguns. We collected samples of these weapons and conducted a thorough analysis of their components and construction.

Our findings indicate that the turtles are capable of assembling functional handguns using raw materials and tools that they appear to have acquired through unknown means. The purpose of these weapons is currently unknown and requires further investigation.

This discovery raises important questions about the capacity of non-human species to engage in complex behaviors and raises concerns about the potential threats posed by these activities. Further research is needed to better understand the origins and implications of this behavior.

We urge all relevant government agencies and organizations to take this discovery seriously and to take appropriate measures to address any potential threats to national security.

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Anxious_Aardvark8714 t1_j8jw8sc wrote

Considering how little we know about the existence of life beyond our own planet, that seems to be wild speculation.

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momolamomo t1_j8kcq8r wrote

It’s a massively outlandish idea. However, can we draw ideas from this?

From what I gather, scientists are tinkering with the validity of the idea that an object in space that was not manufactured can be used to compute.

Can we do this with tree roots? Can we apply this concept within a reachable grasp?

The concept in its raw unadulterated form sounds like something from startrek.

But let’s water it down, can we take advantage of this concept here, on earth?

It’s an interesting concept,

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momolamomo t1_j8kdd1c wrote

Replying to Lazaruzo (#1,807,621)

Theorising about alien processing systems removes human/earth bias and CAN/MAY allow us to approach how we process data and computations.

Look at how the quantum computer can about. We started by ourselves what if the entire internet could be stored in a grain of salt but we’ve been busy mucking around with silicone and binary states.

Everything that processes today is based on the premise of Morse code. We just advanced the shit out of it

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[deleted] t1_j8kkf1e wrote

I think there's a finite need for computing power so you'd have to be in a situation where you couldn't make the computers just like when your own planet. Personally I don't think it would be necessary or viable.

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AloofPenny t1_j8kkflq wrote

The whole ring around a black hole is just stored data. So this could really be a thing

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Pregogets58466 t1_j8kl2ps wrote

Delusional thinking. Particle and quantum physics can be fun but there are limits to a human brain

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WildGrem7 t1_j8klam2 wrote

Do physics undergrads blogging their stream of consciousness after blunt night at alpha sigma kappa reallllly count as physicists? Asking for a friend.

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Feine13 t1_j8ko0wp wrote

Do we think adolescent aliens still complain to their parents that their sibling is hogging all the computer time?

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[deleted] t1_j8kzyb9 wrote

find out how aliens use this one simple trick to mine UNLIMITED crypto using black hole NFTs.

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moonpotatofries t1_j8l0pw7 wrote

We’ve sent the humans three care packages and they’ve shot them all down!

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Tincastle t1_j8lapwp wrote

Is this similar idea to the Transcension Hypothesis?

There is a paper written by John M Smart close to this, where the ultimate form of an advanced civilization is to get smaller and smaller allowing for instantaneous computing power. Being near black holes, or that the civilization itself is the blackhole.

It’s a good read.

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JustYourAvgJester t1_j8lc9r0 wrote

Im betting trash cans. I can't see anyone playing Crysis 13 on a wormhole computer.

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Communications23 t1_j8lhtl0 wrote

In a recent study, random words are arranged into a grammatically correct sentence.

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Wdrussell1 t1_j8m9fzq wrote

I mean, I can see how this could be possible. Not the tech specifically but the idea. Black holes are super unpredictable to us right now but with the right tools you could likely modify this and get it to do simple calculations. But then further the tech and get actual computing out of the things.

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JakeBeezy t1_j8mklru wrote

For anybody interested in this topic a YouTuber who goes deep into theoretical stuff exactly like this. YouTube handle is Isaac Arthur

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Insane_Artist t1_j8msqqj wrote

I imagine the conversation went like this -

Physicists: "There is no credible evidence for extra-terrestrial life."

Science Journalist: "Could aliens be among us and they are just undetectable?"

Physicists: "Psh. I mean if you are going to say that then you might as well say that invisible gnomes are using moonbeams to make chutney. Hell, for all we know aliens could be using black holes as quantum computers."

Science Journalist: ...

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Peesha_Deel t1_j8q0hq1 wrote

At this point, I'm pretty sure 'Physicists' are just making shit up.

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Anindefensiblefart t1_j8qqj0g wrote

"Abraham Lincoln might have butt fucked your great great grandma." - historian

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Sinistrahd t1_j8rulro wrote

Breaking News: Physicists Read Too Much Larry Niven

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