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hatramroany t1_j4q0ev2 wrote

This is the first comment under the article:

>This is just a UX messaging error. I am in the boat of owning an Apple TV and no other Apple devices. All I had to do was sign out of my iCloud account and sign back in. That presented the terms right on the TV screen. I accepted them, and the prompt no longer appears.

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Pubelication t1_j4q65ix wrote

C'mon, man! You're ruining the outrage!

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LoafyLemon t1_j4qavfd wrote

Doesn't change the fact it's still incredibly stupid. Are they even testing the updates?

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africanasshat t1_j4qkxp5 wrote

Well that’s anti climatic. Guess I’ll just go find something else that’s wrong with them then.

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DameonKormar t1_j4s612h wrote

The Apple "family" stuff can only be managed from an Apple device. And unlike Android, I can't put another user on one of my kid's iPhones, so I have to keep an old iPad in my office and the only time I ever use it is when I need to change a family setting.

Super annoying, honestly.

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Nawnp t1_j4tw7ln wrote

If it prompts differently, it's not a bug but still bad design, just the commenter found a workaround (thankfully) to it.

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[deleted] t1_j4vrsik wrote

It's absolutely buck wild to me how many victims of Apple Derangement Syndrome sincerely thought this was a design choice and not a bug. In what universe would this even make sense from a business perspective? "In order to use this $130 streaming device you need a $1000 iPhone." People would just buy a fucking Roku instead.

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BeowulfsGhost t1_j4txlya wrote

You totally ruined my snarky reply! Take my sullen up vote dammit!

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MSTRFLSH t1_j4ug0tf wrote

"error". There's a whole bunch of elderly and technically inept people out there panicking, now looking to buy an iOS device or their TV won't work and Apple knows it.

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cardcomm t1_j4vp8p1 wrote

but how, as users, were we supposed to know this?

I faced this myself (my iPhone needed updated, and I didn't want to update) - I guess I wasn't brilliant enough to know automatically that logging out if iCloud was gonna fix it! smh

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ballzdeap1488 t1_j4pyzdp wrote

How many android owners are buying Apple TVs over Roku or Chromecasts? Even for people already in the Apple ecosystem, an Apple TV is probably one of the last things they buy.

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-DementedAvenger- t1_j4q2gnq wrote

There are many people in the 50+ age range that do not care what ecosystem their devices are part of. They get the android phone because their family recommends it, but then turn around and get an Apple TV because a friend of theirs recommended it. And they don’t really care how these devices interact with one another.

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freeturk51 t1_j4qxbhk wrote

Does anyone recommend Apple TVs outside of NA? Never seen one in the wild in Europe

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spazzardnope t1_j4re2d6 wrote

I’m in the UK and have owned several since the PowerPC days when you could install OS X on them with a bit of tinkering and turn them into pseudo Mac Mini’s. It helps that they used to give them out free with MacBooks and iMacs if you were a student or working in education. Now you just get an Apple media voucher.

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b1e t1_j4r2lks wrote

Really? We have one on each tv in our summer home in Italy and most of our friends use them since they’re better than the crappy OS that comes with the tv.

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freeturk51 t1_j4r34q5 wrote

Anywhere I went (Totals to France, Germany, Sweden, Austria, Cyprus and where I live, Turkey) it was people using stuff like Mi Boxes, Bravia or Philips TVs with preloaded Google TV or TVs with Amazon Fire OS. Although it is obvious that the usage count is not 0, from what I have seen, it is not widespread, although I can guess that there obviously are groups like you lot who use it.

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b1e t1_j4r3hfz wrote

I mean in the US I wouldn’t say it’s super widespread either. Most people just use whatever chrome OS comes on their TV.

Main reason to get one is the vastly better UI + responsiveness, proper HDR support, and sometimes better streaming quality.

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Biomax315 t1_j4uluh5 wrote

I have two smart TVs and use an Apple TV on both of them for exactly those reasons.

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MichaelScottsWormguy t1_j4rm5km wrote

Sounds like ignorance to me.

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-DementedAvenger- t1_j4ro5ni wrote

Ignorance isn’t always bad. The option to have several good products made by different companies is a good thing.

And they should reasonably be able to function without a handful of other thousand-dollar devices.

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XuX24 t1_j4qyafo wrote

My dad hates Apple products from PCs to their phones but he likes Apple music for their lossless and dolby atmos music. So he has an apple TV that he uses for music

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Edwunclerthe3rd t1_j4v3202 wrote

Just out of curiosity, does he have a device that will actually output this sound? LG phones had Quad DAC but you still needed a good music app and output device

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XuX24 t1_j4x75qd wrote

Uses his PC and his Samsung Phone. He also has a Small USBc DAC

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MrGeekman t1_j4r7tfj wrote

Why didn't he just sign up for either Tidal or Spotify HiFi?

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XuX24 t1_j4rb07y wrote

Tidal isn't available worldwide, and Spotify Hi-fi doesn't exists.

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twogoodshoes t1_j4rs7hp wrote

I have an Android and Apple TV. Remote alone is worth it for me, also being able to hardwire it's network access is preferable. I also have a Chromecast on the same TV if I ever want to stream anything from my phone.

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DnB925Art t1_j4t6jw7 wrote

Could also hardwire Chromecast as well FYI

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twogoodshoes t1_j4taofs wrote

Don't you need an adapter? I like how it's integrated on the Apple TV.. I believe Roku has or had a model with Ethernet port as well, but I'm not a fan of their os and interface.

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DnB925Art t1_j65lfex wrote

Yes you have to buy one but it's like $20 give or take

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Nawnp t1_j4twhu5 wrote

Of note you can stream your Android to the Apple TV, I think it's only native to certain brands and a paid app otherwise though.

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They_Call_Me_Ted t1_j4s40aa wrote

I’d be curious to know this as well. I’m not entirely sure it’s “the last thing they buy” considering it’s dirt cheap in comparison to other Apple products and (arguably) a very nice product with lots of great features, but I could definitely be wrong here.

Full disclosure, I’m an Apple fanboy for sure but I’m also a UX designer and really appreciate how easy the Apple TV interface is to use. I bought my 72 year old mother one for Christmas a couple years ago (she’s an Android user) and it’s honestly the only tech she doesn’t call me asking how to use. In fact, she freaking loves that thing.

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Harvey_Rabbit t1_j4qnkib wrote

This is also an issue with the apple tv app on other devices.

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Nawnp t1_j4twt4u wrote

Apple TV is far superior OS to other tv interfaces, UP Next is a top tier app feature.

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Renive t1_j4qv9mv wrote

It's the fastest and the only one to support Wifi 6 which was crucial to me (wifi 5 couldn't stream all my high bitrate library from plex). I would go for newer Nvidia Shield if it existed.

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Different-Beat7217 t1_j4qfu3g wrote

I’d love to see stats on non iPhone users who have AppleTV.

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tignasse t1_j4r4fa9 wrote

Apple tv and a pixel 6

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Different-Beat7217 t1_j4rlp2q wrote

Yea stats.. not anecdotes.

So far you are one out of 25 million.

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Different-Beat7217 t1_j4rm496 wrote

Whoops! You And the person who wrote the article. 2 of 25 million.

Number of ‘verified’ non iPhone users with ApplTV has doubled in last 3 hours!

There’s some solid stats!

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Soofla t1_j4s49rp wrote

Me. As far as I know, no Android device will allow me to watch movies I've purchased from the Apple store. I can however watch Google purchased movies on the Apple TV.

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Nawnp t1_j4twl99 wrote

You can stream iTunes content online, so it works on Android, just not as well.

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Soofla t1_j4uc2j6 wrote

I think that is just it - the Media Streamer on our main TV is a family device and anyone in the family should just be able to switch it on and it all works.
That is definitely the case with the Apple TV box - switch on, everything tiled, click and away you go. All content accessible. It really is good at what it does.

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emptysoul365 t1_j4zf7hm wrote

You can watch all AppleTV (including purchased content) on a Chromecast Ultra. I imagine it would work on any Google TV device.

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Soofla t1_j4zfm7j wrote

I genuinely wasn't aware of that. So the AppleTV App does allow you to play back purchased movies from iTunes?
That opens up my options should Apple make it near impossible for me to keep on using the Apple TV box as my only Apple device.
Cheers.

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emptysoul365 t1_j4zfwzt wrote

Yup. Literally just checked it before I posted in case I was making an ass of myself. I don't have any purchased content from Apple so can't fully test it but there's a Library section which when selected tells me I haven't purchased anything.

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Different-Beat7217 t1_j4qovvs wrote

AppleTV doesn’t require a person to have an iPhone. So there’s that. iPhone not needed

Even so. AppleTV has not been a huge success. The % of non iPhone users who have AppleTV is probably in single digits or lower.

If they did assume all AppleTV users had iPhone, it’s a pretty good time to not give a fuck about such a small number of users.

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Soofla t1_j4s40kt wrote

I am not an Apple person. Many people would go further and describe me as an Apple hater.
I do just prefer the Android ecosystem and that is where all my portable devices sit.
I do however own an Apple TV. I wanted a device with all of the various streaming services on (UK) and even allows me to watch my Google purchased movies via the YouTube app.
I also wanted a streamer that 'just works", fully supports Dolby Vision and has very minimal lip-sync issues. I am that person who owns only a single Apple product and it's an Apple TV.
If I want to be able to access the movies I've purchased through the Apple Store, I need to stick with it.

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Alexstarfire t1_j4tlafp wrote

Lip sync issues?

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Nawnp t1_j4tx1j2 wrote

When the audio is out of sync with the picture.

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Soofla t1_j4ucd5e wrote

I've tried a number of different devices, Firesticks, Chromecast and I've always had an issue with something being out of sync.
I run a Yamaha RX-V585 receiver to a Sony XE9300 TV and with the Apple TV box, all apps are in sync.
With the Firestick I seem to remember it was Amazon Prime UHD content that had a lipsync issue. With the Chromecast I'm sure it was Netflix - I'll admit it has been a while since I used either.
Frustrating watching and I'm getting the sound, just milliseconds, before the movement - very off-putting in dialogue heavy sequences.

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ggsupreme t1_j4pzs2n wrote

I keep getting the new terms notification but when I hit ok it just launches like regular, doesn’t require me to do anything 🤣

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MichaelScottsWormguy t1_j4rlyq5 wrote

I mean, what are the odds of owning an Apple TV if you don’t own an iPhone? The iPhone is literally the gateway drug of Apple products.

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brobossdj t1_j4s6o0v wrote

Why get an apple TV without other apple devices? Thought the point of having all of the devices under apple is that they connect with each other? You can get a Roku tv or firestick for less money and it'll work the same.

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Dangerous_Data_3047 t1_j4sjfuz wrote

Why would you get Apple TV if you didn’t have an iPhone?

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MacSquawk t1_j4rso2b wrote

Apple would send a patch through its update service to fix this glitch if any glitch cost them potential customers.

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darthy_parker t1_j4sviz2 wrote

OR you can print out and sign the form from the Apple web site, mail it in, and wait for the PIN to be mailed to you a week later. Your call…

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BoxOfDemons t1_j4u477p wrote

Fun fact. You also need an iPhone to activate the apple credit card. Despite them selling me on one when I bought an iPad.

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Harvey_Rabbit t1_j4pyzg3 wrote

Just signed up for apple tv. I had to dig through my box of old phones to find my iphone with a crushed screen but would charge to activate my account. Very strange process.

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kamekaze1024 t1_j4qgjue wrote

https://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/10eb2cs/the_apple_tv_expects_you_to_have_an_iphone_in/j4q0ev2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

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Harvey_Rabbit t1_j4qmip6 wrote

I just went through this. We got free apple tv by having T-Mobile. My TV has the apple tv app. We had apple laptops, but we spent all afternoon trying to find a way to set up an account and get it on the TV. The solution we eventually found was to charge up an old broken iphone.

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thedm96 t1_j4qdfef wrote

And this is why I stay away from this particular walled garden.

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