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paulfromatlanta t1_iubayeq wrote

Probably just to build good will for when they stone a gay British fan...

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throwawayshirt t1_iubieb7 wrote

Every Olympics and every World Cup are awarded through massive bribes. Does anyone not know this?

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MansfromDaVinci t1_iubiyr5 wrote

The corruption world cup has started and Qatar pull into an early lead with a quarter of a million 'gifts' to British MPs. Qatar were already the favourites, racking up a score of somewhere over 5 million in bribes to fifa in qualifying and with the gains they made in build up by not paying their slaves it's hard to see how anyone can touch them at this stage. But it's always all to play for in the beautiful game and with an estimated minimum of 150 million in the back of a swiss bank vault by the end of the tournament there's still room for the other contenders to have a dig.

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Max_minutia t1_iubjq5z wrote

I wish I watched the world cup so I could boycott the world cup.

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TehOwn t1_iubmxkz wrote

I want MPs that would refuse the bribes gifts. Is that too much to ask?

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_CurseTheseMetalHnds t1_iubohm4 wrote

>Mundell, who was the first openly gay Conservative cabinet minister, also gave an interview to Qatar’s state-run agency this year in which he criticised “baseless” media coverage about a report into Qatar’s record on worker rights

Being openly gay and taking bribes from a country that arrests gay people is shocking. Also disappointed to see Chris Bryant named there. I expect it from Tories but a labour MP, especially one as solid as Bryant is, should be above this.

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schwagggg t1_iubqpt2 wrote

so y’all boycotted so that the politicians can get those gifts😂

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Warmso24 t1_iubr100 wrote

Replying to _CurseTheseMetalHnds (#331,719)

Maybe I’m just cynical but I’ve come to the conclusion that most politicians are all the same. They say different things but it’s all just means to an end for many of them. Don’t get me wrong, there are good politicians out there. I’ve just become so jaded that I find it hard to trust any of their motives.

Edit: spelling

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_CurseTheseMetalHnds t1_iubrwf6 wrote

Replying to Warmso24 (#332,242)

I don't really buy the "they're all the same" chat when we have one side voting to ban fracking and one voting to allow it, one pushing for workers rights and one demonising unions, one pushing for green energy and one banning on shore wind, one calling for a windfall tax on energy companies and another crashing the economy via tax cuts for the rich etc. A very quick look at the two main parties makes it obvious they're not the same. This article being full of conservative MPs who did propaganda work for Qatar and one labour MP who took a single trip and now outwards admits he was wrong to do so also shows that. Christ, the divide by party on this bill about creating buffer zones around abortion clinics to see top protestors harassing people on the way in says it all.

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Calgar77 t1_iubth3g wrote

The bit in the article that amuses me is the list of all the countries that “donate” to MPs. Mostly oil states, Human rights abusers etc and San Marino!

Imagine all your fellow MPs on the gravy train getting luxury trips to the Middle East and your getting twenty quid from from the Sammarinese government to buy yourself a cuppa. I suppose at least their not human rights abusers though.

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matrixislife t1_iubvih5 wrote

What really bothers me is that the MPs were so cheap. £250k to MPs, £5mill to Fifa. Have some respect for your own country MPs, at least hold out for a decent bribe!

Or, don't get bribed at all, that'd be the best option ofc.

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porkchop-sandwhiches t1_iubwtn5 wrote

My retired military brain filled the acronym with military police and it made zero sense for a micro second.

Ahh members of parliament.

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bargle0 t1_iubyuz6 wrote

So they returned the gifts, right?

Right?

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bug_the_bug t1_iubzeso wrote

I wonder how many of those "gifts" have mothers...

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thelittleking t1_iuc1dsp wrote

Why does everyone in power have to be so fucking corrupt

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nc1264 t1_iuc2287 wrote

I’m sure those gifts will ensure they can be blackmailed. The flesh is weak and I’m sure they believe they will get away with this

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tsog83 t1_iuc8iyz wrote

Meanwhile in Germany and France MPs are already planning news articles "claiming" that they are thinking about making a critical statement about the World Cup.

Everybody deserves gifts!

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Mr_Happy_80 t1_iucajpf wrote

Replying to _CurseTheseMetalHnds (#332,439)

The Tories can't decide what their stance is on fracking, having U turned 5 times in the last 6 months.

A windfall tax isn't a tax on energy companies, it is another tax on working people that hits the poorest the hardest. It is still our money. We don't need windfall taxes, we need a regulator that does something and isn't run by someone's friend from public school.

We have a shadow health minister pushing for more NHS privatisation as he's in the pocket of insurance companies, and other MPs in the pocket of foreign owned water companies.

They're all the same. Keith is another Blairite Tory in a red tie.

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duffmanhb t1_iuceghx wrote

Replying to CUJO-31 (#336,041)

The US was awarded it because Bill Clinton personally was lobbying for it, felt robbed, so he got them all thrown in jail. The USA got the World Cup to appease them.

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Hattix t1_iucgrio wrote

Come on MPs, it's a bit blatant if even Qatar knows your price!

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Mr_Happy_80 t1_iuchg4y wrote

Replying to thelovelykyle (#336,897)

Wake up, mate. Labour isn't the party of the left any more. Keith even stood up at the party conference and said Labour is back in the centre. It should be no where near it.

The voting record isn't opposite each other, as Labour MPs have some of the worst attendance. Not attending a vote is agreeing with the bill that succeeds. All turning up to vote against Austerity bills is voter pandering. For every Zarah Sultana there are 5 red tie Tories.

In power they're not in a rush to reverse anything. Privatised industry is still privatised and will remain so. A windfall tax is just another tax on us. Tell me I'm wrong.

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Claustrophobopolis t1_iuci427 wrote

<Insert Oprah meme here> Everybody gets £30.000!

They might as well give each World Cup viewer £5000.

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Gogttr t1_iuci9a3 wrote

Cant wait for world cup tho

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dazedandconfused492 t1_iucig00 wrote

Replying to Mr_Happy_80 (#336,091)

People don't want to accept this because it makes things feel hopeless. But it's still the truth. Britain has a 2 party system, and neither of them are working in the interest of the people.

The fact that the leader of the LABOUR Party isn't in full support of strikes for people in vital services to receive decent pay should be the clue.

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dazedandconfused492 t1_iucin0w wrote

Replying to TehOwn (#331,400)

The problem is we need the people who don't really want to be an MP in charge, we need people who just want to make things better. I'm sure some try, but they're quickly and quietly pushed out.

99.9% of the time, people enter into politics for power and personal / financial gain.

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thelovelykyle t1_iuciul6 wrote

Replying to Mr_Happy_80 (#337,260)

Girl. I am not even reading your replies. You are part of the Left Wing supporters of Conservative government.

Your thoughts, you even, have zero value to me. There are plenty more people worthy of my effort. Not a chance I check out a video of yours. That time can be spent on something worthwhile.

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Welshguy78 t1_iuck93c wrote

Replying to Semper_nemo13 (#335,445)

I'm from the Rhondda and there is next to no chance of Plaid defeating him in the next GE sadly. Its baffling as he genuinely seems to hate Welsh people (see his reaction to Owain Glwyndr day) and has done nothing for the Rhondda. It's one of the safest seats in the House and all he's concerned with is furthering his political position (see his bid to become Speaker). He lucked into a safe seat and is now just going thru the motions, waiting for his 'big break!'

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Altair1192 t1_iuckend wrote

these MPs are traitors. Politicians are snakes and would sell out their own grandmother for a pay day

This world cup should have been hosted in England if it wasn't for the corruption in FIFA

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CalTurner t1_iuclqzg wrote

'Bribes' fixed it for you.

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rmovny_schnr98 t1_iuclxrt wrote

Replying to ProwerTheFox (#337,783)

Nobody said it was mate.

It's a big problem amongst English fans, to which I count myself, which is why I mentioned it. If you want to change things, you need to start by sweeping in front of your own front door.

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rmovny_schnr98 t1_iucm96o wrote

Replying to dunkmaster6856 (#337,900)

Read my comment again buddy, maybe you'll understand it the second time around.

Also, if you do acknowledge it as a problem, why are you being so sensitive about me calling it out? We can definitely call out the idiots amongst ourselves without disregarding that there are idiots elsewhere too.

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gopium3076 t1_iucmd9d wrote

Why does that not surprise me

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YamNMX t1_iuco12k wrote

HOLY SHIT, this one guy received like 10k for flying over twice and spending a week... that won't even cover the costs.

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DnANZ t1_iucobzm wrote

Let me know when Qatar starts jailing journalists that expose war crimes Qatar committed this century.

Until then... keep hosting in Qatar.

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bilkel t1_iucricf wrote

In light of who, exactly, in the world controls the largest liquified natural gas manufacturing infrastructure, and the need for that scarce resource, having good relations with Qatar is essential for any country that has a cold winter. This is a fact of life.

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teabagmoustache t1_iuctow9 wrote

Replying to rmovny_schnr98 (#337,876)

I count myself as a gay England fan and have never seen this as a big problem among fans at all. At least not from a personal perspective.

To suggest that English fans would like to join in with the stoning of gay people is a bit ridiculous really.

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rmovny_schnr98 t1_iucudbq wrote

Replying to teabagmoustache (#339,168)

Hey, glad that hasn't been your experience! I've witnessed some really homophobic shit in different stadiums across the country over the years.

But yeah, the stoning part was hyperbole on my part.

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britboy4321 t1_iucwvk5 wrote

Replying to bargle0 (#333,874)

At work whenever I travel to India they give me a posh bottle of wine. I am NOT ALLOWED to refuse it, as that is considered rude. So I jist write the name of the wine in a book at work, then go home and drink it!

Am I being bribed? :)

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StiffNipples94 t1_iuczrvj wrote

That's probably a thank you for how full there jails are going to be with drunken gays wearing shorts. That was a joke, as is this World Cup they just sent the migrant workers home instead of giving them tickets to watch a game in a stadium they built. Football is for everyone this World Cup is for show as was Russia.

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Satansflamingfarts t1_iud2vsl wrote

The British ruling classes are so weak it's pretty routine to bribe them. Just ask the king. This whole event shouldn't even have happened it is one of the most openly corrupt things FIFA has had a hand in. Nobody in high places seems to be speaking out about it but I have a feeling the viewing figures are going to be low anyway and the atmosphere in the stadium will be like a dull corporate event. I'm definitely not interested in watching it.

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Zamugustar t1_iud69ki wrote

There is no world cup this year.

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Mrsparkles7100 t1_iud73f3 wrote

World Cups and bribes, I’m shocked I tell you.

Can be said for every World Cup tournament. Have to please FIFA and sweeten the deal during selection.

FIFA, the football’s world governing body, has acknowledged that its own officials accepted up to $10 million in return for votes that awarded South Africa the 2010 World Cup tournament, Agence France-Presse reports.

I still love the Budweiser story from Brazilian World Cup.

Corruption at FIFA

Example from article

For example, the TV rights for showing the 2010 and 2014 World Cup tournaments were bought for $600,000 to a TV company owned by a FIFA member Jack Warner. His company then sold them on to a different company for $18 million, earning a profit of £17.4 million.

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_CurseTheseMetalHnds t1_iudbkb8 wrote

Replying to Mr_Happy_80 (#336,091)

> The Tories can't decide what their stance is on fracking, having U turned 5 times in the last 6 months.

Right, and we know what Labour's stance is.

>Keith

Wow you really slagged him there, dunno how he'll recover. Not being as left as would be desirable isn't the same as being indistinguishable from the Tories for fucks sake.

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habitual_wanderer t1_iudfi4g wrote

Yet people keep paying to go to these events. Solid pass for me.

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Pidgey_OP t1_iudgiv8 wrote

It's weird that any amount of money gifted to a politician from a different country is ok. Seems like about the first thing I'd outlaw to make sure my politicians are working for the people and not other countries best interests

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flyover_liberal t1_iudgm3a wrote

There's a podcast called "World Corrupt" on the corruption surrounding FIFA and the World Cup events in Russia and then Qatar. Even if you already had a sense of it, the details are astonishing.

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TheRauk t1_iudgtxt wrote

Replying to Max_minutia (#330,726)

This is the correct answer. The fans that watch it, travel to Qatar, and otherwise vote with their hard earned currency are the ones who enable all of this. Typical virtue signaling.

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Welshguy78 t1_iudoqwt wrote

Replying to Semper_nemo13 (#343,253)

People seem more willing to vote for Plaid for the Welsh Government elections. But when it comes to General Elections, they always go Labour. Everyone hates him, but people just vote red out of habit. He could damn and flood the entire bloody valley and he'd probably get get a ten thousand majority.

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Cyber_Connor t1_iudvshk wrote

I’m glad our PM is a billionaire. His wealth means that people won’t be able to bribe him and he’ll always act with the countries best interest… /s

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Britishspirit t1_iudwlo2 wrote

Well it’s the only way the tory party dose politics…. Loot at the tax windfall on the oil and gas companies… oh wait….

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tlst9999 t1_iudzvb5 wrote

Replying to tomorrowsredneck (#333,364)

It's easy to make a second set of books of you try hard enough. You just need to make lots of false businesses and false documentation.

Not entirely unachievable with the wealth of Qatar.

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heyimjason t1_iudzx4g wrote

I can’t believe that they’re still planning on doing this in Qatar after everything that keeps coming out. I’m also surprised that the teams aren’t boycotting. Hard to respect the institution.

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bluesamcitizen2 t1_iue0ay2 wrote

British government and MP doesn’t have the power and money to enforce its own law and morals, tale as old as time.

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BrokenSage20 t1_iue42vt wrote

I think those are just called bribes.

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mydirtyboots t1_iuf1ouz wrote

the world cup is a scam, and the bribes are just the tip of the iceberg

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bevo_expat t1_iuf29cb wrote

Sheesh, at least in the US they would make donations to a Super PAC and keep things completely anonymous…😒…

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8racoonsInABigCoat t1_iuff8jn wrote

Replying to Calgar77 (#332,772)

It’s made me wonder about creating some sort of traceability matrix. Like a table that shows the country, the MP, how much was “donated”, then the effect; what did they say, campaign for or vote on in the interests of the donor? Clearly that last column is the hardest part though! Maybe crowdsource that bit…

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peoz t1_iuh3d5a wrote

Replying to paulfromatlanta (#328,972)

Anyone going to Qatar is an idiot. Specially if you’re gay. I’m all for standing up for your rights but to do it in Qatar is like beating a dead horse. Choose another hill to die on, it’s just a corrupt football tournament.

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