Submitted by HurrySad4253 t3_1233oo7 in tifu

Hi everyone, I'm looking for some advice after my terrible experience last weekend in Dallas for my birthday. My two friends (let's call them Bob and Steve) and I went out for a night on the town, and we ended up at a strip club. We had already had a few drinks at dinner, and things were going well until the dancers started offering us drugs.

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At first, I didn't realize what was happening, but after taking the first hit, I sobered up enough to wonder how we even got it in the first place. Despite my better judgment, we continued to party because everyone seemed to be having a good time. Later, the club staff took Bob and me to the office, stating we had made a large purchase. At that point, I was extremely intoxicated and didn't question it. They said the charge was $10,000, and I signed the transaction with my credit card. Bob was also charged $8,000. I remember him saying it was something about service fees for the girls. I know how ridiculous that sounds, but in the moment, I was like, okay, well, I don't want any problems. I better go ahead and pay. When I looked at my account the next morning, I found a second charge for $5,000 on my card. I had fraud alerts for both my credit card and bank account. Luckily I didn't have that much in the bank card that was used, so even though I have a text from ME on my phone confirming I was the one purchasing, that didn't go through. My credit card, however, did have enough. I saw the original charge was flagged as possible fraud, but I found the call I made on my phone to my credit card company, where I'm guessing I told them it was me.

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Steve, who was not involved in the drugs, tried to come and get us earlier during the night, but the club staff would not allow him to come talk to us. They told him we were fine so he ended up going back to the hotel not thinking anything of it.

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Bob and I have always been responsible with our money. Legally, I feel like there's nothing we can do because, technically, we approved any charges that were made. Still, the whole situation seemed extremely predatorial to us when I recall them taking us down to the office. We're now facing a significant financial hit that will take quite some time to recover from.

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TL;DR: Got drunk in Dallas, took drugs from strippers, and now I owe an ungodly amount of money for about 3-4 hours of getting titties slapped in my face.

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stuloch t1_jdt1mjg wrote

There's nothing you can do? You believe that they're selling drugs and you can't think of anything legally that you could do?

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L31FY t1_jdt1r6s wrote

Talk to the police. This is extortion. You can't consent to anything when you're drugged or intoxicated (forced signature that was coerced so null and void) and it's potentially even kidnapping or holding you against your will since they refused to let your ride take you out. No promises but they likely did something wrong here. Not to mention there were drugs. You partook but you likely have immunity to any charges by not possessing any and being a victim like basically how a kid at a party would be. Take them out and reveal the scam. Tell the police literally everything you know and get the other people to do so as well. This is a problem and people could be harmed here. They could be trafficking. Who knows? It's a bad club that needs to get raided. Just imagine there's bad drugs and someone dies, or someone doesn't pay.

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L31FY t1_jdt2qrd wrote

You're a victim. Think of how kids at parties take drugs. They don't go to jail. You don't still have drugs. If you buy bad drugs and get harmed the dealer goes down, not you who took the drugs.

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diablodeldragoon t1_jdt3a2e wrote

Call your cc company and talk to them. They probably have way more experience with this sort of thing than your local police do. Especially since the cc has a vested interest in catching and stopping fraud/ theft.

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HurrySad4253 OP t1_jdt413o wrote

I definitely don't want anyone else to have to be going through what we're dealing with so it absolutely needs to be stopped. I just thought going to the police wouldn't do anything since I "technically" agreed to everything. Which I also remember them having to get a video recording of me stating my name and that I was NOT intoxicated because that charge was over 10k. I can guarantee anyone that watches that video can see that wouldn't have been true.

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HurrySad4253 OP t1_jdt4fwr wrote

>. Especially since the cc has a vested interest in catching and stopp

I did make that call, and there was nothing they could do about it without more info. They told me they needed the item/service that was purchased. I don't even know what was purchased, but I do remember something about a service fee for the girls maybe? I can call them back and see if that would be enough but sounds sketch.

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4rp4n3t t1_jdt5d76 wrote

A foole and his monie be soone at debate,

Which after with sorrow repents him too late.

~OP probably.

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diablodeldragoon t1_jdt5v83 wrote

Yeah. Tell them that you're disputing the charges as you have reason to believe that the club drugged you and robbed you.

A police report should be filed and you should have a drug screen done on yourself. If it's been past 3 days, ask for a hair follicle test. It'll cost you, but it'll show anything you've taken in the past 3 months +

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L31FY t1_jdt6qx3 wrote

That's like the definition of being coerced. So this is definitely important information for the police and the credit card company.

Also the part about where you thought you didn't want any problems and had better just pay? Please emphasize it.

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HurrySad4253 OP t1_jdt6yw7 wrote

> should have a drug screen d

It was last Saturday. I've spent the last week struggling just to get through work. I can spend tomorrow getting that stuff lined up. Thanks for the advice man, it makes me feel a little better with everyone saying to file a report.

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NDALLASFORTY t1_jdt85d7 wrote

Was it The Men's Club, The Lodge, Babydolls, Caligula, or The Clubhouse?

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CMDRissue t1_jdt8p1e wrote

The drugs you were given were probably date rape drugs and you were agreeing to everything. Report that shit.

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HurrySad4253 OP t1_jdt9op9 wrote

I'm not 100% (I'm not super familiar with Dallas) but my CC statement shows SR Dallas, but then they took us to Bucks Wild. I can't exactly remember the reason they took us there, but I've never had anyone take me to another location so I can only imagine it was because it was credit card time for them.

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Kindly-Tangerine-327 t1_jdt9x8j wrote

Yeah, don't go to the police. Get a lawyer. The lawyer will tell the police what will be best for your situation. You will tell the police everything. That is not the same thing. The lawyer will tell you whether you should involve the police at all. But do not go straight to the police.

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Lurcher99 t1_jdtaosp wrote

Club on 35 just north of downtown? Would not be surprised...

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Chanceawrapper t1_jdtbm2f wrote

All the people saying go straight to the police are totally insane. Never admit buying drugs to the police, especially in Texas. If you want to involve the police, go through a lawyer and have them guide you on how to approach this. But realistically you are not getting that money back.

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iamamuttonhead t1_jdtmtkh wrote

Man, you got rolled. Your only out is to go to the Police.

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DrPopNFresh t1_jdtnng8 wrote

You tell them when they pull that you arnt paying and they can explain they tried to charge two drunk customers 10k for cocaine at their establishment. Easy as fuck call their bluff.

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Sword_Thain t1_jdtrmfk wrote

Won't do any good. The club donates to the cops. And / or the girls service them.

A guy I know got hit for 44k at a club in New Orleans. The last thing he says he remembers when they took him in the back room was a Tony Montana mound of coke on a table.

Cops literally laughed at him when he called.

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Monstiemama t1_jdtshpr wrote

Watch the movie Hustlers; this was their entire game. They get popped in the end so maybe there’s advice, but get a lawyer.

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tossaway69420lol t1_jdtvzu4 wrote

All that money gone and not even any blowjobs or anything. Wtf

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serenityrain85 t1_jdtxbdt wrote

I suggest getting a drug test asap. It sounds like they drugged you with the intention of driving you blind. That's not legal and they should be arrested

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FreQRiDeR t1_jdtxpzk wrote

Yeah and a LOT of those places are run by H.A. You do NOT want to mess with them!

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Explorer335 t1_jdtyp63 wrote

Local strip clubs were distributing drugs and extorting customers like this. Police and DEA descended on them like the wrath of God. The guys running the clubs got decades in prison.

Talk to your bank about disputing the charges, explain that you were drugged and extorted. You'll need a lawyer to limit your exposure, but you'll need to involve law enforcement. Police and DEA will fuck them up.

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Federal_Way9584 t1_jdu934e wrote

Get a lawyer or dispute the charges and never come back to texas

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BalanceEarly t1_jduh7uy wrote

Deny the charges with your credit card company!

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BlackPignouf t1_jdui5z9 wrote

Do you remember everything?

If I ever pay $15k to a strip-club (spoiler: I won't), I hope I get much more than 3-4 hours of titty slaps. And I'd make sure the girls get a significant percentage of it.

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joos1986 t1_jdul02c wrote

Yeah, but also.

This is very fucked up. These dodgy ass places count on the fact that they, and you, are dealing in illicit stuff to take advantage of you.

Probably counting on a mix of your embarrassment, and strong arm tactics, and it's straight up robbery.

I feel for you man. You went out for a night on the town, you didn't deserve to be robbed.

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joos1986 t1_jdulslg wrote

man the more details you share the more fucked up this comes across.

Like some mentioned, I figure they may have given you GHB.It is scary how the whole thing seems so set-up and planned out.

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Hope you got it in you to go for the (hopefully) easily doable next steps people mentioned. See how it goes from there.

Bloodwork (wouldn't you want to know what it was, even if it doesn't go anywhere?), see if you can read up some more, and if possible at least have a consultation with legal representation.

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I always get overwhelmed (and frequently) fuck up on things like this.

Don't beat yourself up. Throw out any self blame, it doesn't help.

The situation is at it's worst right now. You can't change that.

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Every little thing you manage to do only helps your case.

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You were in a situation where you were taken advantage of and harmed by people that intentionally made sure you were vulnerable.

Clear your head, look at it objectively.

You were the victim. But you don't have to feel that way.

Sober, capable, you can do things about this.

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dewayneestes t1_jduyxoz wrote

Last time I was at a strip club—and it’s been a while—the two guys in front of us got in for free by showing their police badges. In fact the only times I’ve gotten into strip clubs for free was because we were with cops.

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justwhatever22 t1_jduzax8 wrote

Lookie here, I'm no moralising do-gooder. You won't believe that in a minute, I know, but... honestly I'm not.

But, like, did you ever get the feeling the universe is telling you something about the choices you made here?

Dude, just a friendly tip. Perhaps just have a think about maybe *not* going to strip clubs. Or accepting invitations to take drugs. Or getting intoxicated to the point where you feel those are good decisions.

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daveescaped t1_jdv2a8w wrote

Who runs this club? Mobster?

Lawyer up asap. Follow your lawyers instructions.

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AmbianDream t1_jdv47xs wrote

A lawyer will tell you what to do and if you need to make a report to the police. Don't lie to the police. You're whole case rests on the fact that you were under the influence of illegal substances. If you were already drinking, you probably were already impaired to consent to taking drugs. I highly doubt you'll go to jail for doing illegal drugs in the past.

If this is going on in all the clubs there, the cops are paid off and you're dealing with organized crime. Aaaccckkk! Lawyer up but you're gonna pay him too!

Weigh it out but I would do least do a couple of consults and have more information before I decided on a plan.

Easiest option might be just telling the CC security people what you told us. IDK what they would do, but they aren't gonna have you arrested and they just might wipe it out.

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chloobugg t1_jdv89tt wrote

i was going to say, this isn’t the first time this has happened to somebody, nor the first time the authorities have dealt with it. good movie, sucks for it to be the plot of your life though.

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for_dishonor t1_jdv8c39 wrote

The strip club knows what they're doing. They have your signature and likely your finger print. Maybe even you on camera signing. If you dispute it they'll just say it was buyers remorse look at all the proof. This is a fairly common scam.

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Lordkjun t1_jdva2vh wrote

Your lawyer will also tell you to stop posting about it online. At the risk of killing our own entertainment here, you should probably delete this thread.

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LadyBug_0570 t1_jdvwqc5 wrote

But would the credit card company consider it fraud? He did authorize the charges, after all, even when the cc was flagging this as an issue. Even his drug usuage wouldn't help him since he voluntarily took the drugs (and his other friend didn't).

Now the strip club? They WERE predatory. 100%. Is there something that can be done against them?

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ghostprawn t1_jdvww33 wrote

I had a friend in this exact situation with 10K on his Amex card. He first claimed it wasn't him in the champagne room, but the club promptly sent Amex photos of him leaving the champagne room. He still contested it with Amex, claiming he was coerced/ripped off. He kept contesting it for months, threatened to cancel his card, etc. Eventually Amex ended up covering the entire bill.

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JayDanger710 t1_jdw3h8k wrote

3-4 hours at $20 a song.

Average song is 3 minutes

240/3 = ~80 songs

80x20 = 1600 per girl.

I'm going to guess you weren't partying with 10 girls at once, so lets be conservative and say you were partying with two for the night.

15k - 3200 = $11800

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Y'all did half a brick in one night?

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ScionMattly t1_jdw4mhv wrote

>Yeah, but I mean, I was the one who took them. To me, that means I'm involved in the whole thing would it not?

Ask yourself what the crimes are for drugs.
Posession
Distribution
Influence

Now ask yourself how many of those you currently can be charged with, and how many they can currently be charged with.

Also, isn't anything you signed while intoxicated not legally binding? Am I imagining that?

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magikspl t1_jdw6ahm wrote

Lmao, you can dispute the transaction. You weren't in a state of mind to approve these charges. And you should quickly have urine sample done to prove all of this. This will be easy to get your money back.

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raxsdale t1_jdw6iyh wrote

What kind of drugs? Do you know?

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daihlo t1_jdw7a48 wrote

Report the charges immediately to your credit card company (do not call the cops) as fraud and that you felt coerced at the time of approving it - they see this all the time and it will go away - the bank will decline the charge and the club will not pursue it with the bank

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kzwix t1_jdw90rz wrote

Did they exactly explain all the side effects of the drugs before hand ? Like, say, alteration of judgement ?

If the drugs are legal AND you took them knowing that you could do huge mistakes afterwards, then maybe you deserve what you got charged with.

If not, maybe, just maybe, they have done things they shouldn't have. Also, forbidding your non-intoxicated friend to come and meet you was so they could manipulate you without him protecting you guys. It's 100% a trap you fell in, and there should be ways to make a judge (or better, a jury) recognize that.

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Kindly-Tangerine-327 t1_jdw951m wrote

Hell's Angels is a bike gang that does low tier drug dealing on the side. I'd be much more concerned about an actual cartel, and even then, you should be okay as long as you're not too close to the border or too involved.

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kzwix t1_jdw9i02 wrote

Possession ? Sure, let them pat him, look in his house, his clothes, whatever. I doubt they'll find much.

Intoxication, yeah, could be, especially if he admits having taken the drug willingly. But would it be worse than the sum that was stolen from him ?

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fusiondynamics t1_jdwbssk wrote

Holy shit, the amount of bad info. This is why you don't ask for advise from mindless idiots on Reddit.

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Kindly-Tangerine-327 t1_jdwbstb wrote

HA is pretty low on the organized crime totem pole. I'm not saying they're completely harmless, but they're mostly just a bunch of edgy motorcyclists that sometimes do crime on the side. Not comparable to cartels at all. Take a look a CJNJ and feel free to compare.

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uuuuuuummmm_yeah t1_jdwd4d1 wrote

Have you ever seen the movie Hustlers with Jennifer Lopez? This reminds me of that...

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cardcomm t1_jdwd64c wrote

Pro Tip for strip clubs -

NEVER pay with a credit card!

And

Never hit the ATM in the club - if you think you need more $$$, LEAVE the club to hit an ATM someplace else - this gives you a chance to let reason kick in...

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JCanzo t1_jdwded3 wrote

Hire a lawyer, this is enough money where it is worth it

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Layne205 t1_jdwe1y1 wrote

There's no such crime as having previously used drugs. Not in Texas anyway. I'm not saying they'll be helpful though. Probably speaking through a lawyer is the best advice in here.

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Darky821 t1_jdwf3kc wrote

If you were intoxicated and under coercion, you might be able to overturn the charges. Talk to a lawyer and/or your credit card company.

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Arrasor t1_jdwf8dl wrote

Lol he would have to admit to buying drugs to get these people in trouble. Guess what happen when you buy something? You come into possession of said thing. There's no need to search for any physical drugs when he already confess to being in possession of drugs and then consuming it.

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Layne205 t1_jdwfgos wrote

I've been to Dallas a million times. Nothing like this ever happened. How about just stay out of shady, disgusting clubs? I know exactly where he was. You can tell just driving by that these are not classy places.

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LtButtermilch t1_jdwh3ep wrote

Just go to police and say you think they spiked your drink and pressured you. You don't have to tell that voluntarily took the drugs. It's to late to go to hospital to get tested. Would have been smart to immediately go to the hospital, get a test and file a report

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4_Legged_Duck t1_jdwoapd wrote

You're getting good advice and bad advice.

Find yourself a local lawyer, ask for a consultation to get options (some offer free consultations) and lay out the situation. Explain what you hope to get out of it (such as money back, strip club held accountable for predatory practices) etc and how to go about it.

There are a few options that can follow. The first would possibly be the lawyer sending a letter telling them to refund the money or issues will follow. Lawyer may get DEA and cops involved - guiding you through the process to protect you from blowback.

If you have any drugs in your possession, (car, home, etc) get rid of them before the cops get involved. Do not take any drugs until this process is over. Having been on drugs is a harder crime to prosecute, if any. Were you under the influence? Sure, did you purchase drugs? Yes, but this is also after the fact. Depending on how it's approached, your lawyer can protect you.

But the first step in this is to contact a lawyer, get official, non-reddit options on the table and guidance.

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j_blatto t1_jdwpjbs wrote

In order for an agreement to be legally binding, there must be "consideration". Consideration is not whether or not they were kind to you. It's a legal term that means a good or service was exchanged for a monetary instrument.

You cannot commit to consideration while not being in your right mind (intoxicated) or under duress.

Dispute those charges. The strip club is out maybe $300. You're out $10,000 if you don't.

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LadyBug_0570 t1_jdwr6t3 wrote

Im just saying how the cc might see it. They weren't there and all they know is he authorized it. Otherwise anyone who makes a crazy purchase on their credit card can say, "I was drunk/high/had a gun to my head when I made the purchase" and get a chargeback and cc companies are not in the business of losing money because you willingly impaired yourself.

Now, the strip club? They knew what they were doing. He needs to go to an attorney before the police for that one.

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LadyBug_0570 t1_jdxuxim wrote

Which is probably why the strip club didn't put the charge as "$9,000 for cocaine off of a stripper's ass" and instead charged it as "service fees". And then videotaped him authorizing the charges after having his high ass calling the cc company authorizing the charges (he mentions this in the comments).

Soooo... prove your statement in a court of law against the credit card company that fronted him the money to conduct his illegal activity that he know owes money to.

The cc company is covered on their end with plausible deniability, especially since none of them were there. And they're not the ones who paid for titties or drugs, so guess what? That falls to OP. He charged it.

But let's pretend the cc company doesn't pay out because what he did was illegal. How does that cancel out the debt to the strip club owners? And are these the kind of guys who'll sue or break your legs to get their money?

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HurrySad4253 OP t1_jdxxx98 wrote

Yeah, I don't see any way out of the charge. They covered all their bases, and we fell right into their trap. There will definitely be some financial damage here, and I will be paying for it for a while. We just keep telling ourselves at least we're home, alive, and not in jail. I just hope that someone sees this and thinks twice about going out to these clubs because this stuff happens. We're not partyers, we don't go out and do this stuff, we're both recently single it was my birthday and we just wanted to have a good time. If it happens to us, it can happen to anyone. Heck, half the people in this thread keep telling me to go watch the movie Hustlers. I might watch it eventually but the last thing I want to do right now is keep thinking about this whole thing.

I appreciate all the help guys . Just be careful out there <3

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LadyBug_0570 t1_jdxzc24 wrote

You really should follow the advice of those who said talk to an attorney and not the cops. You may not be able to get your money back, but you might be able to get this club shut down. Could help the next guy whose thinking like you did.

I mean you could TRY challenging it with your credit card company, but it probably won't do any good.

> We just keep telling ourselves at least we're home, alive, and not in jail.

That really is the most important thing. You're safe at home and not in jail. Or on a gurney in the morgue.

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ShinjukuAce t1_jdy9n10 wrote

You were legally intoxicated and not in a position to consent to the charges, and the club knew that. They tried to get you to take the drugs as part of a credit card scam. You should absolutely see a lawyer and see what you can do. I would imagine the club would rather refund the charges than get raided and charged with serious drug and fraud crimes.

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drakon_us t1_jdyxpvq wrote

>no such crime as having previously used drugs. Not in Texas anyway

willfully consuming drugs constitutes possession. A confession can negate the need for physical evidence. Follicle testing and receipts can be used to verify the drug and location.

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Rockytana t1_jdyym9l wrote

I have, they won’t be able to produce one and he can fight the charges. You have to provide an itemized receipt, this is his out. If they say it’s for bottles, then you request the camera footage of the service.

Know how to protect your self from these type of scams

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Rockytana t1_jdyynyu wrote

I have, they won’t be able to produce one and he can fight the charges. You have to provide an itemized receipt, this is his out. If they say it’s for bottles, then you request the camera footage of the service.

Know how to protect your self from these type of scams

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j_blatto t1_je0wgym wrote

I'm not sure on CC law. I negotiate contracts for a living. A contract can't be legally binding under certain circumstances such as duress (used car salesman refusing to give you back your keys to force you to sign) or if you're not in a right state of mind.

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LaboratoryGenius t1_je8hsdl wrote

I had this happen to me as well awhile back. Just made my own thread about it in r/legaladvice sub. Except no drugs. Just was intoxicated when I stepped into the club and lead to the back not knowing what was going on. Before I knew it, I had signed a contract for $2800 plus the girl scammed me $800 thru Venmo and cash out of my pocket. While they were still serving me, and I was intoxicated and not myself when signing.

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