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Godtiermasturbator t1_j1cf8sg wrote
He wouldn't survive a day under the "care" of the people he purports to admire
pastdense t1_j1cqgst wrote
I think KW needs to visit a neuropsychologist for an assessment.
nicholus_h2 t1_j1cvhl1 wrote
why? he already has a psychiatric diagnosis.
pastdense t1_j1d4opq wrote
okay treatment then, lol
NiTrOxEpiKz t1_j1eb5vu wrote
He stops treatment to make music since they inhibit his creativity. Before with Kim he would be on meds and then go off them, make an album and she would get him back on. Now he’s just being crazy 24/7. As Pete Davidson said, “take the meds kanye, I’m on them, they’re great.
nicholus_h2 t1_j1f2qy0 wrote
I mean, that's the rub, isn't it?
People with serious psychiatric illness oftentimes have poor insight and poor judgment, which is part of their illness. They don't always appreciate that anything is wrong, or might feel that something is wrong, but can't figure out why and the paranoia makes it hard to trust people / doctor's.
Paranoid delusions and/or delusions of grandeur are much harder to reality test for people who are, legitimately, at the top of the world.
shawn_overlord t1_j1cjh8d wrote
i believe evil only exists in people who cannot feel empathy. Kanye west is incapable of empathy
AClassyTurtle t1_j1crel1 wrote
I think that’s an oversimplification that we should avoid. Evil can exist in any person. I think most evil (at least on a larger/societal scale) is actually caused or enabled by people who truly believe their cause to be morally right, as well as people who are just plain ignorant/stupid. Germans under the nazis were certainly capable of empathy, but they were convinced it was the Jews who were evil and that they themselves were truly superior. I think the average Trump voter was capable of empathy, but they just didn’t see the reality of who he was because they were ignorant, either willfully or otherwise
Edit: I also think a major cause of evil is dehumanizing/“othering” certain people. I’m sure many in the KKK are capable of empathy, but they’ve successfully dehumanized other races to the point that they don’t see anything wrong with brutally killing them
shawn_overlord t1_j1d05cb wrote
well i guess the proper correction is to remove the word only and reword some things so it makes sense
FriskyRenga t1_j1ehd9t wrote
Until* it makes sense? Are you ok, grammar nazi?
shawn_overlord t1_j1f134a wrote
i made a typo fuck off
FriskyRenga t1_j1g18pp wrote
I genuinely thought you were correcting the other user… not your own comment… fully my bad dude lmao, I’m now the grammar nazi >:(
MorkSal t1_j1d2cew wrote
Everyone is harping on him but it seems pretty clear to me that he's having a mental health crisis.
Instead of getting help, or being forced to get help, he's being allowed in the spotlight, and everyone is lapping it up.
infamous-spaceman t1_j1d6pgl wrote
Being bipolar doesn't turn you into a Nazi though. He is going through a mental health crisis, but also he's a bigoted asshole.
sambull t1_j1dmlf7 wrote
Prosperity gospel on the other hand
Leaxe t1_j1ekh62 wrote
Being bipolar absolutely can turn you into a Nazi. It's stated pretty well here, separated from bipolar disorder:
> To continue perceiving extreme racism as normative and not pathologic is to lend it legitimacy. Clearly, anyone who scapegoats a whole group of people and seeks to eliminate them to resolve his or her internal conflicts meets criteria for a delusional disorder, a major psychiatric illness.
maelstron t1_j1g0kbi wrote
Seems like you still have to be racist for this to happen.
Leaxe t1_j1g1tcv wrote
Yeah, of course. I'm not saying Kanye isn't racist, just that it is pointless to acknowledge some parts of Kanye's mania as mental disorder, but not other parts. As I quoted, "anyone who scapegoats a whole group of people and seeks to eliminate them ... meets criteria for a delusional disorder".
MorkSal t1_j1dib75 wrote
True, could be both.
maelstron t1_j1g3i31 wrote
This has been a excuse for years and it isn't working anymore. Like seek help if it is the case
WeWersViKangZ t1_j1cjgcf wrote
Kanye is American, he doesn’t need Nazis from Germany to figure that out, we have the confederates here at home.
viaJormungandr t1_j1dhxjb wrote
They want to be the one wielding that kind of power. Putting them under the boot and trying to ground them down won’t suddenly make them feel bad for it happening to others, it will just vindicate their need to inflict pain on others and to have the power to do so with impunity.
The response is not “never again” it is “never again TO ME”.
pelasgian t1_j1eaveq wrote
>ding about similar circumstances in the book Night by Elie Wiesel. The brutality of the holocaust is something I find truly disturbing and yet I crave the knowledge. These stories are why we study History in our s
You're an idiot if you think Kanye is saying that he loves what the nazis did. He's saying he loves everyone.
Coffee_And_Bikes t1_j1fnlx2 wrote
Are you on drugs?
asday515 OP t1_j1cudvw wrote
Highly recommend starting from the beginning and giving her full story a listen. Its definitely worth watching all the way through.
Here's another interesting bit of info on her (from her Wikipedia page):
"[Her mother] Helene Weissman was forced into a group slated for a death camp; Gerda, deemed fit for work, was sent to a labor camp. As she and others boarded trucks, Gerda jumped out in a frantic effort to reunite with her mother. According to Weissmann Klein's account, Moshe Merin, head of the local Jewish Council Judenrat, threw her back in her truck, saying 'You are too young to die.'"
rangda t1_j1cxydr wrote
I only intended to watch the part you linked but watched til the end. What an ending too.
There’s something to be said about her and Klein finding lifelong love at the end of all that unimaginable grief and hardship.
I don’t usually watch Holocaust documentaries these days because they are just so heavy and brutal but it feels like occasionally checking in with this very very recent horror is good perspective.
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klavin1 t1_j1glfq7 wrote
I wish the current admins still gave a shit.
lingh0e t1_j1fknrb wrote
My 6th grade lit teacher read her book to the class. I'd heard of the holocaust before that, but I had never really heard an direct accounts of it. It made quite an impact on the entire class.
TheDeadlySquid t1_j1dh9c2 wrote
When I see documentaries like this it’s makes me so angry in this day and age when you have deniers and wannabe fascists.
Blockadiddy t1_j1ek2x0 wrote
Stories of the Holocaust also make me angry and tearing up because of the brutal injustice that has been put upon those poor people. Cannot stand that this is what humankind is capable of as well, despite all the good.
aboabro t1_j1exxgr wrote
Usually deniers are people trying to spread misinformation
Ac997 t1_j1fj7kr wrote
How can you take people that deny that the holocaust happened serious? Where are you even meeting these people? I’ve never met anyone that believes it never happened, if I did I wouldn’t be angry, I’d probably just feel bad for them considering they’re probably really stupid of might actually have something wrong with their head.
Go_easy_on_me_folks t1_j1fzo1t wrote
You should be angry. They're either fooled by someone intentionally spreading misinformation for antisemitic reasons, or they're intentially spreading it themselves. Either way it leads back to antisemitism and the belief that Jewish people are less than human. If that doesn't make you angry, it should.
thesnuggyone t1_j1gisif wrote
I honestly don’t get it. Do these people understand what Nazis were, and not care? Or are they ridiculous idiots who honestly don’t know what they did???
Fascism experiencing a resurgence in recent years hurts my brain. I can’t wrap my head around people preaching this evil.
For god sake, every year of my life from 4th grade on I had a Holocaust unit in school, read the personal accounts, saw the haunting photographs and videos….who makes it through childhood in the USA and winds up thinking they want to be a Nazi??
ThisIsNotAnAlias t1_j1hes4a wrote
If people believe that Sandy Hook victims were 'crisis actors', then you have no chance of making them believe any information that's 80 years old and does not fit their beliefs.
Imo Hollywood is to blame as well: in media, the Nazis were often portrayed as powerful enemies, a force to reckon with, while Nazi crimes against humanity were too shocking to show and only hinted at.
I don't know the exact reason why people identify with Nazis but I'd wager it's the same reason why people identify with storm troopers from Star Wars, an allegory to the SS.
It's deeply upsetting that we seemingly cannot learn the lessons we could learn from so much suffering.
TheWolfisGrey53 t1_j1fmuvj wrote
That's what gets me. Like it ain't even folks saying the Civil War or WW1 didn't happen. Saying a traceable, generational defining event not happening is beyond
Some people can be tracked on paper of thier trials and tribulations they suffered...
pcurve t1_j1deywk wrote
r.i.p. She passed away this spring.
Esposabella t1_j1ffbzq wrote
Now she rests in Paradise 🙌🏼
Furrywoodsman t1_j1c43c9 wrote
What were the words? Don’t really feel like seeing this. Too depressing.
asday515 OP t1_j1c672p wrote
He told her to go put her ski boots on despite it being a hot day in the middle of June. She didnt understand but did it anyways. The death march was in frigid temperatures so she was able to survive. There were, unfortunately, many girls in the march who were wearing sandals.
pinewind108 t1_j1cwtro wrote
Fwiw, ski boots at this time were essentially heavy leather hiking boots.
pcurve t1_j1det6o wrote
"those girls' toes broke off like twigs"... is how she described in the video. :(
ibekt t1_j1c78ac wrote
"Where are your ski boots?" He told her to put them on. It was June, but she did and she wore them for the 3 years she was in the camp. There were pictures of her parents and brother hidden in them. But what was important was that on the march she had boots on and other girls had sandals.
CDM2017 t1_j1c5cbc wrote
Also hoping to just read the words.
Gibletbiggot t1_j1cxxoq wrote
I remember reading about similar circumstances in the book Night by Elie Wiesel. The brutality of the holocaust is something I find truly disturbing and yet I crave the knowledge. These stories are why we study History in our society. It is imperative to do our best to never repeat the atrocities so many societies have committed, including our own.
monos_muertos t1_j1cyczk wrote
Repeat is inevitable. Humans gonna human.
Peter_deT t1_j1dasgx wrote
It took the Nazi a decade to build the institutions and the mind-set to carry out their program. It was deliberate and structured - even if it started on existing foundations. And while brutality is common (although not as common as the news would have us think), this form and scale are very rare. It can be avoided.
pyabo t1_j1fwmcj wrote
Yea it's only happened three or four times since then. /s
Gibletbiggot t1_j1d0mxg wrote
I know. We are just hairless apes. Our society has evolved rapidly but our minds are still almost exactly the same as they were in the bronze age. Brutality is part of us like anything else. I just hope we can make it less and less hearing these stories.
Fuckredditadmins117 t1_j1d7kia wrote
Stone age emotions, medieval beliefs and God-like technology many people can reach. That is a combination which will kill millions.
throwawayhyperbeam t1_j1e3yg3 wrote
Well put.
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Toast_Guard t1_j1dujjv wrote
Lazy, defeatist mentality. You don't have to try to make the world a better place if you're already a quitter. You don't have to contribute to society if at the end of the day you disregard all forms of humanitarian efforts because "lol humans gonna human".
IforgotwhatIwasdoing t1_j1ejzzm wrote
At this point in my life, if you're not a pessimist I assume you're a rube.
Toast_Guard t1_j1emepl wrote
I don't blame you for expecting the worst in society when you are actively contributing to the problem yourself. You're the pinnacle of a pseudointellectual.
Stay lazy and submissive; myself and many others have enough drive to pick up your slack.
IforgotwhatIwasdoing t1_j1equ92 wrote
Considering your ego, I highly doubt that.
likesleague t1_j1dxc83 wrote
A pessimistic view is that the evil stuff people do to each other in wars and genocides and so on is repeated precisely because it's how to effectively achieve the most basic goal in such situations. Get power and use it.
Ambitously_anxious t1_j1dkwjq wrote
Not long ago I read The Choice, autobiography by Edith Eger. She is also holocaust survivor. It's a horrible story yet full of hope, pain and survival.
2plus2equalscats t1_j1fcc2n wrote
Thanks for the recommendation. Just found it available digitally from my library.
Gibletbiggot t1_j1fexak wrote
It's short and intense. It's one of my all time favorite books. It's incredibly vivid and blunt in its brutality. Seen through the eyes of a child and told by the young adult who has to deal with that story. I couldn't stop reading it.
2plus2equalscats t1_j2fmzte wrote
Half way through and it’s great so far. Definitely intense, but very interesting. Thanks again for mentioning. I keep having to put it down for tasks but don’t want to.
Gibletbiggot t1_j2fnej0 wrote
I'm happy you are finding it to be a good read. It's a story more people should know.
thesnuggyone t1_j1gjgzo wrote
I don’t want to know the stories, I’ve read/watched so many of them over the years…but I always read/watch anyway. To me it feels like, the people in these stories, who lived through such deep deep darkness, were powerless in the face of a truly gigantic evil that stripped everything away from them. The least I can do is not look away. Hear it, be a witness for them.
I wasn’t there, but I am horrified by what happened. We should carry our horror, so we can reject any hint of that kind of dehumanization wherever, wherever we are able.
ImplicitEmpiricism t1_j1culqb wrote
There is some joy in the end of this documentary, as Gerda’s work camp was liberated by a Jewish American GI who she later fell in love with and married.
BSB8728 t1_j1defq9 wrote
At the time of her rescue, she felt less than human, having been taught by the Nazis that Jews were vermin. She was emaciated and filthy and covered in lice when Kurt Klein held out his hand to help her into his Jeep, treating her like a lady. She thought she had to be honest with him, so she said, "I am a Jew."
He said, "So am I."
mcivey t1_j1eh5c6 wrote
Idk if that’s a direct quote from her, but if that is what she said that is both heartbreaking yet beautiful
EDIT: something with autocorrect made it confusing. The sentence should make sense now
BSB8728 t1_j1f9iv7 wrote
That's what she wrote in her first memoir, All But My Life.
dltl t1_j1dt244 wrote
Read her book recounting her experience during the Holocaust. The perspective from a female is even more horrific. Her book is amazingly well written and hard to put down. All But My Life by Gerda Weissman. I like it more than Night, Diary of Anne Frank and Maus, though they all have their place.
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JustVGames t1_j1dw9x4 wrote
This is why nazi like ideology has to be fought tooth and nail, by any and all means necesarry.
Count3D t1_j1dmwfh wrote
I met another survivor 17 years ago, a woman named Bronia Sonnenschein. Her story stuck with me... she survived meeting Josef Mengele, the Dresden firebombs and the death march. If she hadn't told us all this, I never would've guessed. Her disposition was so sunny and pleasant. Remarkably strong woman.
XaulXan t1_j1cmxfn wrote
she came to my high school after we read book . Really incredible story
bad_card t1_j1e2oeh wrote
And here in America, there are people that fly the Nazi flag. The depravities of humanity knows no limits. So sad.
jagracer2021 t1_j1em8zm wrote
Read the Gulag Archipelegio by Solgenistkin. Russian Labour Camps. Still going strong in Siberia even today, eliminating Ukrainian people.
JonnySnowflake t1_j1f1bvp wrote
Make sure you have the whole thing though. I was unaware that I only have the first of three volumes, and for some reason it's a hard to find book. Mine ended while they were still on the train
no-palabras t1_j1gd0bl wrote
A brilliant mind to write it. I’ve only read the abridged version, but very very stark and revealing of Stalin’s regime. It’s not so widely known what he did to his own country’s people. It’s as unbelievable as OP.
xtrsports t1_j1ecpit wrote
If you are young and havent had much exposure to the accounts of WW2 or the atrocities committed against the jewish community then a good place to start would be any of Elie Wiesels books. My personal recommendation is to start with Night. Books such as Night, Dawn, and stories from people like Gerda are what drive home the point of what they went through and that these were real people who lost everything and not some grand conspiracy as clowns like Kanye try to spew.
asday515 OP t1_j1eyytl wrote
Thanks for the recommendation, I think someone else mentioned that book as well. I'm gonna see if my library has it
Jynx2501 t1_j1gnkjh wrote
So.etimes I read a post title and think, "Ya know what? Im good. Im tired of being bummed out." This is one of those times.
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BetterthanGarbage t1_j1f3w3d wrote
I watched the whole documentary and read books about her for a class and it’s so depressing to hear her story
Beard341 t1_j1fm72r wrote
You could hear the survivor’s remorse in her voice. It’s heartbreaking.
ManWithYourPlan t1_j1fxh9l wrote
How old was she at the time she was in the camps?
Amazing story
keepyeepy t1_j1uwwxu wrote
Far out
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louwish t1_j1dzkqr wrote
I can’t imagine what this woman, and all of the others who suffered under the holocaust had to go through. I wonder have any survivors spoken out about the treatment of Palestinians in Israel? I always imagined survivors would be the first to speak up about the bulldozing of homes and forced evictions and other mistreatment, but I have only heard of academics criticizing Israel’s treatment of Palestinians.
WhereDaHinkieFlair t1_j1ca3x7 wrote
Fuck the Nazis. Somebody should make Kanye and other idiots like him spend 1 day in the inhumane treatment their favorite fascists inflicted on others, and I bet they would change their tune.