SereneDreams03

SereneDreams03 t1_jedhtho wrote

The employer would need cause to drug test for most jobs. https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=357-37-200

It is definitely not meaningless. Even if some companies try and get around the rules like you are suggesting, it would be a whole lot more hassle for companies to come up with some reasoning to send one of their newly hired employees to go and get a drug test on their first day. Then, once again, come up with some bs reasoning to fire them without cause. That sounds like a recipe for a lawsuit to me.

I'm not saying it will never happen, but I definitely do not see it being as prevalent as pre-employment drug screening is currently.

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SereneDreams03 t1_jeb6wag wrote

This is good to hear. I rarely smoke myself, but marijuana can stay in your system for weeks, and employers shouldn't be able to restrict employment just because you may have smoked a joint on your personal time two weeks ago. Imagine how many people would fail pre-employment screening if they did this for alcohol, and it is a far more dangerous drug than weed.

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SereneDreams03 t1_jbqknpo wrote

Reply to comment by penguin_616 in ISPs in Colfax, WA? by penguin_616

That part of the state is pretty sparsely populated in general, and the town has less than 3,000 people. Maybe not technically rural, but you're pretty far from any major cities.

It's only 20 minutes from Pullman, though, which is a nice college town, and the area is beautiful.

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SereneDreams03 t1_jadyt9t wrote

If you want to see the beaches or the rainforest, than it will likely be very wet in April. If you want to go up to Hurricane Ridge or some of the other higher elevations, there will likely still be a lot of snow on the ground.

It's still a very nice time to visit, and the crowds aren't nearly as bad, but if you don't want to get wet, I'd advise trying for Jul-Sep.

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SereneDreams03 t1_j8koct2 wrote

Interesting, that would be by far the cheapest I've heard for stand-alone LTC insurance. I wonder if that's just the cost of the rider. The lowest cost I've heard is $79 a month. And like I said, it depends on how much you make, $25 a month is just the average cost for Washington residents.

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SereneDreams03 t1_j7wyf14 wrote

>That is the 2nd time you have made assumptions , and it bit you. Maybe stop doing that?

Listen, I tried to be polite and learn more about the Oregon system in particular because that is what this article is proposing to expand to Washington. I've recycled in many different areas, but i was curious about the particulars of their systme. But it seems like I know more about that system than you, and since you've been condescending as fuck the whole time, and since you don't even live in Washington anymore, you can fuck off.

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SereneDreams03 t1_j7ws34z wrote

>I live in Detroit.

Then why are you commenting about the Oregon bottle dropoff? That is misleading as fuck. You are talking about a completely different system there.

>More than once, I've gone to the store, and the kiosk isn't open. Now you need groceries and you've got a car full of trash.

In Oregon, you can just drop it off in a blue bag if you dont want to wait for a kiosk https://bottledrop.com/locations/?question=7977&ans=7980&text=Gresham&latLng_lng=-122.4356657&latLng_lat=45.5044715

>Seriously, take the L and trust a primary source.

How are you a primary source if you don't even live in Oregon?

> have that here and pay for it

In many parts of Oregon, they don't, though. Plus, they have less material that needs to be picked up.

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SereneDreams03 t1_j7wq55g wrote

>No evidence it wouldn't be worse with the proposed law. There is clear evidence Oregon does a better job than Washington at recycling https://productstewardship.net/news/recovery-and-recycling-rates-oregon-and-washington

https://www.columbian.com/news/2018/oct/07/comparing-washington-oregon-oversight-on-recycling/

>There would also be huge backlash adding further to grocery costs yo already high inflation as well free time.

Yeah, im sure there would be backlash, because people always seem to resist change. However, if you factor in the cost of processing fees and pickup costs, most people would actually be saving money with the deposit system.

It is $9.17 a month for recycling pickup in my area. With Oregons system, I'd pay an extra 10 cents per container, but I'd get that money back when I returned them. So I'd be saving $9.17 a month.

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SereneDreams03 t1_j7wn0x8 wrote

The problem is that so much of the material that gets thrown into recycling bins in Washington doesn't actually get recycled. It's either contaminated or simply can't be recycled.https://ecology.wa.gov/Waste-Toxics/Reducing-recycling-waste/Strategic-policy-and-planning/Contamination-reduction Oregon's system has its own problems, but it at least does a better job of achieving its purpose of actually recycling materials.

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SereneDreams03 t1_j7wmei1 wrote

>You've openly stated you've never returned cans/bottles, so you're not really qualified to opine on the subject matter as it pertains to the practicality of the experience.

I wasn't offering my opinion on the practicality of the experience. That is why I specifically said I was trying to learn more about the system. It's not an entirely foreign concept to me. I've recycled in other areas, just not specifically in Oregon. And as I stated before, I appreciate the insight into their system, no need for the condescension.

>Curbside pickup is an exceptional value for dollar at $9.17/month.

I still don't see how this is preferable, I live in an urban area, not rural like yourself, and I don't get groceries delivered so I could just drop off my containers when I went to the store right? And if I didn't care about getting the deposit back, I'd still be spending less than the $9.17 a month I currently pay, and wouldn't have to deal with the hassle of the machines.

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SereneDreams03 t1_j7wghld wrote

That is a good point, but the math still works out that it would be cheaper to pay a 5-10 cent deposit, and return the containers than the current system where I pay 9 bucks a month for pickup. $9.17 would get me 92 to 183 containers per month if I didn't return them. That is far more than I currently use, and if I did return the containers I would be compensated for the deposit.

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SereneDreams03 t1_j7w7ic3 wrote

You were the one complaining about the can return, I was just suggesting an alternative option.

The current rate for recycling pickup in my area is $9.17 a month, so if I could just drop it off locally for free, I'd be saving money. Or even better, wait in line and get paid for my containers.

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SereneDreams03 t1_j7w4f4x wrote

I've seen the machines, but no, I haven't done the bottle drop myself. It sounds like you can just get the blue bags and drop them off if you don't care about the deposit and don't want to deal with lines. And the limit of containers is 350 per day, which is far more than I use during my current recycling pickup time period of every 2 weeks. I could go months before collecting 350 containers.

As for the working and sanitary conditions, how is it different from a recycling center in Washington? Sounds like employee reviews are similar https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Bottledrop/reviews

https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Waste-Connections/reviews?fcountry=US&floc=Vancouver%2C+WA

I'm really not that familiar with the Bottledrop program in Oregon, so I appreciate the discussion. I'm definitely not sold on it, and it does seem to have some disadvantages and problems, but they also seem to do a better job in getting materials recycled. https://www.columbian.com/news/2018/oct/07/comparing-washington-oregon-oversight-on-recycling/

https://productstewardship.net/news/recovery-and-recycling-rates-oregon-and-washington

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