Submitted by Stephen_P_Smith t3_y6ut1m in Futurology
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Stephen_P_Smith OP t1_isrb098 wrote
Submission statement: I find the claim that AI can predict the future with 99% accuracy to be overly sensational, and in need of statistical benchmarking! But that is just my singular opinion, and I am wondering how other more sophisticated thinkers might react. Hence, this article was shared here. Cheers!
Phit_sost_3814 t1_isrc3n7 wrote
Then why post it?
[deleted] t1_isrc4bz wrote
I think that there is no information available but a claim. No link to the research, or even anything in the article backing that 99% number.
PM_ur_Rump t1_isrcb0j wrote
I think it's the Sun.
Astranoth t1_isrcylv wrote
Article is a mess. I can’t find any date stamps on when they tried this. Can’t find any details on how they got to 99%
Sensationalist click bait imo
NinjaLanternShark t1_isrd66p wrote
tl;dr:
> researchers at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Light in Germany asked the artificially intelligent software to predict how AI progressed.
> They did this by feeding the AI information from academic papers dating all the way back to 1994. [..] The AI was then asked to make predictions about how artificial intelligence has developed over the years based on the scientific studies it knew about it.
So given some body of research, forecast the future arc of developments in that field.
Achieving 99% accuracy is just a matter of framing the questions right.
WatchingUShlick t1_isrd6w2 wrote
Maybe National Enquirer would be a better source.
nasanu t1_isrdy1u wrote
>Achieving 99% accuracy is just a matter of framing the questions right.
Or in other words ask a bunch of crap, discard all the incorrect answers, then hold up the rest as proof of how accurate you are.
LabyrinthConvention t1_isre34n wrote
As a thinker, it's 100% for sure.
FuturologyBot t1_isre4ar wrote
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Stephen_P_Smith:
Submission statement: I find the claim that AI can predict the future with 99% accuracy to be overly sensational, and in need of statistical benchmarking! But that is just my singular opinion, and I am wondering how other more sophisticated thinkers might react. Hence, this article was shared here. Cheers!
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/y6ut1m/spooky_artificial_intelligence_found_to/isrb098/
Level-Infiniti t1_isresj2 wrote
yeah, article title makes it sound like the show Devs. worth a watch for those that haven't seen it
DatStankBooty t1_isrespb wrote
Really curious about my next bowel movement after chipotle.
NinjaLanternShark t1_isrex37 wrote
The concept of tuning your forecast to a desired accuracy is actually pretty interesting. For example, say you need a weather forecast that's 99% accurate. A meteorologist will then tell you how far into the future you can go. In this case it might be 10 or 15 minutes. It might sound silly to us but there's probably a use case for it.
I don't imagine the folks at the Max Planck institute are slouches, so I'm assuming there's a use case for scanning some literature and determining some outcome with 99% accuracy. It's probably not a very profound prediction, but again, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a perfectly reasonable use case.
chantsnone t1_isrf6f7 wrote
Loved devs. I’d love more things exploring that idea.
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ChronoPsyche t1_isrggbi wrote
No need for more sophisticated readers here. It's usually always safe to assume the Sun is a sensationalist pile of trash. Next time, see if you can find a more credible source reporting it first and then post it. If not, just leave it be. A lot of Redditors only look at the headline and will be misinformed by this.
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zeptillian t1_isrgzu1 wrote
I can't download a PDF from your fucking desktop Charlotte.
I'm just going to have to assume you are as bad at interpreting studies are you are at using hyperlinks.
Monster-Zero t1_isrhswm wrote
That is exactly what happened. Now I know that Charlotte is running a Windows computer and that she downloaded a file from… somewhere. Presumably about something.
Quality reporting.
Griffle78 t1_isri0yy wrote
More like Max Headroom Institute…am I right?
__The__Anomaly__ t1_isri1jj wrote
Oh great Oracle. What time will it be at noon tomorrow?
meeklys t1_isri9e9 wrote
I don’t know you but I love you for the delivery of your comment alone. First time I’ve laughed out loud in a long while, so thanks for that.
minnesota420 t1_isri9k2 wrote
What time will it be any time from now?
ltethe t1_isrigif wrote
It will be then.
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NinjaLanternShark t1_isrijpx wrote
Hmmm.
JustWatch says Max Headroom is in Tubi.
I wonder if it's aged well or not.
Rodentsnipe t1_isrivrh wrote
link to the paper referenced in the article lmao
https://users/charlotte/Downloads/Predicting_the_Future_of_AI_with_AI_High-quality_l.pdf
icefire555 t1_isrj04e wrote
Yeah, I'm 100% sure we would have never learned about it if it was able to predict the stock market with that accuracy.
GloriaVictis101 t1_isrj3w5 wrote
This article somehow has more ads than words in it. Bravo ‘The Sun’
Arikaido777 t1_isrj7ky wrote
it knows which horse wins the race but it wont tell you which race
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hyrulae t1_isrjx40 wrote
When will then be now?
Lankuri t1_isrk3wm wrote
journalistic integrity be DAMNED i need to write an ARTICLE about this
Stephen_P_Smith OP t1_isrkff5 wrote
I suspect this is the same paper:
meetmyfriendme t1_isrki0g wrote
Probably not surprising as it would have included our biases to some degree. I wonder if it could then be asked to predict something outside of that in order to direct scientists to a novel research direction.
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Shibbystix t1_isrkjsq wrote
Let me lay it out for you.
Ahem......We as a species.......
Are stupid and easy to predict.
pina_koala t1_isrkm7q wrote
This is probably the trashiest, lamest Sun article I've ever come across and that's saying a LOT
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Stephen_P_Smith OP t1_isrlde2 wrote
Here is the same story in AIM (Analytics India Magazine): Predicting the Future of AI with AI
Dameyeyo t1_isrlfxg wrote
I can see explosive diarrhea in the near future for you Sir , if you eat to much of chipotle hot sauce I can also see your hole getting red.
MKT_Pro t1_isrlmr0 wrote
Bloody of course. Hope you have some chipotlaway handy.
Veearrsix t1_isrluo7 wrote
Seriously, fantastic show. Fun to see Nick Offerman in something a little different for him.
[deleted] t1_isrmxx8 wrote
That is a false oracle, I am The Oracle, ask me the time.
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robbytron2000 t1_isrnggu wrote
I can predict the future as it unfolds
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komark- t1_isro5kt wrote
THE TIME SHALL BE BOUT TREE FITTY
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UNODIR t1_isrp5mh wrote
Future can not be predicted because it is not determined. You can foresight (not forecast) different futures.
So whatever this is - it reminds me of the kraken that predicted football games. You can believe it if you want.
Turd-In-Your-Pocket t1_isrq80v wrote
From the article: Fortunately, the AI didn't predict a deadly apocalypse or a robot takeover.
That’s exactly what an apocalyptic murderous AI would say.
minnesota420 t1_isrqaup wrote
make an assessment
Primus_Pilus1 t1_isrqcf4 wrote
Soon.
This is now now. That was then.
passingconcierge t1_isrqmly wrote
All this article tells you is that it is possible to frame a question that you know the answer to and then to have a statistical system extract the answer you first thought of from a data set. That is more a caution about the problems of taking AI systems uncritically at face value and perhaps the need for double blinding in predictive systems.
Read_ity t1_isrqnn1 wrote
Just tell me who to bet on Sundays and we’re good
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NorthCatan t1_isrro0d wrote
"Computer, will the sun rise tomorrow?"
intellectualdespot t1_isrryf0 wrote
Sweet reference
oniony t1_isrs1bq wrote
I think you meant to write SELECT systimetamp FROM dual;
ashakar t1_isrs42z wrote
Nothing ever will because you have too many irrational actors.
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GregTheMad t1_isrt3lj wrote
How many? 8 billion? That's not much when it comes to computing. Most of them probably can even be grouped together. Depending on what you ask maybe only a handful is needed, like world leaders. The only challenge is getting the model right, and feeding it good data.
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ashakar t1_isrtkkv wrote
I was specifically referring to the stock market. Shopping and ad algorithms already work pretty damn good at predicting what to show you.
WoodenSporkAudio t1_isrtskk wrote
How else do you make money from worthless articles? Outrage or fear mongering with downright misleading or even totally false representations of any facet of any topic, of course!
ManOfTheMeeting t1_isrtvdr wrote
You just need to find a way to calculate 99% accuracy based on two sentences.
harry3harry3harry t1_isru0lg wrote
So this is how tech-savvy Charlotte Edwards, their Assistant Technology and Science Editor, appears to be. Food for thought...
icefire555 t1_isrug5t wrote
Yeah. well even if it was 75% accurate at predicting the stock market it would be a secret till death.
fuckswithboats t1_isrugkv wrote
Wish they had stretched that show out longer. The premise was delicious
Swimbikerunengineer t1_isruhjr wrote
Who am I going to marry? Lol
theminglepringle t1_isrukcr wrote
That’s easy you just have to have enough money own a lot of shares in a company sell them all watch as the price plummet’s because everyone one else who own shares in it get scared then buy back your shares or more for a lower price rinse and repeat
ashakar t1_isrul8o wrote
Black swan events would still fuck you. They are already using AI bots to make trades.
ZedTT t1_isrv445 wrote
Holy shit that's hilarious.
I'm no longer mad about how stupid the title of the article is I'm just glad I've been given this absolute piece of gold.
Atlantic0ne t1_isrv6lk wrote
I wish that too.
tucci007 t1_isrvq1z wrote
> feeding the AI information from academic papers dating all the way back to 1994
this is how it will become self-aware
tucci007 t1_isrvtbl wrote
feed it all the information in existence about chickens, then everything about roads
then ask it, why did the chicken cross the road
InnerOuterTrueSelf t1_isrwkak wrote
- The Foundation
starfleetdropout6 t1_isrxpzb wrote
"We" would never know. The elite would keep it a secret to enrich themselves.
starfleetdropout6 t1_isrxu12 wrote
Alexa just told me that the sun will rise at 7 AM tomorrow. Astonishing.
VaultdBoy t1_isry4j3 wrote
https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.00881 I found this, with the percentage mentioned in the "AI based solutions" part So the pure ML results are pretty low compared to the 99% accuracy, which is achieved with mixed ML and Hand Crafted methods
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smokecat20 t1_isryiae wrote
Can it predict the lottery numbers? I need to win before the collapse.
bigboyeTim t1_isrylfr wrote
"ARTIFICIAL intelligence was asked to predict the future and was right over 9 per cent of the time, according to new research."
stargazer1Q84 t1_isryzze wrote
That's a terrible headline and I'm disappointed in this sub for giving it exposure.
Sonamdrukpa t1_iss8hiw wrote
If you could get 50.1% your grandchildren would be buying islands in the Caribbean for their grandchildren
OliverSparrow t1_ist33so wrote
To quote the famous remark: "If you're so smart, how come you ain't rich?" If thisd fatuous headlien was even vaguely correct, the owners of this device would be cackling al the way to the bank. Instead, they write feeble press releases.
throwawaythepanda99 t1_isuvob4 wrote
I wonder how well a machine can understand this question.
tucci007 t1_isv8a0z wrote
I love pure speculative science
Lorkhanic t1_isxn2kd wrote
Whale games
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its_coo_baby t1_israjv7 wrote
Like day-of-the-week predictions or like lottery numbers?