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DiscoDeadhead t1_iz6lwy3 wrote

They’ve been sitting there since a guy got shot at that intersection

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Mxuw OP t1_iz6lzx1 wrote

Shit how long ago was that

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OldBayOnEverything t1_iz6m7mp wrote

That was the squeegee boy case

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/baltimore-banner-shows-final-moments-of-deadly-altercation-between-timothy-reynolds-squeegee-workers/

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Mxuw OP t1_iz6mf1w wrote

Oh shit that was there? I could have sworn they’ve been on that intersection before July

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PotentialScallion7 t1_iz6sp1o wrote

I drive by there frequently and there hasn’t always been a cop there like there is now. Was a cop frequently there-yes. But not like there is now which is basically all times. The day of that shooting before it happened a police officer made an arrest on that street.

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greggsbenton t1_iz6n2ya wrote

I’ve seen a cop sitting there for the past year, I don’t think it’s because of the shooting that happened in July. It was probably because ppl tend to run through the lights there

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maiios t1_iz6nvf8 wrote

You think cops do traffic enforcement?

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greggsbenton t1_iz7e02h wrote

Lmaoooo it’s to help the person who gets hit after💀

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billydrivesavic t1_iz96t7k wrote

lol right whenever I see someone pulled over in the city I’m like “what the fuck could that person have done to get pulled over” I see cops treat red lights like stop signs all the time

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stephiereffie t1_iz9b76j wrote

>“what the fuck could that person have done to get pulled over”

BPD still does traffic enforcement,but probably not for your race / socio economic status.

Poor black folks in Baltimore get pulled over all the time

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jupitaur9 t1_iz710ql wrote

There were squeegees there before the shooting, and there were concerns about squeegee violence and theft before then.

It’s a chokepoint for a large percentage of the traffic coming into the city. Visitors come through there. So it is a good place for police to make themselves known.

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archenemy_43 t1_iz7uqkt wrote

I have a friend that’s BCPD; cops in the city are given orders to post up at specific intersections during specific hours for the sole reason to create a presence.

It doesn’t matter if a car flies through that intersection at 130 mph, they’re instructed to stay put.

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drimgere t1_iz7tskc wrote

Cops don't ticket people for running reds here.

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f11tn88ss t1_izamc3c wrote

uh yeah they do. I got a ticket for turning right on a red with a no turn on red sign. cop made a uturn, hit his lights and sped down on me. he was like wow, right in front of me, you do that. was i wrong? yes. do i see more flagrant traffic violations every day in front of cops in which motorist don't get pulled over? yes. is the cop that pulled me over the same one that lets other motorist do whatever? unknown lol. but yeah it does still happen. this was on the alameda, making a turn right turn onto 33rd.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_iz6s8zi wrote

I see the cop car or truck there every single day. It kills me that they are being used to babysit the people who do the squeegees instead of banning the practice and giving those guys jobs with the city.

Those folks get more protection than people who go out here and work honest jobs where they don't have to annoy others to make a living.

It's ridiculous!

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Mildred_RatchedRN t1_iz8468y wrote

Those people have zero interest in doing the things that are required by legitimate employers.

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Velghast t1_iz99h9h wrote

There's a lot of jobs available by legit employers in Baltimore but honestly after talking with one of the squeegee kids it sounds like they make a lot more money than possible at a 9:00 to 5:00 and with very flexible hours and they can just quit whenever they want to and come back whenever they want.

I was talking to one kid and he said he was pulling at least 150 bucks a day.

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snaxfordinner t1_izahtro wrote

Good retirement and pension plan also

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Velghast t1_izbkp3j wrote

My company like many cut pensions about 5 years back. Honestly if I could find a decent company to work for that offered a generous retirement package I would take it

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izbuj2z wrote

You also have to factor in that they aren't paying any taxes either. Imagine how much more you would be bringing home if you didn't have taxes taken out of your check each pay period.

Then imagine having that money and not having to pay rent, not having to pay for food and not having to pay for medical care either or and no car insurance.

So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand WHY they do it.

The problem is that the fact that it's ALLOWED in the first place.

Someone has to be benefiting by pandering to these folks and until that person is properly addressed the status quo will absolutely continue.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_iz85yi2 wrote

Oh I agree with you completely but at the very least it couldn't be said that there are no jobs for them available.

Now to be more positive, let's say there are some young men that legitimately want to work to provide for their families? Then, at the very least they would be given the opportunity to do so which I am all for.

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RevRagnarok t1_izbeemc wrote

> I see the cop car or truck there every single day. It kills me that they are being used to babysit the people who do the squeegees instead of banning the practice and giving those guys jobs with the city.

"Had us in the first half; not gonna lie."

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izc8yif wrote

Yeah it's a real shame. It kind of reminds me of when there would be crime mob that would go to a restaurant or other place of business and extort them for "protection fees".

In this case it's the ENTIRE city. A group of teenagers are able to dictate the policy of an entire city.

Let that sink in for a moment.

Add to that people in this very subreddit who's needle is stuck on them being folks whose brains aren't fully developed so ”they can't really help being armed and dangerous. After all, they are the product of their environment."

Are you serious?

Even the Bible says that "foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child". But it doesn't stop there with that TRUE statement.... It goes on to say....

"But the rod of DISCIPLINE shall drive it far away from him". Proverbs 22:15.

Well what does the word "discipline" mean?

  1. Training expected to produce a specific character or pattern of behavior, especially training that produces moral or mental improvement.

  2. Control obtained by enforcing compliance or order.

Please tell me which one of these is being done both to deal with this current issue and or to solve various problems we have in this city?

No discipline at home, the school system fails them, the politicians fail them, virtually everyone fails them that are in fact ADULTS and whose brains are fully developed. So what's their excuse?

Let's go back to that first definition of discipline. Wouldn't that include holding people accountable for their own actions? Why is it that these kids have such a low set of expectations put upon them?

Tell me that's not messed up!

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Mildred_RatchedRN t1_izhw39t wrote

It's been decided by a large segment of the community and political class that criminal enforcement against these people constitutes racism (with the political consequences that follow from that).

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izhx9e7 wrote

Yeah, I'm aware of that and it's a real shame that there is such a lack of accountability actively being enabled from within.

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Ok_Ad8609 t1_iz805p6 wrote

The OP knows this. They are trolling.

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Mxuw OP t1_izax3b2 wrote

No shit I know about the case but they’ve been there since before July when it happened

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420EdibleQueen t1_iz769ao wrote

This is the area the driver/squeegee shooting happened. When the cops started sitting there I wondered why that corner and not all the other places people got killed in the city, and when you check the rent in that building you get your answer

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Jenfer1322 t1_iz97n2l wrote

This is the correct answer. The high rent building.

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Bun_Bunz t1_iz9tp20 wrote

Yup, 100% that and not the fact that 395 dumps right into the city there, that harbor place and the science center, major tourist spots are right across the street, or that Camden yards is just behind, or that the convention center is there. It's 414 light street... that's why they're there???? Grow up with this shitty commentary. It isn't helpful

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izbnqsv wrote

Why can't it be both? That building wouldn't be in Sandtown would it? How about Middle East, Berea? Old town? I don't think so

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TheCaptainDamnIt t1_iz6mcg4 wrote

“I’ve always wondered”

Cops only been stationed there a few months.

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Mxuw OP t1_iz6mqik wrote

Well damn my mistake, I could’ve sworn they’ve been here a year now

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TheCaptainDamnIt t1_iz6tosi wrote

No worries, just badly poking a little fun at that title that made it seem like this has been something you've been wondering about since childhood, lol.

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Ok_Ad8609 t1_iz8039e wrote

Yep, it is definitely your “mistake” (putting it in air quotes because I do not believe for one moment that it was an actual mistake).

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Mxuw OP t1_izaxgla wrote

Why are you such a pompous asshole lol

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theonetruedavid t1_iz76wjv wrote

I walk by this cop car multiple days a week to get to/from work. I, an average Baltimore resident in the L, have alerted the police to issues with traffic lights on multiple occasions since July, the kinds of issues you could easily see from inside the vehicle, so they’re clearly not doing traffic enforcement. The police are there for one reason and one reason only: to avoid (or deter or maybe just delay the city from) another high-profile murder involving a squeegee worker at a major intersection that would force the city’s hand and force the city to police behavior that realistically will not stop until larger systemic changes are made and implemented by the city government.

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strawberitadaydream t1_iz75fmh wrote

I believe it was done to discourage squeegy-ing but dem boiz still be out there sometimes, even chatting with the cops.

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ParoxysmAttack t1_iz95870 wrote

I’d rather see the cop casually chatting with the squeegee kid (as much as I detest squeegee-ing) than beating the shit out of the kid.

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strawberitadaydream t1_iz9wx0h wrote

Yeah I really wish there was a line between not doing anything at all and beating the shit out of a kid when it comes to policing. We just don't have the technology.

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DfcukinLite t1_iz6uyt2 wrote

Because that’s a squeeze corner. My office is right next to this building and they are there everyday

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RL_Mutt t1_iz6q70b wrote

I wonder why there’s a cop on the corner of Charles and E. Mt Royal ave every night when I’ve witnessed no less than 4 people run the red while making a left from the right lane in the past month.

Useless.

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to the person who responded to this comment with “they’re there for crime not traffic violations” and deleted it:

  1. Running a red light can have pretty horrible repercussions when it occurs at a busy intersection with students and other people crossing Charles Street all the time. Especially at night.

  2. If you think putting the lights on, pulling through an intersection and giving someone a ticket would magically open up the flood gates from crime to occur on the other side of the intersection, I have a bridge to sell you.

  3. Picking and choosing what rules and/or laws you enforce is exactly what makes people feel entitled to do it in the first place. Traffic enforcement works in several ways, one of which is deterrence.

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planetarylaw t1_iz7829l wrote

Ah yes the old "Baltimore left" I call it. My favorite though is when at the red light you see the driver make a right turn then immediately a u turn then another right to effectively avoid the red light.

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RL_Mutt t1_iz79p5v wrote

Ah yes, the code of honor. I won’t run a red light but I’ll make a right on red, hook a u-turn and go through a green light. Beautiful.

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handleinvalid t1_iz6nr58 wrote

Could also be to actively prevent motorists from going straight from the leftmost right-turn lane instead of turning onto conway…

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nesto92 t1_iz7sam2 wrote

What exactly are they doing there besides wasting taxpayer dollars is the real question.

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Mxuw OP t1_iz6lwfj wrote

There’s not much foot traffic there unless it’s game day, well at least compared to other parts of down town so I can’t image it’s deterring much crime lol

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TerranceBaggz t1_iz78b26 wrote

Yeah they designed that intersection to minimize foot traffic and push cars through as fast as possible. They removed a crosswalk iirc. :-/

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DownyOcean t1_iz93o58 wrote

It’s just a way to get mega overtime. Baltimore has the Drop Program. It averages the last 3 years of compensation as your retirement money so they let somebody close to retirement sit in the car for OT hours.

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Valstwo t1_iz9y19w wrote

Well, the murder that took place there and all...

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Signal_13 t1_izagb5g wrote

There are BPD overtime details at various intersections across the city to babysit the Squeegee Boys. This is probably one of them.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izbm1bp wrote

Yes, and I totally disagree with that approach. Once someone died I figured that was going to be a wrap for that activity but NO!

Someone dies and instead of it getting shut down you try to negotiate with these folks as it they are in any position to make demands? I thought these were children?

Children don't need to be ripping and running the streets. They need to be with with their parents. If their parents aren't giving them the proper care for whatever reason then they need case workers to check on them and get them the proper resources to try to address those issues.

But to say to them "Oh you want to wash windows and harass people in the process because you don't want a real job? That's ok, we'll just give you money to not do that ok?

What kind of message are you sending to the young people when you allow them to call the shots like that?

No. As the adult, you set the rules and if rules aren't followed then consequences are in order. That's the way to dignify people and help people to be elevated, not to just pander to a bunch of folks that are causing a whole lot of drama.

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Signal_13 t1_izboe2z wrote

Totally agree. It's a waste of resources. My niece was recently assaulted by them on President St. Squeegee Boys need to go sooner rather than later.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izc9ugt wrote

Oh goodness, sorry to hear that. I hope she is OK. That group is up there pretty often and I have seen police on the intersection of Pratt and President St but they aren't there as often as at Conway and Light.

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Signal_13 t1_izcd6b4 wrote

She's ok. Two of them smacked her in the head with their squeegees when she told them that she didn't have any cash. I had warned her not to ever roll down her window for them, but it apparently fell on deaf ears. She's here for work from California and this is another world to her. She's learning...

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noseltzie t1_iz7aygi wrote

A cop car has been there since the 4th of July shooting, unrelated to the squeegee incident. They absolutely do not enforce anything traffic related. The cop cars for the squeegee-ers sit up at Charles and Conway where they actually do the squeegeeing, but also enforce nothing

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NikkiRocker t1_iz89nfi wrote

Because of the squeegee killing that happened there.

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lpycb42 t1_iz8pmtf wrote

Squeegee Shooting.

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aresef t1_izaux04 wrote

A couple months ago, a driver played stupid games and went at squeegee workers with a baseball bat. One of the workers was carrying and fatally shot him. He was 14 at the time and was rung up on murder charges for it.

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atkrighteous t1_iz71rw7 wrote

It’s cause of squeegee boyZ

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Manmadegoose t1_iz7xp0v wrote

I always assume they are enforcing the trafficgif

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the-lovely-panda t1_iza0apw wrote

Used to work near there like 2 years ago, cops have always been around that corner for ages. Must protect the tourist spots.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izbm9o7 wrote

Cops have been in the area I agree with you completely. Just the same they were not parked on that corner of Conway and Light the way they are now.

I'm over there everyday as part of my work and so I see it clear as day.

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DreadyVapor t1_iza7lv0 wrote

They have been there for years,way before the most recent squeegee incident. No idea why.

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Naive-Raisin4134 t1_iza8glz wrote

There has not been an officer stationed at that spot 24/7 for years.

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DreadyVapor t1_iza9xwk wrote

I have seen one there almost every day for 4 years. I did not drive during lockdown, but it's definitely been there longer than a few months. I dgaf about this, not sure why I'm responding, so think whatever you want. But its presence is not recent.

ETA: I never said 24/7. I'm talking business hours. Whatever your skin in this game is, I'm out. Continue to waste your time on this topic. I can't believe I have commented twice on this irrelevant post. 😳🤣

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MDL333 t1_izak7fl wrote

This is occurring in various parts of the city. One constantly sits in an apartment complex lot on Bowleys Lane near Sinclair Lane. Every single time I drive by it is there. I believe these are known problem areas or high profile areas that have the cop sitting there as the result of influence.

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Moneymakinbrookx t1_iz9lq6n wrote

Lol yt people discussing urban issues is always hilarious to me. Y’all miss the mark so easily. 🤣 this is simple. A crime occurred in an area that makes the city a lot of money. In order to prevent people from abandoning said area for fear of their safety you add a deterrent. But tbh the officers in those stuck “posts” are probably being retaliated against and most likely aren’t gonna do to much work protecting and serving as a result. That’s beside the point tho. Please don’t hurt y’all selves thinking to hard. K.I.S.S. ✌🏾

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izbn28f wrote

You make a very good point. "People discussing urban issues that lack an urban background". In itself that's not wrong but the problem is that they don't try to ask questions all that happens is the same crap gets spewed over and over and then the county folks come in with their comments from the peanut gallery and it goes on and on.

The good part when you look around enough you are bound to find a nugget of value in the comments where someone says something that actually makes sense.

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JuggernautOk108 t1_iz6m75v wrote

I’ve also had this thought! Not sure the shooting checks out, that would require a lot of cops on a lot of corners. Maybe because of the heavy panhandling?

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Mxuw OP t1_iz6n9eq wrote

that seems most likely in my opinion, I can’t count how many times I’ve seen panhandlers there. But on the other hand I’ve seen them there and the cops don’t do anything

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Naive-Raisin4134 t1_iz83j6y wrote

Most of the "kids" on Conway are 18+ with iPhones, airpods and designer clothing.... if you think the new squeegee plan will fix anything I have a harbor tunnel to sell you.

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