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Mxuw OP t1_iz6lwfj wrote

There’s not much foot traffic there unless it’s game day, well at least compared to other parts of down town so I can’t image it’s deterring much crime lol

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DiscoDeadhead t1_iz6lwy3 wrote

They’ve been sitting there since a guy got shot at that intersection

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JuggernautOk108 t1_iz6m75v wrote

I’ve also had this thought! Not sure the shooting checks out, that would require a lot of cops on a lot of corners. Maybe because of the heavy panhandling?

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TheCaptainDamnIt t1_iz6mcg4 wrote

“I’ve always wondered”

Cops only been stationed there a few months.

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greggsbenton t1_iz6n2ya wrote

Replying to Mxuw (#874,205)

I’ve seen a cop sitting there for the past year, I don’t think it’s because of the shooting that happened in July. It was probably because ppl tend to run through the lights there

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Mxuw OP t1_iz6n9eq wrote

Replying to JuggernautOk108 (#874,195)

that seems most likely in my opinion, I can’t count how many times I’ve seen panhandlers there. But on the other hand I’ve seen them there and the cops don’t do anything

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handleinvalid t1_iz6nr58 wrote

Could also be to actively prevent motorists from going straight from the leftmost right-turn lane instead of turning onto conway…

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RL_Mutt t1_iz6q70b wrote

I wonder why there’s a cop on the corner of Charles and E. Mt Royal ave every night when I’ve witnessed no less than 4 people run the red while making a left from the right lane in the past month.

Useless.

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to the person who responded to this comment with “they’re there for crime not traffic violations” and deleted it:

  1. Running a red light can have pretty horrible repercussions when it occurs at a busy intersection with students and other people crossing Charles Street all the time. Especially at night.

  2. If you think putting the lights on, pulling through an intersection and giving someone a ticket would magically open up the flood gates from crime to occur on the other side of the intersection, I have a bridge to sell you.

  3. Picking and choosing what rules and/or laws you enforce is exactly what makes people feel entitled to do it in the first place. Traffic enforcement works in several ways, one of which is deterrence.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_iz6s8zi wrote

Replying to OldBayOnEverything (#874,196)

I see the cop car or truck there every single day. It kills me that they are being used to babysit the people who do the squeegees instead of banning the practice and giving those guys jobs with the city.

Those folks get more protection than people who go out here and work honest jobs where they don't have to annoy others to make a living.

It's ridiculous!

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PotentialScallion7 t1_iz6sp1o wrote

Replying to Mxuw (#874,205)

I drive by there frequently and there hasn’t always been a cop there like there is now. Was a cop frequently there-yes. But not like there is now which is basically all times. The day of that shooting before it happened a police officer made an arrest on that street.

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DfcukinLite t1_iz6uyt2 wrote

Because that’s a squeeze corner. My office is right next to this building and they are there everyday

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jupitaur9 t1_iz710ql wrote

Replying to greggsbenton (#874,237)

There were squeegees there before the shooting, and there were concerns about squeegee violence and theft before then.

It’s a chokepoint for a large percentage of the traffic coming into the city. Visitors come through there. So it is a good place for police to make themselves known.

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strawberitadaydream t1_iz75fmh wrote

I believe it was done to discourage squeegy-ing but dem boiz still be out there sometimes, even chatting with the cops.

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420EdibleQueen t1_iz769ao wrote

This is the area the driver/squeegee shooting happened. When the cops started sitting there I wondered why that corner and not all the other places people got killed in the city, and when you check the rent in that building you get your answer

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theonetruedavid t1_iz76wjv wrote

I walk by this cop car multiple days a week to get to/from work. I, an average Baltimore resident in the L, have alerted the police to issues with traffic lights on multiple occasions since July, the kinds of issues you could easily see from inside the vehicle, so they’re clearly not doing traffic enforcement. The police are there for one reason and one reason only: to avoid (or deter or maybe just delay the city from) another high-profile murder involving a squeegee worker at a major intersection that would force the city’s hand and force the city to police behavior that realistically will not stop until larger systemic changes are made and implemented by the city government.

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planetarylaw t1_iz7829l wrote

Replying to RL_Mutt (#874,367)

Ah yes the old "Baltimore left" I call it. My favorite though is when at the red light you see the driver make a right turn then immediately a u turn then another right to effectively avoid the red light.

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noseltzie t1_iz7aygi wrote

A cop car has been there since the 4th of July shooting, unrelated to the squeegee incident. They absolutely do not enforce anything traffic related. The cop cars for the squeegee-ers sit up at Charles and Conway where they actually do the squeegeeing, but also enforce nothing

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nesto92 t1_iz7sam2 wrote

What exactly are they doing there besides wasting taxpayer dollars is the real question.

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archenemy_43 t1_iz7uqkt wrote

Replying to greggsbenton (#874,237)

I have a friend that’s BCPD; cops in the city are given orders to post up at specific intersections during specific hours for the sole reason to create a presence.

It doesn’t matter if a car flies through that intersection at 130 mph, they’re instructed to stay put.

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Manmadegoose t1_iz7xp0v wrote

I always assume they are enforcing the trafficgif

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Ok_Ad8609 t1_iz8039e wrote

Replying to Mxuw (#874,216)

Yep, it is definitely your “mistake” (putting it in air quotes because I do not believe for one moment that it was an actual mistake).

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CaptainObvious110 t1_iz85yi2 wrote

Replying to Mildred_RatchedRN (#876,313)

Oh I agree with you completely but at the very least it couldn't be said that there are no jobs for them available.

Now to be more positive, let's say there are some young men that legitimately want to work to provide for their families? Then, at the very least they would be given the opportunity to do so which I am all for.

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NikkiRocker t1_iz89nfi wrote

Because of the squeegee killing that happened there.

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lpycb42 t1_iz8pmtf wrote

Squeegee Shooting.

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DownyOcean t1_iz93o58 wrote

It’s just a way to get mega overtime. Baltimore has the Drop Program. It averages the last 3 years of compensation as your retirement money so they let somebody close to retirement sit in the car for OT hours.

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billydrivesavic t1_iz96t7k wrote

Replying to maiios (#874,279)

lol right whenever I see someone pulled over in the city I’m like “what the fuck could that person have done to get pulled over” I see cops treat red lights like stop signs all the time

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Velghast t1_iz99h9h wrote

Replying to Mildred_RatchedRN (#876,313)

There's a lot of jobs available by legit employers in Baltimore but honestly after talking with one of the squeegee kids it sounds like they make a lot more money than possible at a 9:00 to 5:00 and with very flexible hours and they can just quit whenever they want to and come back whenever they want.

I was talking to one kid and he said he was pulling at least 150 bucks a day.

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stephiereffie t1_iz9b76j wrote

Replying to billydrivesavic (#877,319)

>“what the fuck could that person have done to get pulled over”

BPD still does traffic enforcement,but probably not for your race / socio economic status.

Poor black folks in Baltimore get pulled over all the time

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Moneymakinbrookx t1_iz9lq6n wrote

Lol yt people discussing urban issues is always hilarious to me. Y’all miss the mark so easily. 🤣 this is simple. A crime occurred in an area that makes the city a lot of money. In order to prevent people from abandoning said area for fear of their safety you add a deterrent. But tbh the officers in those stuck “posts” are probably being retaliated against and most likely aren’t gonna do to much work protecting and serving as a result. That’s beside the point tho. Please don’t hurt y’all selves thinking to hard. K.I.S.S. ✌🏾

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Bun_Bunz t1_iz9tp20 wrote

Replying to Jenfer1322 (#877,353)

Yup, 100% that and not the fact that 395 dumps right into the city there, that harbor place and the science center, major tourist spots are right across the street, or that Camden yards is just behind, or that the convention center is there. It's 414 light street... that's why they're there???? Grow up with this shitty commentary. It isn't helpful

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Valstwo t1_iz9y19w wrote

Well, the murder that took place there and all...

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the-lovely-panda t1_iza0apw wrote

Used to work near there like 2 years ago, cops have always been around that corner for ages. Must protect the tourist spots.

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DreadyVapor t1_iza7lv0 wrote

They have been there for years,way before the most recent squeegee incident. No idea why.

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DreadyVapor t1_iza9xwk wrote

Replying to Naive-Raisin4134 (#878,861)

I have seen one there almost every day for 4 years. I did not drive during lockdown, but it's definitely been there longer than a few months. I dgaf about this, not sure why I'm responding, so think whatever you want. But its presence is not recent.

ETA: I never said 24/7. I'm talking business hours. Whatever your skin in this game is, I'm out. Continue to waste your time on this topic. I can't believe I have commented twice on this irrelevant post. 😳🤣

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Signal_13 t1_izagb5g wrote

There are BPD overtime details at various intersections across the city to babysit the Squeegee Boys. This is probably one of them.

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MDL333 t1_izak7fl wrote

This is occurring in various parts of the city. One constantly sits in an apartment complex lot on Bowleys Lane near Sinclair Lane. Every single time I drive by it is there. I believe these are known problem areas or high profile areas that have the cop sitting there as the result of influence.

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f11tn88ss t1_izamc3c wrote

Replying to drimgere (#875,944)

uh yeah they do. I got a ticket for turning right on a red with a no turn on red sign. cop made a uturn, hit his lights and sped down on me. he was like wow, right in front of me, you do that. was i wrong? yes. do i see more flagrant traffic violations every day in front of cops in which motorist don't get pulled over? yes. is the cop that pulled me over the same one that lets other motorist do whatever? unknown lol. but yeah it does still happen. this was on the alameda, making a turn right turn onto 33rd.

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aresef t1_izaux04 wrote

A couple months ago, a driver played stupid games and went at squeegee workers with a baseball bat. One of the workers was carrying and fatally shot him. He was 14 at the time and was rung up on murder charges for it.

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RevRagnarok t1_izbeemc wrote

Replying to CaptainObvious110 (#874,457)

> I see the cop car or truck there every single day. It kills me that they are being used to babysit the people who do the squeegees instead of banning the practice and giving those guys jobs with the city.

"Had us in the first half; not gonna lie."

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izbm1bp wrote

Replying to Signal_13 (#879,218)

Yes, and I totally disagree with that approach. Once someone died I figured that was going to be a wrap for that activity but NO!

Someone dies and instead of it getting shut down you try to negotiate with these folks as it they are in any position to make demands? I thought these were children?

Children don't need to be ripping and running the streets. They need to be with with their parents. If their parents aren't giving them the proper care for whatever reason then they need case workers to check on them and get them the proper resources to try to address those issues.

But to say to them "Oh you want to wash windows and harass people in the process because you don't want a real job? That's ok, we'll just give you money to not do that ok?

What kind of message are you sending to the young people when you allow them to call the shots like that?

No. As the adult, you set the rules and if rules aren't followed then consequences are in order. That's the way to dignify people and help people to be elevated, not to just pander to a bunch of folks that are causing a whole lot of drama.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izbm9o7 wrote

Replying to the-lovely-panda (#878,510)

Cops have been in the area I agree with you completely. Just the same they were not parked on that corner of Conway and Light the way they are now.

I'm over there everyday as part of my work and so I see it clear as day.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izbn28f wrote

Replying to Moneymakinbrookx (#877,873)

You make a very good point. "People discussing urban issues that lack an urban background". In itself that's not wrong but the problem is that they don't try to ask questions all that happens is the same crap gets spewed over and over and then the county folks come in with their comments from the peanut gallery and it goes on and on.

The good part when you look around enough you are bound to find a nugget of value in the comments where someone says something that actually makes sense.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izbuj2z wrote

Replying to Velghast (#877,424)

You also have to factor in that they aren't paying any taxes either. Imagine how much more you would be bringing home if you didn't have taxes taken out of your check each pay period.

Then imagine having that money and not having to pay rent, not having to pay for food and not having to pay for medical care either or and no car insurance.

So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand WHY they do it.

The problem is that the fact that it's ALLOWED in the first place.

Someone has to be benefiting by pandering to these folks and until that person is properly addressed the status quo will absolutely continue.

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izc8yif wrote

Replying to RevRagnarok (#880,574)

Yeah it's a real shame. It kind of reminds me of when there would be crime mob that would go to a restaurant or other place of business and extort them for "protection fees".

In this case it's the ENTIRE city. A group of teenagers are able to dictate the policy of an entire city.

Let that sink in for a moment.

Add to that people in this very subreddit who's needle is stuck on them being folks whose brains aren't fully developed so ”they can't really help being armed and dangerous. After all, they are the product of their environment."

Are you serious?

Even the Bible says that "foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child". But it doesn't stop there with that TRUE statement.... It goes on to say....

"But the rod of DISCIPLINE shall drive it far away from him". Proverbs 22:15.

Well what does the word "discipline" mean?

  1. Training expected to produce a specific character or pattern of behavior, especially training that produces moral or mental improvement.

  2. Control obtained by enforcing compliance or order.

Please tell me which one of these is being done both to deal with this current issue and or to solve various problems we have in this city?

No discipline at home, the school system fails them, the politicians fail them, virtually everyone fails them that are in fact ADULTS and whose brains are fully developed. So what's their excuse?

Let's go back to that first definition of discipline. Wouldn't that include holding people accountable for their own actions? Why is it that these kids have such a low set of expectations put upon them?

Tell me that's not messed up!

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CaptainObvious110 t1_izc9ugt wrote

Replying to Signal_13 (#880,973)

Oh goodness, sorry to hear that. I hope she is OK. That group is up there pretty often and I have seen police on the intersection of Pratt and President St but they aren't there as often as at Conway and Light.

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Signal_13 t1_izcd6b4 wrote

Replying to CaptainObvious110 (#881,958)

She's ok. Two of them smacked her in the head with their squeegees when she told them that she didn't have any cash. I had warned her not to ever roll down her window for them, but it apparently fell on deaf ears. She's here for work from California and this is another world to her. She's learning...

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