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Eoxua t1_j1dh146 wrote

Not me, I only listen to frequency sweeps

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DasGutYa t1_j1dp3jx wrote

Isn't this 'excessive time spent shutting out reality may be a sign of depression' but re-worded to be edgy?

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Pufflekun t1_j1fl34j wrote

Depends on how they define "listening to music." Is being at a concert, or a party with a sound system, also "listening to music"?

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OldMango t1_j1hd4en wrote

Yeah, and i suspect they're drawing wrong conclusions from that data point.

As in; correlation does not always equal causation, i.e. listening to music for hours on end is more likely one possible symptom of depression, and not causing depression directly.

(but i dunno, maybe one broods over radiohead for longer than is healthy and develops a depressive mood šŸ¤·)

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Shadharm t1_j1hok89 wrote

Or Linkin Park. "isolation", "defeat" and "escape" are reappearing themes in their old songs.

But, yes, it's not something that is new, but, listening to music for long periods could be other things, like Autism. Someone who is Autistic can listen to a song on loop for weeks as a way to soothe or block out painful noise.

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Matchpik t1_j1jaabe wrote

Yes, it should be likened to "Too much time spent looking at anime may be a sign you are awkward and unpopular." šŸ¤£

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sorbuss t1_j1dg4qv wrote

What is "too many"?

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hightide100 t1_j1dgaow wrote

26 hours a day. I think we're good.

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InvisibleMoonWalker t1_j1dibu6 wrote

If I listen to music for 13 hours a day, but my playback speed is 2x, does that count as 26 hours of music a day?

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ryukin631 t1_j1djmzh wrote

It makes sense if you don't think about it

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llIicit t1_j1e8ztq wrote

Just listen to a different song in each ear ez

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Awerito t1_j1echch wrote

With good separation headphones listen all your favorite song at once, ex: Foo Fighters

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Netsugake t1_j1eddkz wrote

I clicked on it happy to try it. I have ER2SE in my ears

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double_expressho t1_j1gdund wrote

If this study is correct, listening to this will make me depressed in just a few seconds.

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craigasshole t1_j1h6m7z wrote

what about 4x playback speed 23 hours a day? 92 hours a day is too much?

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suffffuhrer t1_j1hn55j wrote

It really comes down to the beats per minute of the tracks. At 126bpm, you are easily listening to hours of music in one hour.

We recommend only a few minutes of music a day in that case.

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Status_Body1307 t1_j1iywlj wrote

>What is "too many"?

When you keep your headphones on in your bed and still have the music on the next morning.

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capital_YR t1_j1dhgll wrote

Here we listen only technicalities and target curve sorry

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ArdowNota t1_j1dltj8 wrote

They listen to music because they are depressed

We are depressed because we listen to frequency responses music

We are not the same.

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LauriCular t1_j1dhwi4 wrote

The buttons on my DAP get depressed

It depends if you're listening to Radiohead and Tracy Chapman for too many hours

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InvisibleMoonWalker t1_j1dj3v3 wrote

Imo listening to Radiohead at all is a sign of depression.

Would recommend "You and Whose Army?".

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Utterkid t1_j1gej2c wrote

listening to how to disappear completely on vinyl rn lol

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AnotherMax2021 t1_j1do2jr wrote

But does it CAUSE depression? If not, keep listening!

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Efficient_Truth_9461 t1_j1e987x wrote

Abstract: "The purpose of the current study was to observe how music affects the mood of those who suffer from anxiety and depression and those who do not. While previous research has examined this many of the previous studies have induced either physical pain or mood in participants in order to measure the impact of music. The current study, however, intends to examine how music affects mood without attempting to induce mood in participants. Six-hundred and seventy college students were given a questionnaire containing an anxiety questionnaire, depression scale, demographic questionnaire, and music listening questionnaire. Intercorrelations, ANOVAS, as well as linear regressions were performed on the data and results for the study were significant in that music was found to impact participantā€™s anxiety and depression. Results of the current study indicate that participantsā€™ preference for alternative music and soundtracks/showtunes impacted their level of depression and anxiety."

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Efficient_Truth_9461 t1_j1e9p6w wrote

So it predicts depression, but no mechanism has been determined. So we still don't know the mechanism.

And it depends on the person

Here's another study that shows that

Abstract: "Research suggests that negative moods may be associated with attraction to negative emotion in music, a finding that runs counter to mood management theory. Despite such evidence, no study has examined how and why people who have clinical depression listen to music. Qualitative thematic analysis was conducted with textual responses from 294 online survey respondents (148 with depression and 146 without depression). Findings revealed that people with depression were more likely to use music to match or reflect mood or to express emotion, while those without depression were more likely to use music for energy and inspiration. Negative emotion in music enabled some to attend to negative emotion, with subsequent dissipation of negative mood. For others, it was connected with negative cognition and a worsening of negative mood."

So the answer is that the human brain is too complicated to understand things like this yet. More research is needed to reach a conclusion. It's even a successful coping mechanism for some percentage of the population

Please don't make any unwanted life changes based off of this evidence homies. It's a decision to make for yourself until we have more information. But yes, if you listen to an above average amount of music, you are more likely to develop depression. Again, the mechanism of this is unknown and it depends on the person

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xMitch4corex t1_j1ez27k wrote

This is not entirely true, the amount of music that someone listens is not a predictor of depression and listening to music won't end up making people depressed! Potentially, it could happen in a very particular situation? Maybe. It might be a sign of whatever is happening in life at a particular moment. You can apply the same principle to spending much time watching tv or movies, playing video games, compulsive behaviors etc. The fact that there is a correlation does not mean causation.

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Efficient_Truth_9461 t1_j1f4b7o wrote

It is a Correlation, but it can be used to show music causes depression as a trend in the population. So, music may not just make you sad reflexively, but it is directly related with something that does

It's been a minute since I took psych research design, but

This is an anova analysis. Yeah, the mechanism could be anything internal or external, but if you found a proposed mechanism the amount of music, the depression and the degree of exposure to the mechanism would all be directly correlated in a random sampling of a population representative of the whole. So if something related to music listening causes more depression, listening to more music in a vacuum would not increase depression, but in your sample of the population it would show a direct increase in depression as well as a direct increase or decrease in exposure to the mechanism. Let's say the mechanism is spending more time alone increases depression. Everyone listening to more music would mean more time alone in aggregate, resulting in increased depression in your population

If everyone started listening to more music, many would spend more time alone and be more depressed. It causes depression as a trend, not in a vacuum. When they say "causes" they don't mean like how a bright light causes you to blink.

If eating beans is shown to correlate with shitting your pants with an anova analysis and the mechanism is increased gas build up, eating beans still causes increased pant shitting overall in the population. And decreasing bean consumption would mean less pants shit

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xMitch4corex t1_j1fktvq wrote

An ANOVA is a statistical analysis to determine if the observed variable changes for a reason other than just "chance". But, many people and even scientists (psychologists are not scientists) tend to forget what a significant statistical difference really means biologically, falling in the real of making too many assumptions.

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pyracantha_ t1_j1fn4y4 wrote

"studies show that you can make any old shit up if you back it with a source no one will check"

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Boney-Rigatoni t1_j1enrql wrote

Actually, music is an anti-depressant, or at the very least, a coping mechanism to deal with our depression.

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No-Context5479 t1_j1dwq0v wrote

Then I'm depressed then... Cos I listen to music A LOT!

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Rengoku_demon_slayer t1_j1dz1b3 wrote

*Me that listen to Doom Metal for hours if possible*

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whats_you_doing t1_j1ho5ee wrote

Depression fears

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Rengoku_demon_slayer t1_j1iqeep wrote

Believe or not, not necessarily lol the feeling that mostly hits me with Doom Metal is just a peace, i can stay relaxed/calm. Sometimes some sadness hits hard with a band or 2, but mostly is really comfortable to me.

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Bvlvkvy t1_j1e9woq wrote

This study brought to you by Capitalism Death Cultā„¢ Are you not working 16hrs a day ? Do you have enough time and money from being a slave to a dying technocrat world to listen to songs that remind you of times that weren't filled with orange man inbreds and a pandemic while inflation/recession stuff a pineapple straight unlubed up your ass ? SOUNDS LIKE DEPRESSION CIVILIAN. YOU SHOULD GET A 3rd JOB.

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R4K45H1 t1_j1ex8ub wrote

I have to, I'm a producer šŸ’€

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CPOx t1_j1dl0pr wrote

I thought we all just looked at graphs and made memes here?

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e_hekuta t1_j1dz1wg wrote

I don't listen music, I test headphones.

Specifically montlhy hyped chi-fi iems.

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AMC4x4 t1_j1e95js wrote

Tell me something I didn't know, RapTV.

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El_Pal0 t1_j1ek2co wrote

Depression? Depressive might be hearing that much music through those awful headphones you got there in that photo.

How about some Sennys or Hifimans? huh?

Amateurs

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Cause-Effect t1_j1rfrt7 wrote

I actually have those headphones from Thailand before my audiophile enlightenment. I auditioned a lot of headphones from the Thai store and it sounded the best of the bunch, by a margin. But it's still very muddy and bloated, unusable (imagine how bad the rest are)

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El_Pal0 t1_j1s1g4c wrote

As most easily available generic headphones, i presume. I actually never tried that pair, i was just making an educated guess to how good or bad they could be

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anklesaurus t1_j1faf53 wrote

Iā€™m a musician, does my depression cancel out or double

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who128 t1_j1ei2ba wrote

Y'all are listening to your headphones? I thought we just collected them like pokemon cards.

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Shirubax t1_j1h8x62 wrote

Yeah I know, right? Like how people in the camera forums with the most cameras actually take the fewest photos.

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Cause-Effect t1_j1rfwyp wrote

I had my xm4 in the storage for around 5 months till I took it out today. Gotta keep em, you never know when you ll need em.

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sunn031 t1_j1ev4m3 wrote

Used to listen to music approximately 5 hours per day. Family and professional life catched up and now I feel kinda depressed. I need music to recalibrate myself. Good weed while listening wouldn't harm either.

No wonder we appreciate good sound that much. It's such an important part of my life and good gear makes the experience even better. It isnt't expensive either, because of how long it can last.

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Lelouch25 t1_j1doyc7 wrote

Itā€™s probably a form of self prescribed music therapy. šŸ¤Ŗ

But do go outside to take some walks if you noticed youā€™re glued to your headphones for more than 6 hours or something I guess. ā›…ļø

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Jurassekpark t1_j1dz9q2 wrote

Tonight am going to refuse the ride home from my colleagues and go home walking just so I can listen to my brand new S12 smoking haze for a couple of hours in the piece of the night. How much depressed am I?

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sharkfucker420 t1_j1e6ca8 wrote

I only listen to dull hums at a desired frequency

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DreamDropDistancia t1_j1fi3ef wrote

Some of us are on this journey for the benefit of video games.

And, on that note, let me take a moment and just say that "I can hear footsteps so clearly and from forever away" isn't the only measure of a headphone for video games. In fact, I absolutely don't care about that, because I'm neither a pro gamer, nor am I trying to be, and also I'm not over here only playing CSGO and Overwatch - other video games exist.

And when I did play 1,000 hours of CSGO, it was mostly me running around with the Negev, because nobody really expects Negev on round two, and nobody expects a Negev to just sit there and hold the trigger down the whole time.

It's just so weird to me that every time I search for something about headphones and video games, the conversation is always, "You can hear footsteps so good - you'll get the competitive edge", and the response to that being, "Sweet - I'll get those then". Like, to the request of "gaming", and nobody clarifying what kind of gaming.

And for movies, it's always, "It has punchy bass/good low end - great for movies", and it's like... there are other movies besides Transformers and Die Hard. I don't need punchy bass for Encanto or The Princess Bride.

/rant

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Shirubax t1_j1h90bi wrote

Maybe they meant dirty movies?

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DreamDropDistancia t1_j1halke wrote

I'm reminded of this one time a roommate sat the rest of us roommates down, and was, like, "let's watch movie together", and after some poking around on Netflix, he found one he thought sounded interesting, so he started it, and about five minutes in, everybody but him was, like, "Dude, what is this, porn?" And he was, like, "No way! It's on Netflix! Let's just keep watching and see where it goes."

About five more minutes in, it was hilariously obvious that it was a soft-core porn flick. We bailed, and he, for once in his life, admitted he was wrong.

For a while, the rest of us were, like, "Hey, rememeber that time you tried to get us to watch porn with you on Netflix?"

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Shirubax t1_j1hbbkk wrote

Hmm traveling this week across the country by bicycle I've stopped here and there at net cafes to rest up, and a few days ago I tried to watch some of the free movies.... Both what I guess you would call soft porn? Maybe? One was about a female truck driver, of all things.

Already I suppose they must make headphones tuned for erm.. human voice.

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Shirubax t1_j1hbmj3 wrote

Also.. I went to a business trip to the US like 5 years ago and watched a movie in the hotel I started at...... Strangest movie I've ever seen, wish I knew what it was called.

It starts where a guy shows up with all his baggage at his girlfriend's house, and tells her he has finally left his wife so they can be together. She was already planning to go out that night, and they fight about that and end up fighting and talking for like an hour, until they tend up having sex on camera.

Then the last days "don't tell any other clients we did it without a condom", and the guy is like "sure thing, oh, and I guess I have to return all that baggage to good will. See you next week".

So... It was all some sort of super extended prostitute role play?!

This was on the regular channel, not some porn channel?

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Muttywango t1_j1e5af0 wrote

Isolation.

I have great speakers but my wife prefers to watch shitty TV. I can't read when she watches shitty TV. The music she likes on my speakers annoys me. She doesn't like my friends and her friends talk about being close to Jesus and the path to Godliness.

I'm in a fortunate position to be living next door to my wife. She complains that she can hear my speakers.

I love her but I've chosen headphones.

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rodaphilia t1_j1eiahq wrote

Opposite for me. When Iā€™m at my worst I donā€™t put on music.

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tsrgee t1_j1eqncp wrote

Same here, if i'm in a good mood, music elevates it. Bad mood? Dark & quiet room.

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PeejMoose t1_j1fzny5 wrote

What about people who listen to the same song three times in a row on three different pairs of headphones? Asking for a friend.

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WhiskeyGnomes t1_j1gcz1v wrote

I love how this chick looks like she just shit herself and happens to be wearing headphones lmao.

Dialing Target for Adult Diapers.

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Matchpik t1_j1j9vq3 wrote

Recent studies show that a fifth of bourbon taken with two aspirin significantly reduces the awareness of a heart attack!

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Exotic-Masterpiece75 t1_j1dvkd0 wrote

Yeah, it applies to those who sits in their mother's basement all day long, listening to rappers bragging about having banged 21 women

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Awerito t1_j1ec0dg wrote

Yes, no... But no, yes

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Anxlyze t1_j1ec7r0 wrote

You are depressed because you listen to too much music.

I am depressed because I listen to my headphones too much.

we are not the same.

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My_Little_Pony123 t1_j1eg13i wrote

The better the gear, the deeper you into go into the rabbit hole, and further reveal details into repressed memories.

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SmartOpinion69 t1_j1ev8oh wrote

what do you mean "we are all depressed"? nobody in the audiophile community listens to music for too many hours. we just look at frequency response charts for too long

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ATypeOfRacer t1_j1f0g0w wrote

Why do we need a study to learn this though?

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unsigned-char t1_j1f0nsu wrote

"Just because I spend so much time listening to music doesn't mean I'm depressed! I mean, I am depressed. But not because I'm listening to music!"

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StanKukin t1_j1f3udu wrote

depressed for the past 20+ years, I guess.

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pieman3141 t1_j1g4whb wrote

Don't some of you solely listen to headphone reviews on Youtube?

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Imstrong8777 t1_j1g6xib wrote

Audeze lcd-4 is what I want for Christmas.

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Slick1ru2 t1_j1g7e05 wrote

She's depressed the price of Apple Music went up.

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Bibingka_Malagkit t1_j1g8k47 wrote

This is false because there's no such thing as "for too many hours" and "depression" when listening to Vitas' 7th element.

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BassheadGamer t1_j1g9l35 wrote

I have about 70k minutes on Spotify wrapped, and only in the top 5%. I listen a good amount, but not as much as Iā€™d like. and thatā€™s just Spotify. Thereā€™s some songs on YT and cd rips I heavily enjoy.

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kitomarius t1_j1ge649 wrote

I actually am depressed, diagnosed and medicated so jokes on them

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Timequake-Droid t1_j1gg3si wrote

We don't listen to music we just go shopping for headphones.

If you want to find people that actually listen to music probably go to a musician subreddit. Did the Venn diagram of musicians and headphone enthusiast barely intersects for some reason.

Those that can't do, buy expensive headphones ;)

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creative_avocado20 t1_j1gioxp wrote

Speaking for myself, listening to music helped me get through times when I was sad and depressed.

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fuazo t1_j1gjk79 wrote

but hey atleast im not doing drugs.smoke.alchool.beetle nuts (common in taiwan)

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Chez5160 t1_j1gm0u8 wrote

That checks out

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FeneaV t1_j1gmlkm wrote

Than what does spending hours tuning my own headphones make me lol

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The_Maker18 t1_j1gqwd8 wrote

. . . Well seeing as I hit almost 100k minutes this year . . .

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hurtyewh t1_j1gsk3s wrote

For me at least it's the opposite. The less I listen the more down I feel.

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Hitsuget t1_j1gvd4y wrote

Super Depressed

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AngryTank t1_j1h2t8d wrote

You are telling me 8 hours of desktop listening a day means Iā€™m depressed?

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Neichello t1_j1hb989 wrote

You know, thinking about it, that doesn't sound that wrong.

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pouel_qc t1_j1hdxm6 wrote

Implying people on this sub listen to music.

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geumja-ssi t1_j1hh9lr wrote

I'm so happily depressed with music

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apersonthingy t1_j1hhurt wrote

Good thing Spotify Wrapped counts minutes, not hours. Close one

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james0887 t1_j1hi75w wrote

Even so, I'd rather be sad in my hd6xx's than sad in some dirty buds.

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I_am_Mr_Knowitall t1_j1hl56r wrote

It's better to sing at the top of your lungs than hit yourself. Although I'm doing both.

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haziq110 t1_j1hqjqh wrote

Listening to gear, Iā€™m good over here šŸ˜

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LeukemiaSkywalker51 t1_j1hrpr5 wrote

Breaking in some gear over here, my girl got me Sundaras as an early X-Mas gift. I'm loving them so far and even found a nice EQ on here, much better imo.

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LeukemiaSkywalker51 t1_j1hqvz8 wrote

Not me, I listen to much less music when feeling depressed, it's too much work sometimes.

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Skrounst1 t1_j1hyayv wrote

Good thing I don't listen to music... I listen to headphones.

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Metalovichinkov t1_j1i881b wrote

Might be one of a few, but i don't listen to music at all. Everything makes sounds and it's better with a good headphones

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thms0 t1_j1icl3o wrote

I call this utter bullshit.

When you're depressed you don't feel like anything. So if they meant "listening while in bed and doing nothing else", sure, otherwise, 100% disagree.

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rj8i t1_j1ik0xn wrote

Narrators first monologue in high fidelity.

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cvllider t1_j1s39jq wrote

I know this is posted as a joke, but this is actually the case for me. I was depressed for a decade until this year, when I've figured it out and I'm not depressed anymore.

I now listen to less music a day, in the past I would listen to music all day every day.

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Windowsuser360 t1_j1yys6l wrote

They listen to music because they're depressed

I listen to music because work is annoying, and music makes my day better

We are not the same.

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ovab_cool t1_j1f5k6t wrote

They're right, the people with the highest numbers of wrapped usually have depression.

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Archikos t1_j1f9xs1 wrote

Oh no, anyway

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