I feel like there's a reason the show is considered a classic and the movie, a curiosity

It is. A lot.

They basically completely took it away from Whedon. He has said he cried though most of the premier.

That two minute vampire death scene was like the funniest thing I’d ever seen when I was like twelve.

I unfortunately decided to watch it at 28 and was more perplexed by...whatever the actor was going for. I thought the movie was going to be a little more serious and...that was not what I got with that guy.

Did you peep the Ben Affleck appearance?

I never got the appeal for this film. But I guess there weren't any other film like this with a woman lead during this time. I personally have never liked Whedon's writing and structure but he did get screwed over by a director that went in a different route by turning this film into a comedy. There's just so much to unpack with this film for me as I know many people I grew up with liked this film. It's a great concept for the time, it was just executed horribly.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie vs Buffy the Vampire Slayer series is the best example I can think of regarding the topic of popcorn flicks (or series). You can be fun and even dumb as the series shows without being a complete dumpster fire like the movie is.

I refuse to watch it as an adult as I’m sure I won’t love it nearly as much.

Eh, you might still find it funny. I might have if I wasn't so perplexed the entire time.

I may give it a shot then. Lol

(Stake in heart) awwwww....owwwwww....ahhhhhh...eeeeeeee

And that vampire is none other than Pee-wee Herman

I think he was just trying to forget about his little romp at the movie theater.

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As someone who is: an adult, and a serious fan of the series; the movie is still great fun. OP is being a stick in the mud.

Yes, yes it is. This is studio interference in a nutshell, plus some inexperience. Luckily, the TV show was significantly better, because he was able to maintain more control over it and make it (mostly) HIS show.

It's just too bad that he ended up a major jackass (was he always like this, but it was kept under wraps, or did his personality "evolve" into this over time. Does it even really matter?). His works make up a significant portion of my favourite shows and movies, and I will pretty much check out any show/film featuring any of the major cast members of Buffy/Angel/Firefly, just because of how much I enjoyed those shows.

A little ironic, given his involvement in basically doing the same to Zack Snyder.

Dude that move is dope

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"...I can do anything!"

"Oh yeah? CLAP."

The whole movie is an embarrassing mess, but man, I love that line.

You don't know who Pee-Wee Herman (Paul Reubens) is? That wasn't just some no name cameo.

"Detention, detention, detention. Detention-detention."

Dude, that’s…

• Rutger Hauer playing Lothos
• Donald Sutherland as Merrick
• Luke Perry as Pike
• Paul Reubens (aka Pee Wee Herman) as Amilyn

Also, this is the first appearance for Hillary Swank who plays one of Buffy’s friends.

When this movie debuted, it was kind of an anti-Beverley Hills 90210 (series from the 90’s).

You have no idea how hilarious it was to see a serious actor like Rutger Hauer pop out of a coffin and play a violin like that in theaters at the time…my Dad was laughing his ass off.

It’s dated and filled with cheese moments and that’s part of why it’s so fun.

Ah, oh, ah, eee (kicks wall) ahh

How funky is your chicken? How loose is your goose? My goose is totally loose!

I unironically love the movie. I was like 4-5 when it came out and my family loved it so much that we named our dog Buffy, then we watched the series from the very beginning (and we were obsessed!) it’s dumb as hell but I don’t care even a little bit

Watched it last month with my wife…laughed my ass off.

Cmon Pike, let me in…I’m hungry.

I can’t Billy! YOURE FLOATING!

Stephen Root was the principal, didn’t realize that until I saw it again last month.

Hold up hold up hold up. You thought a movie called Buffy the Vampire Slayer, about a high school girl killing vampires, was going to be a little more serious than it was? That’s on you 😂

The TV series is pretty serious most of the time.

The series is a teen drama. Did you not see the poster lol, or the fact that it’s labeled a horror/comedy. Just wild to think that was going to be serious at all lol

This movie was partially shot in my high school, John Marshall in Los Angeles (also Nightmare on Elm Street and other films).

It’s a great film

Buffy was never intended to be serious, did you watch the tv series? It's a parody of many things.

I am not meaning it doesn't have any piece of drama or meaning. It totally does. Reviewed many ideas about life, love, mortality, etc.

i'm saying that the general tone of the series is comedy, it's not an all action badass movie (or is it?). That's what I meant.

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Don’t forget Ben Affleck and Ricki Lake!

Whedon bitched about every script that he wrote that was poorly received and blamed it on the director.

He finally got what he deserved.

Buffy, Alien, Storm’s horrible line about what happens to lightening when it hits a toad.

So come on all you Hog fans and shake your caboose!

Why did Buffy have the same mascot at both skewls?

I was a huge Whedon fan growing up, Buffy being my favorite show of all time.

You know how they say “don’t meet your heroes?”

I met Joss before the avengers came out and it was the most awkward situation ever. He couldn’t be bothered or couldn’t care less. Thanked him for his work an the impact it had on me and he just sighed, signed something, and looked the other way. This was at a comic con ticketed signing. Like it would be one thing if I pulled him off the street (I work in film and tv and have ran into him on studio lots and didn’t say anything because we both were working and it’s just uncomfortable if it isn’t at a meet & greet type situation)..

Oddly some coworkers, girlfriend, and I were at an industry party that same weekend and he was very keen on chatting up my then girlfriend, and by association, me. I couldn’t give less of a fuck by that point. I know the vibe and surroundings were much different but it just made me laugh that he played the role of “ultimate fan boy” to his followers but didn’t have the decency to make conversation while meeting his fans at a signing event that he was very aware of.

But did you notice Ben Affleck on the basketball team?

He was the highlight of the movie.

After what a prick he turned out to be, he deserves nothing less.

Yeah he honestly really broke my heart. I fucking loved that man. And of course between ultron and justice league its clear that, not only is he a complete piece of shit, but he's lost his touch as well

It's serious half the time. The rest is snark and quips.

The movie came out right when 'alternative' music went mainstream so the movie plays off reversing a lot of 80s American high school tropes.

It's got Luke Perry from 90210 as the love interest. The movie is filled with meta humour if you grew up in the 80s.

Pee Wee Herman's death scene is hilarious.

https://youtu.be/IHVh_S9NGIU

Let me in Pike. I’m hungry.

I’m hungry, I’m hungry, III’mm Hungryyyy!

Chuffing love that scene. Lmao

Who knew a guy named Joseph who insisted on calling himself Joss would end up being a problematic weirdo?

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Are you just going by descriptions without actually having seen it? It balances comedy and drama. Sometimes they overlap, sometimes they don't. There's an attempted rape scene that's played very straight, there's a very realistic death that's neither horror nor comedy, the main character struggles with PTSD...

The movie is very cheesy but I’d argue the scene where the vampires first attack pyke in his van while he’s driving is actually pretty well done and in some spots intense

One of them.

I really enjoyed Paul Reubens myself.

You just don't understand the subtle nuance of a nerd prattfalling into a pair of tiddys

Honestly I find the movie pretty charming/funny. It doesn't take itself serious, leans into the absurd, and is a relatively fun hour and a half.

Loved that movie as a kid. I don't remember it being quite as bad as you say. I wonder if you're a bit younger and maybe just not used to seeing movies from the 80's and early-mod 90's. Perhaps a kid growing up in the late 90's - early 2000's may not be accustomed to that schlock we used to watch before tons of CGI.

I had drinks with him. He’s incredibly intelligent, witty, and nice. Just constantly barraged with people and probably has low self-control/esteem when he’s alone. I tend to think of him as one of my burnout friend’s who’s artistic craft made him a lot of success and money. But overall, he’s just a mostly typical human caught up in the game of fame.

I don't know if he was always like that. He used to be fairly fun to chat with back on the old Bronze chatroom, if you caught it with few people it was a good laugh. But then, text conversation - people can represent themselves however they want.

I don't necessarily think he's the devil, but I do think he's probably the sort of person who doesn't do well when given any sort of power.

I love this film. It's ridiculous and everyone involved knows it. The overdone vampire death scene, the detention slips for the dead vamps, even the dialogue ("Scuse much? Rude or anything?") still cracks me up. Not sure how I'd feel about it if I saw it for the first time now.

And it doesn't have a 'random love interest stoner dude'. It has Luke Perry. Who was the main reason I watched it in the first place.

Look u/zak55, if you want to play house with unwashed masses, that’s fine, but I think you should spend a little time prioritizing. I really do.

You spelt amazing wrong

Yes, numerous times. Love the Buffyverse. Saying it was never serious is removing some of the best moments of the show, ones still critically lauded for how they tackled serious issues.

The Body is a prime example of a serious episode. There were quite a few others. It wasn't all campy fun.

If a role depends on you knowing who an actor is and what they've done before, it's a bad role.

Buffy was often serious, did you watch the TV series?

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This reads like someone who has never seen an 80’s or 90’s movie before. I’m going to assume you are young lol.

This reads like someone who has never seen an 80’s or 90’s movie before. I’m going to assume you are young lol.

I miss the 90s...movies like this were made

I'm proud to be one of the ten people that saw it in the theater.

> It’s dated and filled with cheese moments and that’s part of why it’s so fun.

Exactly. Its a bad, low budget 90's movie that has a cult following and spawned carriers for a lot of people.

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The Body was so brutal.

That’s all I remember of the movie. It was fantastic.

Straight out this is the film when I'm in the mood for a really good laugh

That was a beautiful scene.

You thought a movie called Buffy the Vampire Slayer was going to be a serious movie? He was dragging it out for comedic purposes.

I remember watching the movie and thinking "great premise, shit execution. I wish they'd make it again with a more serious take."

Sometimes wishes do come true!

In most scenarios, sure. But it in a comedy like Buffy, having a comedic cameo role by a well-known actor - in this case, a famous children's TV host - adds a lot more humor. Similarly, Tom Cruise's role in Tropic Thunder or Liam Neeson's cameo in Life's Too Short we're integral to the jokes.

Honestly I prefer Buffay the Vampire Layer.

They went through entire depressing seasons IIRC.

But a few episodes before the rape Buffy is accidentally made invisible and uses the opportunity for shenanigans. The really heavy parts seem to be a tad out of place for the level of camp that is prevalent through most of the series. I guess that changes when the show jumped to another network and becomes more uneven. Watching the series again now and am almost finished with s6.

Even season 1 included material like Buffy being confronted with her impending demise and breaking down. There's no punchline there. The presence of comedy doesn't mean that a work can't include serious bits, which is why that one guy's bafflement that anyone would have liked some in the movie was so cringey.

It’s not weird at all

You’re just too young to appreciate it

And that’s just how it goes with films

I said "camp" not comedy.

Sorry, I will edit my previous comment to replace the word "comedy" with "camp" at a later point; I don't have the time for that just now.

“Dude, you’re floating.”

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Maybe that was the moment he became a villain inside

I heard it's not actually a bad line, just that a subplot where Toad provides toad facts throughout the film got cut and so the joke designed to benefit from it falls flat.

Loved it, plus she was so hot back then

No, you see. There I was with all these young, attractive, and impressionable actresses working for me. It would have been a disservice if I hadn't exploited the situation!

The best version of Buffy in my opinion. Never liked the show and Kristy Swanson is awesome in this role, she really kicked a lot of ass.

To me it seemed like Reubens was the only actor who knew what kind of movie he was in. The movie was pretty campy and goofy. I think the TV show balanced the humor much better but we wouldn't have the show without the movie so it is what it is I guess

I’m not convinced it would have been funny even with the other cut lines. Halle Berry’s delivery is so serious.

I agree it's odd they kept the line yet deleted the run up to it. Wish we could see the original cut.

Loved this. Came out when I was in high school. In fact, I liked it so much that later when Buffy TV started I was disappointed it wasn't like the movie and bailed. Also, high school me really enjoyed Kristy Swanson.

Whedon hated what Fox did to his script. He wrote. He didn't direct it.

> we can do anything!

> oh yeah ? Clap.

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> kill her…. Kill her a lot.

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>Dude you’re flying !

I’m confused is this not a cult classic? I never watched the show but I loved this movie.