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butterguns t1_j2mqafd wrote

“Man fatally shot inside Gilford home after police fired gun”. The editor that worded this headline should be embarrassed with themselves.

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Maldonian t1_j2n1e6w wrote

WMUR employs idiots. They even had a headline a while back that was written as if the same man was executed twice.

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AlfoBootidir t1_j2neane wrote

Wmur is such a pathetic joke now

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Icy_River6319 t1_j2ptzlw wrote

I wrote them one time because the headline story on the app said “leaf-peeing” instead of “leaf-peeping” 😂

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volatica t1_j2no9j5 wrote

Probably not the editor's choice, they're probably "directed" to word headlines to avoid indicating police culpability.

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Proof-Brother1506 t1_j2pyrli wrote

Gilford man fatally shot by police.

Guilford police fatally shoot local (insert job) man at home.

Pulitzer please.

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tidally_locked t1_j2muy6s wrote

So... Police kill resident... because. Terrible police work (assumed since the citizen died) and terrible reporting. We don't really know what happened but somebody died at the hands of the police.

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Maldonian t1_j2n0t1k wrote

Well, we know from the article that the police were called to that address, and didn’t go there just because they felt like it.

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red204 t1_j2o72yg wrote

Cool, so this is how I can take care of my rowdy neighbors!

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Maldonian t1_j2n8nay wrote

I agree that the reporting is lackluster, but there probably isn't anything else to report until the incident is further investigated.

But how can you assume that the police work is "terrible" without good reporting? If you automatically assume that every time a suspect or perpetrator dies, it's the police's fault, that shows a lot of bias on your part.

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cpuenvy t1_j2o0n85 wrote

Well, there's also the fact that American cops killed the highest number of people on record for the USA in 2021.

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widget_fucker t1_j2o9grh wrote

Makes sense. We gained 20 + million people since 2010… then had a pandemic which fueled incredible division, inequality, domestic violence, and a rush on gun sales.

How many cops were killed by citizens in 2021 vs previous years?

The fact that more people were killed by police in 2021 needs additional analysis to draw any take-aways about police-work trends, especially ones that would lead a reporter to draw conclusions in this specific case.

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kells938 t1_j2n77wj wrote

Terrible police work but you don't even know what happened. Seems about right for this sub 🤔

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Imaskeet t1_j2o20k9 wrote

>Terrible police work...

>We don't really know what happened...

Do I even need to say anything myself to point out how idiotic this comment is?

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JayO28 t1_j2nq4sh wrote

He had a knife inside his house, because that's so uncommon, and that prompted police to perform a home invasion. Upon entering, they were met with force, and decided to overwhelm the man and kill him... Is what I gathered from this terribly-written article.

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TATA456alawaife t1_j2n2byv wrote

You want to know who else was killed at the hands of the police? John Wilkes Booth. Say His Name!

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TurnoverTall t1_j2n1e58 wrote

WMUR is not even HS level reporting

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valleyman02 OP t1_j2n7mht wrote

It's pretty embarrassing how bad production value at WMUR has dropped since they were sold. They used to be quaint and quirky. Not quite as polished as the Boston stations but a well done stand alone station.

Now not so much. You can almost feel the talent try and failing for lack of resources and backing.

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newbraces81 t1_j2pjphj wrote

Indeed!

I am old enough to remember when a news report we would routinely include such detailed information as follows.

Who, what when where, and why.

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PowPowPowerCrystal t1_j2nclwc wrote

Started reading the comments, am dumber. Boy it must be fun to construct a narrative with no facts.

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BellaPow t1_j2moerz wrote

acab

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Maldonian t1_j2n1jdw wrote

Yes, they really should have just left the guy alone and ignore the concerns of the person who called in.

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TiredCr0codile t1_j2n6ul9 wrote

Or the dipshit should have listened to officers

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Maldonian t1_j2n8co7 wrote

I know, right? He sure doesn't sound too smart. Pretty crappy he tied up valuable resources, but I'm glad he wasn't able to hurt any of the officers.

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lizyouwerebeer t1_j2nk6dq wrote

Reading this comment right after the one where you criticized someone for assuming the police work was bad is kinda funny. Seems like everyone is assuming shit here.

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P0Rt1ng4Duty t1_j2mq16f wrote

''No ongoing threat'' indeed.

Did the police all quit their jobs and turn in their guns? Or are they still out there shooting people for eating a chicken sandwich in the parking lot of KFC?

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fred-the-red-reddit t1_j2mqwov wrote

It was a Chick-Fil-A and he was practically asking for it.

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P0Rt1ng4Duty t1_j2nk7jo wrote

Was that a joke, or do you actually feel that way?

If so, could you please inform me as to what this young man was doing to 'ask for it?'

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fred-the-red-reddit t1_j2nldjq wrote

Nobody should be eating a chicken sandwich in a parking lot. He was a threat to society and had to be dealt with then and there

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smartest_kobold t1_j2mp630 wrote

The pigs shot a guy in his own damn house for holding a knife and that's the headline?

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Agreeable-Ad4233 t1_j2rto0b wrote

Weird that there seems to be a situation where it's appropriate to greet police with a knife.

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Maldonian t1_j2n8slj wrote

You think they just went to his house because they were bored?

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smartest_kobold t1_j2nbngh wrote

The police have incredible discretion in which incidents they respond to and how. So, that's a part of every police interaction.

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Maldonian t1_j2ncxi9 wrote

I agree with you for the most part. Police often can't even be bothered to come out for noise or parking complaints. But I can hardly imagine a situation where the police wouldn't respond to a domestic violence/threat of domestic violence complaint.

And yes, once they're there, how they respond to it does involve a lot of discretion. I'll agree with that. But the man with the knife had just as much discretion as the officers did, and seemingly chose not to use it. I know that neither you nor I were there, but from the article, the officers even tried using the taser first, and the suspect still chose to be shot rather than to put the knife down and be arrested.

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MiggySmalls6767 t1_j2nd5w2 wrote

So.. they should not have responded to another resident calling with concerns about a man with a knife?

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Maldonian t1_j2nem03 wrote

You said it better and in fewer words than I did.

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smartest_kobold t1_j2norig wrote

First, the article doesn't clarify who called in the report. Second, it's too early to tell. A man holding a knife in a house in and of itself doesn't warrant police attention. Third, the headline and article are written in a weird way by separating the firing of the officer's gun and the guy getting shot.

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Agreeable-Ad4233 t1_j2rtzxx wrote

A man inside a house holding a knife, by itself, is not even observable never mind reportable. This should be common sense.

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Maldonian t1_j2n1aha wrote

Redditors will think I’m quirky and weird, but just for the heck of it, I spent my entire New Year’s Day with every knife I own put away. And then none of the people I live with called the police. I also didn’t brandish any of my knives around police officers.

And then, guess what happened? Here I am this morning, alive and not shot by the police. Weather seems nice today too.

That guy in Gilford sure had a strange way of celebrating the holidays.

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tarac73 t1_j2n44r0 wrote

Probably had mental health issues. Ever think of that? And also ACAB. So… yeah. Good for you though.

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Maldonian t1_j2n93g8 wrote

Why are you making assumptions about the guy's mental health? Isn't it possible that he was just an asshole? Or stupid? Or both?

Also, if I may ask a personal question, how did you celebrate New Year's Day yesterday? Did you engage in any activity that caused the people around you to call the police? Did you threaten anyone with a knife? Somehow my guess is no to both. That's one of the reasons you woke up alive today.

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tarac73 t1_j2ng23g wrote

There are plenty of ways to deal with someone wielding a knife… I am almost 100% sure even without a full story that they didn’t have to shoot and kill this guy.

But you keep on licking the boots. It’s ok, I know it’s a hard habit to break.

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widget_fucker t1_j2oaxsb wrote

Probably drunk. Which can make even normal people have mental health issues/assholes/stupid… given the right circumstances.

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FortitudeWisdom t1_j2nh8md wrote

Who decided to play the loud music with the video? lol I'm trying to listen to the news!

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FaustusC t1_j2nqjv7 wrote

"According to investigators, officers were initially called to a home on Varney Point Road just before 10 p.m. Sunday for reports of a resident armed with a knife."

All I had to read tbh.

We know nothing else.

Someone, sounds like a member of his household called this in, which means they felt unsafe.

Bad things happen, but they happen less often if you comply and sue later.

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cpuenvy t1_j2o17q2 wrote

Ever hear of qualified immunity?

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FaustusC t1_j2omfp2 wrote

Ever hear of..uh... Not fighting people pointing firearms at you?

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Agreeable-Ad4233 t1_j2rvj9b wrote

>it's-ok-to-greet-police-with-knives-at-your-castle-why-u-shoot?

But same commenter in another news story: "He shouldn't have run", or "Bet he got PR bail". Doesn't take much scrolling to find these, really.

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tarac73 t1_j2n3ygn wrote

r/ACAB

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Maldonian t1_j2n8tz6 wrote

All stabbers are bastards.

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tarac73 t1_j2ng878 wrote

Until we know the full story, no. But always ACAB…

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