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TimeTravelMishap t1_j4ttv0b wrote
Isn't that the town where you have to keep all cars unlocked incase someone needs to get away from a bear?
eu_sou_ninguem t1_j4tu21a wrote
That's the one!
AwesomeBrainPowers t1_j4tyrbn wrote
I have questions (which you may or may not be able to answer):
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Is petty, car-related crime like radio theft a problem there?
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At what level of "persistent threat of polar bear attack" do (or should) area residents recognize a problem that is probably best resolved by ceding the land back to the local (huge and predatory) wildlife?
mtarascio t1_j4u3rtc wrote
Everyone knows everyone in these communities and it's not like people can just drive a town over to them.
You'd be more likely to have someone find a spare and install without asking you.
gnarfler t1_j4u0cp0 wrote
I guess that it’s so remote the community is so small that living out there requires trust and cooperation.
AwesomeBrainPowers t1_j4u0fa9 wrote
> trust and cooperation
Sorry, I'm American; can you translate that from Canadian for me?
gnarfler t1_j4u18xq wrote
“Well what you got there son is a wild liberal on the loose. I don’t blame ya if you wanna try to shoot it, not at all. What we do round here is leave our cars unlocked in case that liberal gets too vicious. We can all hear your cries for help so don’t bother tryna steal anything cause we’ll know who done it. They call that trust and cooperation round here.”
Khaldara t1_j4v8c4t wrote
“Now see here, sharing a resource for the safety and common good of the community’s inhabitants sounds like that there commusocialisms that Tucker told me was the devil in between cash for gold ads and bemoaning the loss of the Snickers dick vein! What if onna them gays or a brown person needs to escape from a polar bear? No siree, no thank you. We ain’t doin that. I’d rather be eviscerated, you know, to own the libs!”
WalkerBRiley t1_j50nle1 wrote
Yea this is more believable over the prior one. Republicans in the states would be more likely to lock you out of the car to distract the bear from themselves than let you in to save both of you.
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NeverSober1900 t1_j4vrfnf wrote
This is pretty standard in rural Alaska as well it's not just a Canadian thing. When the weather can kill you and you know most of the people around you people in general are very willing to help.
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turdballer69 t1_j4wffds wrote
Is there a Trust and Cooperation, Alaska like there’s a Truth or Consequence, New Mexico?
2459-8143-2844 t1_j4v1vzc wrote
Do people steal car radios anymore? Can you even remove the radios in New cars like the old ones?
StillLifeOnSkates t1_j4v2u6r wrote
They don't. I Googled it some years back. Here's an article from 2009 on the topic: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101998015
2459-8143-2844 t1_j4v692w wrote
It got me wondering if there's an old-school car stereo community. Yeah, it looks like there is.
Shakawkarl t1_j4xh6k6 wrote
Apparently it does still happen sometimes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/10exeqm/someone_broke_into_my_car_but_then_they_just_had/
fighttodie t1_j4u07hn wrote
Oh silly humans don't cede shit. If anything the question is how long until they get culled
LowBornArcher t1_j4wbh6z wrote
"ceding the land back", well the indigenous people who have lived there for 1000's of years might have something to say about that. We are part of nature, not somehow above it, and we don't have to apologize for merely existing.
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Elipticalwheel1 t1_j4um66w wrote
Yep, Polar Bears have to eat, if the human invade there territory and eat all there food, what else do they expect.
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ButterflyAttack t1_j4u006w wrote
Or maybe just feed them outside of town?
Omegalazarus t1_j4u019y wrote
Or sitting the herd for the good of the rest. Like I seriously mean responsibly doing it not talking about just destroying the polar bears.
AwesomeBrainPowers t1_j4u08rw wrote
They're classified as a vulnerable species with rapidly-dwindling habitat; I don't think culling the population is any kind of solution.
Omegalazarus t1_j4u0kqr wrote
Oh okay. Bummer.
Seaniard t1_j4ufu29 wrote
Bummer that they're dying off or a bummer you don't get to shoot them?
ThatOneKrazyKaptain t1_j4u2y4d wrote
Thin out their numbers 🔥
Philosorunner t1_j4ydcw0 wrote
What if the bear can drive too?
marasydnyjade t1_j4xsfpp wrote
Fun fact: this village - Wales - doesn’t have any cars.
It’s only accessible by plane/helicopter, boat or snowmobile in the winter.
LegalAction t1_j4ysqse wrote
What keeps the planes, helicopters, and boats away in the summer?
marasydnyjade t1_j4yufur wrote
Okay, I admit I was missing some punctuation there.
However, oddly enough, Wales is a couple miles(?) from Big/Little Diomede and Little Diomede, which is the US island, is only accessible by helicopter/boat (year-round, weather permitting) or plane (only in winter). It can only be accessed by plane in the winter because the straight between the Diomede islands ices over and a plane can use that as a runway. Otherwise there isn’t a runway on Little Diomede.
I’ve been to the village of Wales (twice) and it was unbelievable how remote the village was. Wales also happens to be the westernmost part of the U.S.
david4069 t1_j4z3x2m wrote
> or plane (only in winter). It can only be accessed by plane in the winter because the straight between the Diomede islands ices over and a plane can use that as a runway. Otherwise there isn’t a runway on Little Diomede.
It's been many years since they were able to do that. Now it's all helicopter.
> Wales also happens to be the westernmost part of the U.S.
Perhaps the westernmost part of the continental US, but there are many occupied places further west, such as Diomede, Saint Lawrence Island, and the western parts of the Aleutians.
marasydnyjade t1_j4z3ztp wrote
Yes, continental U.S. I’m fucking shit up left and right today.
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Hakuryuu2K t1_j4vmvdx wrote
I think they do that in most villages in Alaska where Polar Bears wonder into town. They did this in Utqiagvik where I was based for a few months
taybay462 t1_j4tzu2b wrote
Another side effect of climate change. Apex predators suffer, will become more desperate and seek out lesser preferred food sources. Apocalypse: predators turn on humans is a new, interesting fear
immalittlepiggy t1_j4tts4o wrote
I’m not experienced with polar bears, but I do live in an area with a lot of black bears. Almost every time one comes into a town it’s found digging through a dumpster with food in it.
Blenderx06 t1_j4tuu8g wrote
Sure but it's a different situation with polar bears, who rely on getting out on the sea ice to hunt their main sources of food. With global warming, they are literally starving.
Cranktique t1_j4tv4v0 wrote
Ya, black bears are just lazy jerks sometimes :).
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Doright36 t1_j4u6k3y wrote
Black Bears are not as aggressive as Polar Bears. If they attack you it's most likely either starving to death or protecting cubs. Not saying you should feel safe dancing in your knickers in front of one but you are much more likely to have a polar bear rip your face off if it sees you than a Black Bear which will most likely just waddle off into the woods giving you passive aggressive looks over it's shoulder.
CryptidGrimnoir t1_j4umrrq wrote
Attacks in defense of their cubs are actually fairly rare--black bears are more apt to chase their cubs up a tree and then stand their ground.
Black bear attacks tend to be predation or defending a food source--which is why if attacked by a black bear, you must fight back with everything you've got.
Grizzly bears are more aggressive, so they do tend to attack for defensive reasons, but in that case, the best defensive action is to play dead.
bird1979 t1_j4upb73 wrote
I've heard if the bear is Black, attack. if Brown, lay down. White, goodnight.
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LowBornArcher t1_j4wc7yp wrote
Fellow Manitoban...one of the more interesting bear related stories I've seen over the last few years if the re-establishment of Grizzly bears in Northern MB. Was another great story about how the polar bears around Hudson bay are learning to hunt beluga whales!
infinus5 t1_j4w4enc wrote
Bears in general are scavengers so it's not unusual to see them snooping through garbage. What sucks is when people leave their garbage out so bears get at it.
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TheManInTheShack t1_j4tuqda wrote
Pretty sure polar bears are the most dangerous land animals a person can encounter.
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extropia t1_j4uhf7z wrote
Lol "It'd be close" with a dolphin?! Are they picturing fighting them on land? There's no way a human could even come close to defeating them in water.
The_Legend_of_Xeno t1_j4v3bcd wrote
Let me get a thumb in that blowhole and let's see what's up.
dwilkes827 t1_j4wcmfw wrote
Thumb isn't girthy enough to plug it, is there another option?
TheGildedDildoArises t1_j4wd80o wrote
I can think of something ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
The_Legend_of_Xeno t1_j4wg7g7 wrote
They don't call it a blowhole for nothing.
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CryptidGrimnoir t1_j4umw32 wrote
I think people would consider a dolphin attacking them close to shore--and for better or worse, dolphins don't really have an aggressive reputation among the public.
I don't know of anyone who is afraid of a dolphin--not even someone who is afraid of an orca--but people are afraid of sharks.
fellowcrft t1_j4unayv wrote
I have swam and dived with pods of dolphins. Many times . I am weary as fuck of dolphins. Sure... Awesome sentient beings... Friendly, playful and inquisitive yet at the end of the day they are fucking Apex Predators. I have seen three dolphins kill a 4 meter tiger shark before...
Portalrules123 t1_j4wj6gu wrote
Dolphins are the humans of the sea.
Meaning you SHOULD be at least mildly nervous at all times around them, I would say. I think some dolphins have been shown to kill just for fun too, another human analogy there.
MattyEC t1_j4wua7a wrote
I feel like Orcas should get that nod. Slicing out shark livers and dumping the rest of the body, passing on cultural memes to learn how to hunt their surrounding wild life... freaky smart and right up there with dolphins.
Portalrules123 t1_j4xpewb wrote
Orcas ARE dolphins, no? Or at least in the dolphin family?
fellowcrft t1_j51aekx wrote
They belong to the oceanic dolphin family..
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fellowcrft t1_j51a7yg wrote
%100 agree with you
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nerdtypething t1_j4uurfa wrote
well i know dolphins can bludgeon sharks to death so that seems plenty aggressive to me.
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RescuesStrayKittens t1_j4x6pcl wrote
Also “it’d be close, but I’d win” with a viper?! Sorry pal, it wouldn’t be close, and you wouldn’t win.
Trazenthebloodraven t1_j4uttsx wrote
God that list is so wrong it hurts. They think they can beat swans or peacocks. Or that they have a 50 50 against goats. Lol fucking city dwellers that never seen what an angry goat can do. But the biggest joke is zebra, they can one tap lions and whoever made this list thinks they have a chance.
dan_v_ploeg t1_j4uw4lv wrote
While we're on the discussion, I'm a very physically fit blue collar worker, and I'm am one hundred percent confident in my ability to kill a swan with my bare hands. I think I could also beat a goat in 6-8 fights out of 10.
Trazenthebloodraven t1_j4ux2jl wrote
A goat can break most of bones in your body with a single head but. If it hits your skull your out dead. It's horns are sharp if it's a bigger bread they might weigh more than you and they hoofs are very sharp. They got mad jumps as well and they have more crack head engery than most of Frankfurt and the stamina to boot.
Swans are more harmless they can't hurt you to bad, but they are aggressiv and have 0 respect for anything. They are what geese think they are.
Sure they won't kill you but the average person is probably gona panic when upwards of 10 kg of agnry feathers are in your face. In a death cage match sure I give it you in their naturalhabit where it's more likely the swan takes it low to medium diff.
Peacocks may look harmless but they got every sharp murder claws the reason you see them in zoos they are fairly gentle creatures and their claws get trimed.
Another 50 50 you would lose 100%or the time is cows I hope I don't need to elaborate.
Fucking city people./s
Wrecker013 t1_j4v0757 wrote
You are severely underestimating human ability in fighting for their life lol, zebras and cows and other large animals sure but doubting human victory against a swan or a peacock or a goat? Got another thing coming lol
Trazenthebloodraven t1_j4v20ao wrote
In the post you are replying to I said the cage death match the human is winning. In the wild in an AVRAGE natural encounter against the AVRAGE PERSON the animal takes it. If you seen how they can mess someone up or have ever been attacked by a swan you would agree.
Animal are very dangerous even most of the fluffy ones. We didn't genocide them in 1v1s but with weapons big pointy sticks and their was a lot of us like way way way more.
WalkerBRiley t1_j50ogt4 wrote
I'm wondering just how small you guys' dicks are that you have to brag about how well you'd kill a fucking swan to make up for it.
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dan_v_ploeg t1_j4uxhw8 wrote
Never fucked around with a peacock which is why I didn't say anything about them in my first comment. I've also worked with plenty of farm animals and I have no doubt a cow would stomp my shit in. But I still stand by my ability to kill a goat, I've delt with them plenty before and if you're smart they're not too big of a problem.
The average fat ass American would likely have a problem taking on a goat though.
Trazenthebloodraven t1_j4uxuyc wrote
And I have seen plenty of people be very hurt and kids hospilitased by goats which is why I know the AVRAGE person will go down. If you know how to deal with an animal are somewhat fit and have solid clothes sure, then you can deal with alot more animals Ina fight but then you aren't the average person in an average situation.
dan_v_ploeg t1_j4uy4j7 wrote
Yes, as I stated in my first comment I am not a child.
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xNotWorkingATMx t1_j4vktln wrote
I have fought off a swan that attacked me, i didn't want to kill it so i ran away. If it would have been a fight to death i easily would have killed it.
You've played too much d&d and have lost touch with reality if you think a swan kills the average human.
Also not saying everyone can do this but there are people that were facing death and have killed sharks, bears and various big cats.
Adrenaline rush is crazy.
MPUtf8Nzvh6kzhKq t1_j4xyqud wrote
>Also not saying everyone can do this but there are people that were facing death and have killed sharks, bears and various big cats.
It's more, I would say, laughing at the absurdity of the confidence and certainty. Sure, people have had exceptional outcomes in life or death situations (though with the sorts of ones you mention, they are more often matters of dissuading the attacker from continuing, especially since sharks and big cats often don't want to get into protracted fights).
But a cow of the sort shown in that list is probably going to weigh around 600 kg, and bulls, when angry, are extremely dangerous; probably more dangerous than a horse. Even with horses, control of a horse as an individual is based, ultimately, on it deciding to do what you ask it to do; they tend to be most dangerous, and can easily accidentally kill someone, when they are panicking. Meanwhile, seals can be much heavier and more agile than they seem when seen out of water. These are not "50/50 chance" situations. And with sheep in some "I'd have no problem" category: a friend of mine who works with animals points out with annoyance that people unaccustomed to livestock often joke to her with confidence and bluster about what they'd do if a ram tried to attack them: she points out that, no, if a fully grown ram wants to fight them, that would probably go very differently than they expect.
If anything, the list is both hilarious and annoying in how it seems to be entirely built around stereotypical perceptions of animals as 'cute', 'violent', 'giant', 'tiny', and so on, without it necessarily making much sense. Trying to fight a cow or a zebra is probably going to be much more dangerous than trying to fight a cheetah, the reverse of what the list suggests people think, because cheetahs are comparatively small, skittish ambush predators that are going to run away from a fight. There's often just a complete misunderstanding of the weight and strength of seemingly cute domestic animals. And while it's presumably there to be completely ridiculous, you're not going to lose a fight with a large baleen whale, because a large baleen whale is not going to get into a fight with you.
But in general, there's a weird obsession of people about how they could beat up animals.
NikeSwish t1_j4vctin wrote
Swans or peacocks? I would put those things as soon as they got close to me
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DragoonDM t1_j4wf8h6 wrote
The absence of hippos in the most dangerous tier makes me doubt the veracity of this list. Also seems like cows and zebras are being underestimated, and cheetahs are probably being overestimated.
Source: wild guesswork and armchair zoology.
iTwango t1_j4u4p3f wrote
I must be missing something cus I don't see bears there lol
RivinX t1_j4u5zjp wrote
Look in the too scared to fight category
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HoratioMG t1_j4udmzp wrote
Lol why do people always underestimate swans?
Same category as a cat and a parrot...
ActualMis t1_j4uqazx wrote
Swans aren't very dangerous. The whole "a swan can break a man's arm" thing is a total myth.
>You may be left with someone bruising if you’re the target of their feathered frenzy, but since swan bones are much thinner than that of a human (and hollow) they would be hard-pressed to do any lasting damage. Some bird experts suggest that it’s more likely a swan would hurt itself if its attack was so intense.
thejoeface t1_j4txb6e wrote
Polar bears are categorized as marine mammals, so i’d count them as the most dangerous on land AND sea
TheManInTheShack t1_j4w7xq7 wrote
I didn’t know that. Interesting.
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AwesomeBrainPowers t1_j4tzyxb wrote
Well, for a start:
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The US government's Marine Mammal Commission
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The journal Nature
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Oh, and their scientific name is Ursus maritimus, which literally means "bear of the sea".
DanDanTeacherMan t1_j4unfju wrote
Damn DEATH-BY-AwesomeBrainPowers
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Omegalazarus t1_j4u0ath wrote
Some of them enlisted to fight the commies.
AlexandersWonder t1_j4v5vfw wrote
Hippopotamus kill 500 hundred people every year
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Voldemort57 t1_j4vq0g9 wrote
Fun fact: polar bears are actually marine mammals as they spend most of their time in/on water!
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macross1984 t1_j4tu6nm wrote
Tragic for both humans and the bear.
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Shymink t1_j4uc23c wrote
If it is brown, lie down. If it is black, fight back. If it is white, goodnight.
Holds true.
Sundancekid9000 t1_j4vrz1y wrote
You can’t run, you can’t wait for back up, sometimes the only way to survive is to attack with restless abandon. It’ll probably fuck you up, but you never know, animals will sometimes give up if the meal isn’t worth the cost of the fight. However if it’s hungry, your most likely fucked, but at least you’ll have died so another living creature can survive. Plus you’ll become bear poop, and being bear poop is so fetch.
gmo_patrol t1_j4vol52 wrote
Last thing I'd do if a grizzly lurching towards me is lay down. I'd just walk away backwards or climb a tree and cut it if it tries to climb
jungles_fury t1_j4uqjkb wrote
Pretty lame. Bear spray works on all mammals
facebookeatsbabies t1_j4uzrk1 wrote
polar bears are uniquely scary
jungles_fury t1_j4v0jmw wrote
And bear spray still works. Polar bears are the only ones I've ever been around so I can't compare.
b1gt0nka t1_j4vc789 wrote
lol no it doesn't all the time. At the Suncor gas plant in Alberta a few years back someone was literally trying to spray the bear point blank while it attacked someone and it didn't scare the bear off.
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facebookeatsbabies t1_j4xdnlx wrote
look man all I'm saying is a polar bear would look god in the eye and wonder what he tastes like first and foremost
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Dwayla t1_j4uz75y wrote
The bear was hungry I'm sure. Bless them, all of them.
wholesomelygloomy t1_j4ys36z wrote
Seeing a lot of confusion in this thread ^just ^like ^I ^did ^last ^time ^there ^was ^a ^bear ^attack ^in ^Alaska, so:
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The bear was a starving juvenile. It had chased several people already before attacking a mother and child.
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It was shot dead by a local as it was attacking the pair. The local was attempting to save the family.
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This occurred on the Seward Peninsula in a very small village. It's in northwest Alaska off the Chukchi Sea, which is where you'll find the Bering Strait. Polar bears are not found in the interior or the south. 99.9% of Alaskans do not have to worry about Polar bears because you're only going to find them on the very edges of the northwestern and western coasts, and even the people that live in those areas are unlikely to have to deal with bears too often. The only reason they are now is because climate change is forcing them to look for food further inland.
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If you are in the incredibly, insanely off chance situation of getting attacked by a polar bear, your choices: A. Hope you're already carrying either bear spray or a gun B. If those don't work, look for shelter; a car, a house, etc. C. Try dropping objects, clothing, or food behind you to district the bear. D. If you are out in the middle of nowhere, keep running until the bear catches up, fight back when applicable, and then rest in peace because I don't have any other suggestions. We really don't have a lot of info on how to deal with polar bears because generally speaking, human civilization and polar bear habitats don't overlap all that much.
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I live in an area with alligators, salt water crocodiles (unconfirmed sightings in my area but definitely present a couple hundred miles South of me), wild hogs that WILL fuck you up, five species of venomous snakes, and Bull Sharks in the river behind my house. I respect all of them, but I don't fear them, and I've lived in close proximity to them for decades with no issues or bad incidents.
Bears in general give me the heebie jeebies, and Polar Bears in particular scare the absolute shit out of me. I can't imagine living in an area with Polar Bears. I don't think I'd ever get a good night's sleep if I did.
oceanicfeels t1_j4ye9po wrote
In Svalbard it's basically compulsory to carry a rifle around with you.
11fingerfreak t1_j4wo6yj wrote
We destroyed their natural habit and were tasty. Not exactly a surprise.
antiglorious t1_j5075cp wrote
I don't think we're all that tasty, but it that's the only thing you got to eat.
foxrun89 t1_j4vziel wrote
This is going to become a lot more prevalent and will likely end with humanity killing them off because we are “above the food chain”.
Pick-Only t1_j559qeh wrote
Well if they’re killing people then yes I agree with it. Do we just brush it off like it’s normal? People before animals. If it ends with their extinction oh well.
foxrun89 t1_j55a3n0 wrote
We’re all going to die in the mass extinction event, so you’re right it doesn’t really matter.
IrishRogue3 t1_j4wql6i wrote
What I want to know is why the bear wondered in- is there a problem with its primary food source?
CharlotteTheHarlot22 t1_j4z3yfd wrote
There's a problem with almost EVERY polar bears food source...
SgtWaffleSound t1_j50u3z2 wrote
Polar bears rely on the sea ice to catch seals, their primary food source. The sea ice is melting faster and faster every year due to climate change. Many hungry bears are going after larger and more dangerous prey like walrus and humans out of desperation.
IrishRogue3 t1_j50v3wa wrote
This is just so incredibly sad.
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BrutusGregori t1_j4y01z1 wrote
If it's white say goodnight. You need magnum loads to even harm these walking tanks.
oceanicfeels t1_j4ydznr wrote
Speaking of taking white magnum loads, your mom says hi.
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Miffers t1_j4y3x8g wrote
Is there even a home in Alaska that is polar bear proof?
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burnbabyburn711 t1_j52f57d wrote
We’re going to see this more and more as the effects of climate change cause mass extinction.
blueskies1800 t1_j53jq6x wrote
I wonder if there's a backstory.
kocknocker19 t1_j54igd5 wrote
Grizzly bears scare me more despite knowing that Polars are more dangerous and only eat meat..I guess cause we generally hear and see them more/more attacks
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Elipticalwheel1 t1_j4ulxyr wrote
Don’t they mean, humans entered Polar Bear territory and was fatally mauled, ie polar Bears was there first.
Hamish53 t1_j4vhcbx wrote
Where do you live that didn’t have wild animals there first ?
Elipticalwheel1 t1_j4w0b37 wrote
There isn’t a place on earth. Polar Bears have to eat, if you are unfortunate enough to be in its sights, then you could end up being it’s next meal, that’s nature.
Hamish53 t1_j4wjucc wrote
Uh yeah. I am aware of how nature works and I certainly don’t begrudge the bear for doing what is natural especially in light of the unnatural climate man has created .
Perhaps I am mistaken but your comment that the humans entered where the polar bears were there first in reference to the sad deaths of an indigenous mother and child struck me as judgmental , patronizing and just unnecessary victim blaming .
Why throw stones from afar ? If you want to blame someone pick on Exxon or the moron who says that climate change is a Chinese hoax . W It’s not like the mother and child climbed into a cage at the zoo .
If it helps- source - I work with endangered species / and invasive species
Elipticalwheel1 t1_j4wlne2 wrote
Sorry if it sounded judgmental, it wasn’t supposed to be, but yes I do agree that because of the climate, with the areas shrinking, that is bringing the polar bears into closer contact with human.
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Biomax315 t1_j4umayg wrote
Polar bear just doing polar bear shit.
Hamish53 t1_j4wka57 wrote
This is unquestionably true and as ecosystems collapse we will see more unusual predation even amongst people and species who don’t live in places where by definition inhabitants must adapt and work with the natural world .
Starving animals and people do unusual things.
brogrammer9k t1_j4uq2t2 wrote
This is in a very rural part of alaska, chances are these two were alaska native and their people have been here just as long as polar bears.
The nihilistic take when humans die to animals is really fucking dumb. A mother and child were eaten alive, that is fucking horrifying.
Hopefully they blasted it straight to hell.
GWS2004 t1_j4v4t22 wrote
You think they're response is dumb? Yet you want the polar bear to go to hell?? 🤨
brogrammer9k t1_j4vlfk4 wrote
their* and its an expression.
Carnivores that kill humans for prey should be put down. Not out of revenge but to prevent them from associating humans as a food source.
fusrohdave t1_j4vpuze wrote
Humans aren’t more important than animals. In fact, we are just other animals that are aware of the concept of self. It’s the food chain. Is it sad? Yes. But it’s nature. Maybe if we didn’t encroach on their territory at the same time as destroying their natural habitat this wouldn’t happen. Bears just being a bear.
I’ll go on record and say If a bear kills and eats me, let him live and chill. His life is just as important.
brogrammer9k t1_j4xlr37 wrote
Its pretty much standard wildlife conservation 101 with predators that any predator that kills humans and eats them is likely to do it again. Your feelings about leaving the bear be would not matter because not doing anything would put other people, vulnerable people in danger. The people who go to school and spend their careers studying and protecting these animals are the same ones who make the calls to euthanize them when this happens. Just because you empathize with the bear doesnt change how the Biologists with Fish and Game operate.
fusrohdave t1_j4yh4u8 wrote
Hate to break it to you but I know first hand that that is not “wildlife conservation 101”. First thing they do is relocate, far away from any civilization. They want the bear to live, especially when the animal is endangered. At the same time factors that led to the incident are addressed as best as they can be. In this case that would be difficult. Only as a last resort are they euthanized. If you’d actually like to learn anything, there’s actually a lot of good resources available with the WCS.
We also aren’t talking about some downtown suburbs. It’s a remote Alaskan village. There’s an entirely different set of circumstances.
brogrammer9k t1_j52ady3 wrote
carnivores that have killed humans are certainly not relocated.
The WCS has no actual jurisdiction on what happens to animals that have killed people, especially not in the state of alaska. Every single instance of an identified wild predator killing someone (especially in Alaska) has ended with the dept of fish and game or state troopers eliminating the animal.
The WCS has about as much a say in what happens with dangerous animals as MAAD has about legislation that DOT is responsible for.
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fusrohdave t1_j4vpfij wrote
I know you’re being downvoted to hell but I totally agree. Bears just doing bear things. It’s really sad that it happened but this is what happens when we not only encroach on their territory but also allow their habitat to shrink so much.
I don’t get why humans put their lives so much higher than other species. If a bear kills a different animal it’s nature but if they kill a human it’s a tragedy.
Hope the bear isn’t killed.
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Elipticalwheel1 t1_j4vzif6 wrote
Yep, obviously the people that have down voted are pretty ignorant of nature, after all, the polar Bear has only killed another predator.
Hamish53 t1_j4wkkr3 wrote
Smug much ?
Hamish53 t1_j4wl995 wrote
I would bet my arm that the mother who was eaten with her child was more aware of and in tune with nature, bears predation etc then someone who mocks their death on keyboard as if humans are somehow entirely distinct from the natural world .
fusrohdave t1_j4wdg2o wrote
Exactly. If we are hungry we go kill an animal to eat it so we don’t starve. The bear did the same thing. It’s not it’s fault that the only thing available to it was this woman and a child. We’ve been saying for years if we don’t get climate change and expansion under control then eventually this was gonna happen. Now it does and people are shocked. It’s ridiculous
wistoon33 t1_j4v6b31 wrote
People have been in the Seward Peninsula for 30,000 years.
Elipticalwheel1 t1_j4v79gn wrote
Polar Bears probably a lot longer. But if you live along side wild animals, it’s obvious things like that will happen. I bet more polar bears have been killed by humans, that humans have been killed by polar Bears.
eu_sou_ninguem t1_j4tsu9w wrote
That's really tragic. I'm not sure, since the article doesn't mention it, but the bear was probably looking for food. Here in Manitoba, we have Churchill which is known as the polar bear capital of the world. You can see polar bears digging through trash and it's absolutely heartbreaking.