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sensitivepistachenut t1_iua0f7f wrote

He's an antisemitist gayfish, so lqbtq+ matters were taken account too

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Fourty9 t1_iuae5pt wrote

Did he say anything antiemetic or say that he could and get away with it?

Edit: gotta love Reddit where if you ask a question you get downvoted

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monkeyhind t1_iuag1xf wrote

>Ye has sparked widespread condemnation, been temporarily banned from leading social media platforms

Only banned "temporarily?" That's too bad.

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zxcoblex t1_iuaisno wrote

Reminds me of the black guy who said Trump had done more for black people than anyone else because he caused the veil of racism to be lifted.

Can’t fix the problems until you understand exactly where they are and how deep they go.

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HarryHacker42 t1_iuaj1ge wrote

I wish he'd buy Parler and rename it Twatter so we had billionaires running Twitter, Twatter, and Truther

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CthuluTheGrand t1_iuaomr5 wrote

Honestly what happened to him? Going on these hateful rants seem rather new. What triggered it?

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darkhawkabove t1_iuarpc9 wrote

Is it yee or yay? I can see both sides...

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grootdoos1 t1_iuaub8a wrote

What this moron doesn't understand is that one they are done with the Jews they will come for the blacks and there is no way around the fact that no matter what he says he will always be black.

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Twerks4Jesus t1_iub0qtr wrote

The same NYT columnist that said markets will solve climate change? 🤡 I’m shocked he’s not on the Wall Street Journal editorial board.

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digitalacid t1_iub3gfz wrote

Time to get your Summit Ice gear

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i-might-do-that t1_iub5apn wrote

Stop keeping stupid people famous. Next time he releases an album that nobody actually likes, then mention him. But to see his dumbass bloated countenance around every five minutes is only helping keep him relevant for some reason.

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Xaero_Hour t1_iub6zzp wrote

Replying to CthuluTheGrand (#324,823)

Not treating his bipolar disorder, unchecked ego tripping for decades, a messy public divorce, and charlatans taking advantage of him to parrot things he very clearly doesn't understand.

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Edit: Wow. Some of y'all need to read more than 5 words before you jump down my throat over something I never said. At no point did I say bipolar disorder was the cause of his antisemitism. It just made his handling of stressors and life-changing traumas worse. And when you're in that state, that's when the conspiracy theorists get you.

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Minerboiii t1_iub8a9l wrote

I mean, I feel like most people didn’t even know antisemitism was a word til he said something anti Semitic

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etorres4u t1_iubci5a wrote

Replying to grootdoos1 (#325,797)

They already go after blacks and latinos. Unfortunately this society tolerates it to a certain degree. Hell publicly being a white nationalist who hates blacks and latinos is what git Donald Trump elected president and is the reason why the Republican base loves him to this day. White nationalism and racism are pretty much a prerequisite to be elected in the Republican primaries today.

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LimeMime565 t1_iubdg5r wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#329,311)

Regardless of him being a bad person he definitely has some mental issues like bipolar disorder. Just being a bad person doesn't mean you suddenly don't have a mental health disorder.

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countryyoga t1_iube74p wrote

Replying to LimeMime565 (#329,428)

Great, but I also have bipolar disorder and I'm not a bigot or a mean person. Mental health issues DO NOT give people the right to be assholes. Mental health issues certainly can make it easy to be an asshole, but if anything it puts a greater responsibility on them to keep themselves in check.

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Octopus_Tenderloin t1_iubec60 wrote

If you can't be an example for others, you can at least be a warning

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JebryathHS t1_iubgss0 wrote

Replying to Fluffy-Impression190 (#328,377)

It was a similar approach to Reddit admins. Ignore the myriad pockets of hate speech until someone makes an article on them that goes viral, then ban everyone mentioned in the article. Surprised /r/conspiracy hasn't made it there given, you know, the constant racism and lunacy.

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JebryathHS t1_iubh8i3 wrote

Replying to sensitivepistachenut (#320,532)

My favorite part of that was watching the interview where the writer explains that they went around the table, trying to figure out which celebrity wouldn't get that the joke wasn't a personal attack... Then watching Kanye interviews from more than a decade after the episode aired where he's still trying to figure out why they called him a gay fish.

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WayeeCool t1_iubjk83 wrote

Replying to JebryathHS (#330,130)

That's fk'd up. There are entire thriving communities centered around people-watching the users of r conspiracy steadily lose their minds. Wtf would r/TopMindsOfReddit do with themselves if r conspiracy was banned?

/s obviously

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AlfieOwens t1_iubkr9c wrote

Replying to CthuluTheGrand (#324,823)

CNN recently reported that he’s been telling friends about his admiration of Hitler for years. Evidently he said something similar to a TMZ reporter in 2018 (the “slavery is a choice” interview) but editors cut it out of the story.

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omegashadow t1_iubl02a wrote

Replying to CthuluTheGrand (#324,823)

He's right wing and came out swinging extra hard. People talk about mental illness a lot but bipolar disorder does not make you an anti semite.

He's been like this since at least 2016 but finally he broke the camels back.

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ChickenNuggetator t1_iubmwyy wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#329,311)

Mental health issues going untreated combined with being rich enough that people blow smoke up your ass all the time is definitely part of the reason. No one's saying it makes it any more acceptable, but he could likely improve with treatment.

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ChickenNuggetator t1_iubncjp wrote

Replying to omegashadow (#330,981)

That's true but if you think of it like a susceptibility to crazy conspiracy theories rather than being an antisemite alone it makes a little more sense. I met a guy who proclaimed himself to be God at the end of a rant about snakes keeping on sneaking into his house at night to slither over him. There really is no limit sometimes when something is off in the brain.

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Willingo t1_iubpcvh wrote

Replying to LimeMime565 (#329,428)

He's not at fault for his disorder, but he is responsible to have it treated. If he were poor you might excuse not being treated, but he clearly had the means.

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fanboi_central t1_iubqo0n wrote

Why does the NYT have employees with terrible takes. I'm pretty far left, but why the fuck do you have people who think racism against whites isn't real and that Ye is somehow helping Jews with his awareness. Want to thank Hitler next for creating Israel?

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fanboi_central t1_iubquih wrote

Replying to CthuluTheGrand (#324,823)

It isn't, he's been showing this type of behavior since 2007. This rant is making a lot of the news because it's anti-Semitic, but if you've paid attention to him then you'd know this is very much in line with him.

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kenxzero t1_iubs1dj wrote

I hate it when himself and other refer to him as "ye", I call him "CON". For balance.

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TheStephenKingest t1_iubttix wrote

Yes, and I would like to thank cancer for bringing awareness to cancer. So brave.

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cristeal t1_iubuveg wrote

Yeah, thanks Ye. You made passive antisemitism more acceptable, but at least you reminded the goyem that antisemitism happens.

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RamenTheory t1_iuc02pv wrote

Replying to Xaero_Hour (#328,264)

With all due respect, how does bipolar disorder factor into this? Being bipolar doesn't make somebody a hateful, vile, narcissistic person. Plenty of people live with mental illness and manage to not spew hate speech. Maybe he's just a shit person

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TheShishkabob t1_iuc0blk wrote

Replying to sexybimbogf (#333,375)

It's possible, but he's been allegedly fawning over Hitler privately for 4+ years and yet the public antisemitism (to this degree) is new.

Mental illness doesn't need to be an excuse to factor into the conversation. Pretending it's impossible that it's a factor is as stupid as saying bipolar is the reason he's antisemitic.

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Paddlesons t1_iuc10at wrote

Well, I guess you can always be a bad example.

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Xaero_Hour t1_iuc3c5j wrote

Replying to RamenTheory (#334,146)

How does an untreated mental illness factor into erratic behavior? Really? That's a pretty straight line right there. But it's not the sole source of his crap or even what caused his current spree of bad decisions; that's the other stuff I listed, none of which, you'll notice help.

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Xaero_Hour t1_iuc3ukg wrote

Replying to 79r100 (#333,941)

I didn't forget shit. He had talent for making music. I'm not going to act like some wannabe-hate-hipster and ignore that he had a successful music career before things went off the rails. He was always an asshole, but that doesn't take away him having a talent.

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RamenTheory t1_iuc3zky wrote

Replying to Xaero_Hour (#334,767)

You're changing your statement a little bit. "Untreated mental illness" is much broader and more vague than pointing to BPD in particular, and likewise, "bad decisions" is also a pretty forgiving label to place on actively believing hateful things about a racial minority. What you specifically suggested was that BPD can contribute to someone holding racist beliefs, which, unless you have some kind of legitimate research on that, is a little bit of a stretch and potentially infantilizing to those who live with BPD. West is most certainly a mentally ill person divorced from reality, but suggesting that that's what BPD does to a person sounds... not true

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Therealladyboneyard t1_iuc46bx wrote

Replying to Xaero_Hour (#328,264)

I hate to say this, but I’m wondering if he’s going to blame his actions on his bipolar. Bipolar doesn’t make someone change their core belief system. If he’s not antisemitic, neither mania or depression cycle would change that. And the reverse is true as well. He either is suffering from another mental health issue, or he’s trying to use it as justification.

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throwreddit666 t1_iuc59te wrote

Replying to AlfieOwens (#330,933)

I come from a country which has problems with adulation for toxic celebrities (India), but the USA takes it to a new level with rationalising the bullshit celebrities do. This guy released a good album almost 2 decades ago. He's released some decent music since then as well. But somehow he is regarded as some great thinker when he's always been a shallow, angry little moron. But you will have so called liberals celebrating him because he's apparently a black man who made it big. Only goes to show how shallow those people are.

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Xaero_Hour t1_iucdsvr wrote

Replying to Therealladyboneyard (#334,908)

Wouldn't be the first time he's tried to buy back public favor by saying exactly that. I'd say it won't work again, but I have far too little faith in the public for that. Also, he's got a lot of people with money that are using him as a flashy idiot so we don't start asking, "hey, where DID he get that whole idea from? Doesn't it sound a lot like that one guy on TV? Why is he still on TV saying the same stuff that cost this guy his shoe deal if it's so bad?"

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Xaero_Hour t1_iuce6n9 wrote

Replying to n3ws4cc (#330,782)

That's pretty close to it. Conspiracy theorists strike at people when they're feeling frustrated, ignored, and confused and present them with something that answers all their questions about the lack of control they feel and promises them they can get it back. Then once they've convinced you that it all makes sense, BAM, here comes the antisemitism. The number of popular conspiracy theories that are based in antisemitism is frankly staggering.

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cone10 t1_iucj8lc wrote

Replying to Xaero_Hour (#328,264)

Maybe he was already terribly anti-semitic earlier, but couldn't say it out because of the consequences. Maybe now that the political climate supports saying horrible things out loud, he is in his element. Perhaps being bipolar helps remove some filters.

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i_should_be_coding t1_iucntfz wrote

I remember hearing people tell me "The Holocaust was the best thing that ever happened to Jews. Now they have their own country. That wouldn't have happened without it." This opinion is just as moronic.

Jews are just people. Some of us are nice, some of us are assholes, a lot of us are idiots. Please stop trying to invent reasons why the few millions of us on the planet are somehow a threat to you.

Also, please leave Kanye alone. The man is not well. Making a huge news item about everything he says is pretty grotesque, sort of like videotaping a person with broken legs trying to walk and then making news articles about that. Stop pretending like this is a normal person with important opinions.

As someone with my own mental issues, I can tell you that the only person who can truly help Kanye is Kanye, and he has to understand that things aren't all right. As long as the media keeps stroking his ego to see what comes out of his mouth next, that's just not going to happen.

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MassiveStallion t1_iuctdqd wrote

I think the fact is Ye has been antisemitic for years and the music industry has been hiding it or at least managing him to keep it quiet.

But then the right wingers came out and enabled him to say these opinions in the bright light of day and turned him into their puppet. So he's chosen to go the Trump route because he thinks he can be the next president

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dtseng123 t1_iuctqa7 wrote

He’s great at music and he’s absolutely batshit. The fact that the media is entertaining his ideas and publicizing them is only feeding his mental illness and going to ruin his life even further.

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Ok_Mycologist_5569 t1_iucuuf8 wrote

NYT: this is what a Semite looks like..

Interesting that he’s going down the toilet financially and still no conservatorship. Kim would be doing him a favour if she stepped in. I think she helped keep him balanced

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seeUinValencia t1_iucztfz wrote

Replying to throwreddit666 (#335,105)

Idk if you live in the USA, bc if you do, you’re being either blind or want to stir shit up. Trump loves himself some Kanye. As they say: conservative monkey see, conservative monkey do. Conservatives love Kanye

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throwreddit666 t1_iud08wd wrote

Replying to seeUinValencia (#340,350)

Conservatives have now started liking Kanye and that's because they like anyone who spews vile hateful shit. But up until now, he was also covered very sympathetically by liberal media. And a lot of people justified his bullshit. Always thought he's an overrated asshole. His above average music doesn't justify his obnoxious attitude.

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SonofBeckett t1_iud56fu wrote

And in other breezy news, Czar Nicholas I was awarded the Victoria Cross for his valorous actions during the Crimean War.

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Sir-Kevly t1_iudbd5x wrote

Replying to throwaway15642578 (#336,651)

It's like the mental illness argument with school shooters. Yeah, they're obviously mentally ill. But they're not doing it BECAUSE they're mentally ill, they're doing it because they didn't get the help they needed and their mental illness causes them to continue getting worse until they snap and act out on those feelings.

Mental illness isn't the direct cause of any of his behaviour, but it's definitely exacerbating his paranoid delusions and self-aggrandizing behaviour.

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pugs-and-kisses t1_iudcqkt wrote

I always find it weird how minorities especially can’t support other minorities.

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GreeneWithEnvy420 t1_iudf5fm wrote

Replying to Sir-Kevly (#343,074)

He has millions of dollars to be able to get himself help. He is a fucking clown and I have no sympathy for him. Hopefully he reaches the end here soon and we don't have to hear anything about him anymore once he is in the ground.

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Pezonito t1_iudiiwy wrote

Replying to TheStephenKingest (#332,840)

To be fair, Kanye's rants prompted me to see a doctor and get my ego checked. It turns out my ego was not super, but id was fine.

The doctor I went to was Oz though, so the scale might be a bit off.

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NotAReal_Person_ t1_iudl0y3 wrote

Replying to CthuluTheGrand (#324,823)

It’s not really new. According to Van Lathan, the TMZ guy that argued with kanya at TMZ, said that Kanye was also saying a bunch of antisemitic stuff the same day. Saying he loved Hitler and the nazis and TMZ decided to not air any of that stuff, just the “slavery is a choice” shit. Not sure why they wanted to protect him on that front, but it’s been happening for a while now

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grootdoos1 t1_iudpebd wrote

Replying to canhasdiy (#342,876)

So you may not know this but if someone tells you a racist joke that may be offensive, the best way to address the situation is it ask them to explain the joke thereby making them realize how racist the joke is. So kind of the same thing. If I need to explain who the "they" maybe you should keep scanning reddit.

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TFserver t1_iudq0fj wrote

The amount of hatred here, it is sad.

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H0vis t1_iudq4ev wrote

Bret Stephens has shit for brains and it boggles my mind that the NYT would hire him for anything more complicated than sweeping the floor.

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And I don't mean that as a sleight against the cleaning staff, who are almost certainly better informed and more rational than he is. I just mean that with some training and support, he could eventually do their job almost as well as they do.

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Fomentor t1_iudrg67 wrote

Using that logic we should be thankful for Hitler, who clearly did the most to raise awareness if antisemitism. Thank you, Hitler!

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canhasdiy t1_iudsxq3 wrote

Replying to grootdoos1 (#346,241)

So you're being racist?

So you may not know this but when someone makes a claim and someone else asks for proof or clarification, the onus of responsibility is generally considered to be on the person making the claim, as there's no reason to believe said claim without evidence, and saying stupid shit like "look it up yourself" just tells the world that you're talking out of your ass.

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seriousbangs t1_iue1mz9 wrote

This is how they smuggle antisemitism back into the mainstream discussion.

Thanks to Muskrat he's back on Twitter. Contact your favorite brands and tell them to pull their advert dollars.

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Mr_Abobo t1_iueb1mf wrote

Replying to CthuluTheGrand (#324,823)

I think people forget—he was in a very serious car crash that nearly killed him and likely gave him pretty severe brain damage. It’s probable he already had some diseases, but massive brain trauma changes a person for life, and we need to accept that these people will be touched.

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etorres4u t1_iuf2s4t wrote

Replying to canhasdiy (#342,931)

What makes you think many Democrats aren’t racist? You right wingers love to assume a lot of shit about democrats that is wrong and ignorant. There many racist fucks who happen to be democrats for other reasons. Did you even know there are democrats who are pro life conservatives? Senator Joe Manchin is an example. In fact before the civil rights democrats were considered the conservative southern party who supported racist dogma and Republicans were considered the “liberal” party.

The only difference here is that Republicans as a party support candidates who openly believe in white nationalism, christian theocracy and actively push policies that actively seek to disenfranchise and harm minorities.

As for Trump, there is a lot of DOCUMENTED evidence of the man’s racism that go back to the 70’s and 80’s. The real estate company he and his father owned back in the 70’s was found guilty of malicious racial discriminating against black people back in 1973. Add to that the many, many racist documented comments the man has made over the decades, including the ones made about the infamous “central park five” rape case in the mid 80’s.

The fact that so many right wingers assume so much based only on labels instead of their actions is downright ignorant.

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