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OutrageousGarbage743 t1_ivw97og wrote
We miss you Cuomo! #2026
A_Typicalperson t1_ivw9zvz wrote
So is crime not an Issue in NYC? Lol I guess Chicago are crime deniers also?
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Guypussy t1_ivweojd wrote
I think if he primaried Hochul he’d have a sporting chance to win the nom.
But he’s a podcaster now, soooo…
codernyc t1_ivwf3bg wrote
Honestly I’d rather have Cuomo than Hochul the yokel.
Responsible-Try-5228 t1_ivwigxc wrote
Lol Cuomo appointed the judge that threw out NY’s congressional maps, lost the house for the Dems, and has the audacity to say literally anything. Fucking bozo.
137thaccount t1_ivwjlyo wrote
Crime is an issue everywhere but compared to the majority of other cities (red towns in particular) you could safely say crime is not as big of an issue as it is in other towns.
TheStrachs t1_ivwlx31 wrote
Ciao, Bella!
Turbulent_Ad1667 t1_ivwm4e4 wrote
He and Deblasio should take a nice overseas vacation together
aaronabsent t1_ivwmi3p wrote
He would have lost.
sayheykid24 t1_ivwnl8w wrote
I mean, independent of that he’s not wrong.
RecommendationOld525 t1_ivwq6nx wrote
I eagerly voted against Cuomo in every primary election he was in, and I’d be more than happy to do so again. 🥰
FleetwoodMacNCheese t1_ivwre1w wrote
i mean, has he been to long island, or sheepshead bay, or staten island, or maspeth, or upstate?
so much of new york is filled with ignorant and racist pieces of shit.
sad yes but not really all that surprising to me.
Enjolras55 t1_ivwtw63 wrote
Yup, had New York still had the redrawn maps, Democrats would be guaranteed to keep the House because it would have led to 7 more Democratic seats.
Cuomo destroyed Democrats' chances of winning the House.
NewYorker0 t1_ivwtzva wrote
Cuomo’s judges threw away redistricting and his own Lt gov: Kathy Hochul screwed up terribly. Lol.
sysyphusishappy t1_ivwuc7g wrote
Whoa scary! Operating as a one party city in a one party state has worked out so well for us over the last few years. Thank god nothing is changing! We really dodged a bullet and this city's future looks bright!
IRequirePants t1_ivwuirc wrote
>Lol Cuomo appointed the judge that threw out NY’s congressional maps, lost the house for the Dems, and has the audacity to say literally anything.
If the Democrats were less greedy, they could have snagged an extra seat or two. Instead, you are left trying to defend a map that was gerrymandered to shit and that blatantly violated the NYS constitutional amendment.
Just absurd. No one is forcing you to defend that piece of shit map. For fuck's sake, Nadler's seat had a thin line snaking through Brooklyn. Suozzi's seat was Long Island and a chunk of Westchester. They split up Asian neighborhoods in Queens.
froggythefish t1_ivwux13 wrote
Cuomo being based as always <3
TuTranquilo t1_ivwv253 wrote
And who cares about this weirdos opinion
iamlejo t1_ivwzcsp wrote
oreosfly t1_ivx0kus wrote
Oh please. The four seats they lost were theirs to lose. These were suburban NYC seats, not seats smack in the middle of Stefanik country. Three were rated by FiveThirtyEight as Democratic leaning and the fourth was a tossup. Zeldin dragged down ballot GOP candidates across the finish line by running up the numbers outside of the five boroughs. Hochul was a weak candidate atop the ticket and it showed with weak performances down the ballot.
Grass8989 t1_ivx1vdq wrote
The city’s with the high rates of crime in those “red states” are all run by democrats though.
TetraCubane t1_ivx2wqp wrote
Hochul got very lucky.
Her new gun laws are about to be thrown out by the courts. She would be wise to simply abide by the NYSRPA V Bruen ruling and make New York a true "shall issue" state without the ridiculous sensitive locations and restricted locations list.
IllegibleLedger t1_ivxb4ao wrote
You do get that her running is also on Cuomo right?
IllegibleLedger t1_ivxb9br wrote
Almost all large cities in the US are Democrat run and the ones that aren't are not doing well at all. Funny how the ones in red states do far worse huh?
m1kasa4ckerman t1_ivxezkj wrote
Yeah he’s part of the problem
ChrisFromLongIsland t1_ivxgtkw wrote
It sucks that in the South the republican maps were deemed illegal by the district courts and the states ignored the court rulings and used them anyway. To make matters more corrupt it was appealed to the Supreme Court and they just used a technically and sat on their hands. NYs court rightfully did the right thing and threw out the partisan maps. Though the right thing is hard to swallow when one side cheats and it's blessed by the corrupt partisan highest court in the land while the other side follows the rule of law. The fix was in before the first vote was cast.
ChrisFromLongIsland t1_ivxh2b2 wrote
Both are right Hochul ran a terrible campaign and the fix was in where the red states gerrymandered illegally and used the maps anyway with zero consequences and NY in the end did not use the illegally drawn partisan maps.
The argument being if one side cheats why can't I?
KaiDaiz t1_ivxh2o0 wrote
>would have led to 7 more Democratic seats.
Delusional. Dems would have still lost the seats in their version of the map based on the performance of election.
This was the proposed map dems wanted -https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/new-york/democratic_proposal/
We couldn't hold onto D4 with a 10+D lean in final map and you think we can take SI even with a 7+D lean in proposed? Nonsense. Would argue we would of lost all the germander created districts upstate anyway
Fact is even the final version of the map was still favorable to Dems and they still blew it and more. We lost the House bc of NY and it wasn't redistricting fault.
yankuniz t1_ivxknm1 wrote
Crime is worse in Florida than in New York, but it wasn’t an issue for the governor race there. The nyPost has played out electorate like a fiddle.
yankuniz t1_ivxkwzj wrote
The D party in New York is not a monolith and has at least 2 parties within jt
yankuniz t1_ivxlh1m wrote
It’s amazing that he can recognize the governors race effected down ballot votes without realizing a major reason for that is that the democratic governor was impeached for sexual abuse after a disturbing pandemic performance. Andrew Cuomo is a bad person and does not have a clear or unbiased perspective to be commenting on this election. In a just world he would giving this interview from a pay phone in jail
Head_Acanthisitta256 t1_ivxlq82 wrote
Cuomo was a terrible governor for the state. And I’m very happy Zeldin wasn’t given the opportunity to make things worse, but having the result of Cuomo’s corrupt governorship being an impartial gerrymander is a good thing.
ZincMan t1_ivxmkme wrote
It really really sucks, Some bull shit shifts the course of the nation. It sucks doing the right thing sometimes
Lyin-Don t1_ivxmnpe wrote
People in here complaining that he appointed a judge who didn’t let Democrats get away with bullshit gerrymandering lmao.
“Shut up, Cuomo! Your judge didn’t let us fuck over our constituents like more corrupt judges in other states. He should have appointed a biased and partisan stooge!”
I voted straight blue - pretty much always have - but the inability to see what a ridiculous argument you guys are making is comical.
He sucks but he isn’t wrong.
PatrickMaloney1 t1_ivxoyvg wrote
Cuomo is right about this in the way former mobsters are able to provide testimony on the inner workings of other organized crime groups. He’s a part of the problem so he can recognize the problem. Let’s not applaud this predator for spelling out the obvious
daisypusherrests t1_ivxpf2g wrote
Came here to say this.
pepperpavlov t1_ivxru9d wrote
The term “wake up call” is specifically called out in Veep season 2 episode 1 (“Midterms”) as a midterm cliche. I’m not too worried about it.
ofd227 t1_ivxurgm wrote
Cuomo wasn't impeached. The state assembly allowed him to resign with no reproductions. He kept his pension and all his campaign money
anothercryptokitty t1_ivxvt47 wrote
reproductions ;-)
akmalhot t1_ivxvxy8 wrote
It's amazing how for gerrymandering you guys are when it would favor you.
Note I'm not registered to vote in NY
hau5keeping t1_ivxwioo wrote
NY should have gerrymandered for Dems because republican states are doing the same. The solution to fix gerrymandering is only at the Federal level, but guess what? Republicans in Congress don’t support ending gerrymandering. So yes, NY should gerrymander for Democrats.
hau5keeping t1_ivxwqg1 wrote
NY should have gerrymandered for Dems because republican states are doing the same. The solution to fix gerrymandering is only at the Federal level, but guess what? Republicans in Congress don’t support ending gerrymandering. So yes, NY should gerrymander for Democrats.
NoButterfly9803 t1_ivxx495 wrote
Not even in office and he still sucks.
akmalhot t1_ivxxjco wrote
The other big post is about bidens student loan forgiveness, the top comment is the prosecutor took PPP loans.
Except PPP was passed by Congress and student loan forgiveness by executive power
In the end.. everyone is just the same, willing to lie cheat and bend the truth If it serves their cause.. but loud and aggressive if it works against their cause
occasional_cynic t1_ivxym2b wrote
Still had them? Is Reddit celebrating gerrymandering now because their side doing is fine?
PvtHudson t1_ivxyqqh wrote
Judging by the sex abuse scandals, sounds like he had plenty of reproductions.
GroundbreakingCook68 t1_ivxz70x wrote
Cuomo is right . Critical thinkers in America should unite against the two major parties and form an anti extremist party ..
hau5keeping t1_ivxza6n wrote
Dems did try to end the cheating at the Federal level (H.R. 1) but Congressional Republicans didn’t support it. Theres only one side to blame here, and i say that as someone who hates the dems
Delaywaves t1_ivxzem7 wrote
> Nadler's seat had a thin line snaking through Brooklyn
His district looked like that even before the recent redistricting. That wasn't even a partisan gerrymander, it was a way of linking Jewish communities on the UWS and Brooklyn.
The Dems' map was plenty greedy, but so were dozens of other maps across the country that the Republicans drew for themselves. Nearly all of those were allowed to stand, yet Cuomo's judges struck down the New York one — it's the asymmetry that's deeply unfair.
TarumK t1_ivy0cyp wrote
Why? There have always been Republican in NY state. It's a huge state with a lot of rural areas, there are wealthy conservative suburbs, and then a certain fraction of NYC is always Republican. It's always existed and there have been Republican governors and even mayors before.
Enjolras55 t1_ivy25eu wrote
If Republicans are allowed to keep gerrymandering, it's stupid for Dems to not use it. That's not a fair election system.
Gozillasbday t1_ivy2hat wrote
Anyone that feels the need to say something like "I voted straight blue" always seems suspect to me.
Caribbean_Ed718 t1_ivy2jf9 wrote
Why is he bad?
Farrell-Mars t1_ivy2m1n wrote
Would he have done better?
Gozillasbday t1_ivy2onu wrote
Who on the left is extremist candidate wise? Hochul definitely isn't.
KaiDaiz t1_ivy4i1q wrote
He actually would have. based on his prior performance, he would have sway all the conservative Italian votes at least which turn against Dems this election.
ineedafakename t1_ivy4ou8 wrote
So you are of the opinion that democracy should be ended because the other side is trying to end it?
hortence1234 t1_ivy6xeh wrote
Cuomo killed the elderly and infirmed during covid.
Farrell-Mars t1_ivy7ocw wrote
I can’t argue with that.
occasional_cynic t1_ivy954f wrote
They have been doing it for generations. Have you not seen AOC's district?
Weaponized_Puddle t1_ivy9hpv wrote
Did you see the maps?? -.-
What does Tottenville and Park Slope have in common?
ejpusa t1_ivy9kiv wrote
Covid mandates. 99%. They made people mad. She never lost a day of pay.
HARDCORE Democrat friends, for life, were stunned with her power trip. Over 900,000 jobs lost in NYC, no one cared. No one. Once you have power, you just can’t give it up. Republican or Democrat.
We think that Zeldin is a wacko, but our non-elected Governor (we tried to talk to her one on one about technology startups in NYC, she was so clueless, could not believe it, stunned by her lack of interest), cannot have that much control over 30,000,000 people, that’s insanity.
It was the restrictions. Think her advisers came in and told her: you have to cool it, or you will lose the election.
One more round of mandates, it would have been over for her. Have no doubt about that.
TheNormalAlternative t1_ivy9wgm wrote
Excuse me, he has (edit: at least) three kids
TheNormalAlternative t1_ivya06g wrote
or underseas
[deleted] t1_ivya36a wrote
Yeah except how many red states are gerrimandered to hell because republicans control their legislatures? They didn’t just overturn the map they also didn’t return it to the legislature to create a new one that didn’t favor republicans. I guess dems should sit on their hands when they hold power and let all the red states rig the game in republicans favor.
Gozillasbday t1_ivya792 wrote
Your comment history is all over New Hampshire, why are you even here?
[deleted] t1_ivya98c wrote
We hold power in the legislature. The game is already super rigged in republicans favor because of their own gerrimanders but yeah let’s just let cuomo et al rewrite the rules to favor republicans seems fair.
Gozillasbday t1_ivyam8n wrote
Nah, he made the wrong move when we didn't have all the information. It was not done out of malice or negligence too little was known at the time.
However the part where he tried to cover it up and lie about it is unforgivable. That part he deserves all the blame for.
CoxHazardsModel t1_ivybbtz wrote
Why not do it if the other side won’t stop? Just put in trigger laws that end gerrymandering if most states also pass it.
ejpusa t1_ivybdl3 wrote
Covid mandates. 99%. They made people mad. She never lost a day of pay.
HARDCORE Democrat friends, for life, were stunned with her power trip. Over 900,000 jobs lost in NYC, no one cared. No one. Once you have power, you just can’t give it up. Republican or Democrat.
We think that Zeldin is a wacko, but our non-elected Governor (we tried to talk to her one on one about technology startups in NYC, she was so clueless, could not believe it, stunned by her lack of interest), cannot have that much control over 30,000,000 people, that’s insanity.
It was the restrictions. Think her advisers came in and told her: you have to cool it, or you will lose the election.
One more round of mandates, it would have been over for her. Lost the votes for sure. Have no doubt about that.
CoverBoring2374 t1_ivycbbq wrote
You know you suck if both democrats AND CONSERVATIVES dislike you. I can't tell you how many conservatives dislike this man. In addition, to those who are conservative.
oreosfly t1_ivyeh8v wrote
Cuomo is the reason why she is governor but not the reason why she had to run such a weak campaign
IRequirePants t1_ivyf2fm wrote
It does suck. I don't have more to add, your comment covers it.
parkslopeymcamanager t1_ivyf2se wrote
And so many on this sub praised him with his daily masturbation session press conferences
IRequirePants t1_ivyfsbd wrote
>His district looked like that even before the recent redistricting
He had a part of Brooklyn but thie change was really bad. Compare the two.
>it was a way of linking Jewish communities on the UWS and Brooklyn.
Two different Jewish communities.
IRequirePants t1_ivyfy8v wrote
>I guess dems should sit on their hands
Maryland, Illinois, Nevada.
In NY, they probably could have gotten away with a less aggressive one.
Edit: Someone asked if they actually would have gotten away with a less aggressive gerrymander.
This is a good question. It's my opinion, obviously, but let me explain my thinking.
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Democrats blatantly failed to follow IRC procedures. That counted against them in the final decision. Specifically, there are guidelines on what to do if there is an impasse in the IRC, including deadlines etc. Democrats just jumped straight into forcing a new map through the legislature.
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The original court decision basically told them this and said "fix this map by this date, and do it properly" and the Democrats just... ignored the court. The theory is that they thought they could run out the clock and the court would be forced to let them use the map they picked (this happened in Ohio for Republicans, but they didn't blatantly ignore the court). Ignoring the judiciary is also a point against you.
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One judge only dissented in part. He basically outlines what Democrats should have done, which is pass their original IRC map. I want to highlight this because the map Democrats presented to the IRC is not what the legislature passed. The judge points out that there were big commonalities between the Republican IRC map and the Democratic one, especially regarding upstate. Some of the blatant gerrymandering was packing upstate votes.
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Less specific, but I think if they passed the original IRC map, Republicans would have a more difficult time showing a gerrymander. According to 538, the result is +1 Democratic seats, -2 Republican seats, and while there are some gerrymanders, it is less obvious. In contrast, the Democratic gerrymander is +2 Democratic seats, -3 Republican seats.
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occasional_cynic t1_ivyga3h wrote
Grew up in Middletown and lived in Brooklyn for a bit after college. Currently reside in NH. Is there a residency requirement where redditors do not have to resort to deflection to avoid admitting things are not black and white?
HayPlaceAPlaceforHay t1_ivygrdx wrote
I remember him. He killed tons of old people and MeToo’ed young women. Here’s a guy that should know a thing or two about wake up calls.
HayPlaceAPlaceforHay t1_ivygz7v wrote
If he hadn’t been ousted over sexual harassment claims it would have been even closer,
HayPlaceAPlaceforHay t1_ivyh2om wrote
He killed a lot of grandparents and caused the great migration out of the state. Also, sex predator.
JubeltheBear t1_ivyh6g4 wrote
I think he's saying there's no sense in losing with honor... especially with what's at stake
[deleted] t1_ivyhi0j wrote
Yeah I’ll see you those states and raise you Wisconsin and Texas. What’s your point? The republicans are the party of literal voter suppression and not sure how handing over drawing a map to a bunch of conservatives in NYS is “fair” but go off. All the dems need to “learn lessons” now right? But republicans don’t I guess.
IRequirePants t1_ivyi3ls wrote
My point is that they didn't sit on their hands.
>The republicans are the party of literal voter suppression
Turnout in NY was garbage and turnout in Georgia skyrocketed.
>handing over drawing a map to a bunch of conservatives in NYS is “fair” but go off.
Stop breaking the law.
[deleted] t1_ivyi5xr wrote
So honestly we should sit on our hands in one of the states where we have a super majority in our legislature and “do the right thing” which btw wasnt even done here with the redrawing, because that’s “right?” While we get our asses whipped by republican controlled state legislatures gerrimandering their districts to hell and passing laws to restrict voting by people who don’t vote for them. Sure yes seems reasonable.
[deleted] t1_ivyif9p wrote
Haha you’re honestly too dumb to argue with. Now you’re going to argue republicans don’t suppress votes? Okay clown. Republicans just elected over 100 candidates who wanted to overturn the election but something about Georgia proves something in your mind.
[deleted] t1_ivyijyy wrote
I love how you people are the first to blame dems for losing but let’s just gloss over the ways the republicans try to suppress democracy and rig the game. You’re not biased at all!!!
sutisuc t1_ivyirr6 wrote
Famously governors of states do not have more power than city mayors
KaiDaiz t1_ivyitf9 wrote
If it was linking Jewish communities why tf it included chinatown? Many asians like me saw it and realize it was a attempt to crack and pack the asian votes. Hence why that proposed district did not fly with us. Last I check racial gerrymandering is illegal
smallint t1_ivyixr2 wrote
Louder. He can’t hear you!
SiriPsycho100 t1_ivylval wrote
This. You can't unilaterally disarm in this gerrymandering arms race. Unfortunately all that can be done is to push it to the point where both sides realize how ridiculous the system is and reform it or more likely until Dems can reform it at the national level to ban gerrymandering. But to voluntarily not gerrymander while the other side does it is political suicide.
NetQuarterLatte t1_ivymb0k wrote
>The solution to fix gerrymandering is only at the Federal level, but guess what?
Then fix at the federal level, but don't use gerrymandering to get there, otherwise the incentive to fix will disappear.
We shouldn't be resorting to totalitarian shit in NY.
NetQuarterLatte t1_ivymkot wrote
Some people think that fighting fascism requires employing totalitarianism.
Gozillasbday t1_ivymtzk wrote
You lived in Nyc for a little after college and left now you're saying nonsense in the sub.
yankuniz t1_ivynepa wrote
It’s not that he “killed grandparents” He lied and falsified numbers to hide the level of death and suffering caused by his directives. Nobody expects a governor to always make a correct choice when it’s not clear what the right choices are. But we do expect some level of honesty about the situation.
yankuniz t1_ivynpmj wrote
His ego and narcissism led to constant struggle for nyc and its leaders to accomplish anything.
HayPlaceAPlaceforHay t1_ivyogsa wrote
You spelled “he killed grandparents,” wrong.
ineedafakename t1_ivyp0f5 wrote
- The legislature passed the law that judge was ruling over
- This is the same argument that all the democrats running for president in 2020 used (Trump is abusing executive power, which is terrible, so here is our plan to abuse it if we win) and the Republicans used against Obama in 2016 Here might be a novel idea, let us vote for people that want to reduce power in the hands of the few and spread it among the people
brihamedit t1_ivyp1f8 wrote
I want to see cuomo back in ny political ecosys - if he commits to center left policies and enhancing ny's services etc. Guy knows the corrupt eco system and capable of handling it.
Lyin-Don t1_ivyp6xm wrote
Because two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s really that simple.
Plus - as shitty as gerrymandering is - that isn’t the (primary) issue with our elections.
It’s turnout.
There are enough Dems in every district to overcome the Republican douchebaggery, but people can’t be bothered to get out and vote.
It’s one fucking day out of 730. There’s no excuses for turnout being as low as it is.
That goes for Republicans, independents, libertarians, etc. In every state.
That’s not to say gerrymandering isn’t ridiculous. Of course it is. But we have the numbers to overcome it. People just can’t be bothered to do their civic duty
hau5keeping t1_ivyphi7 wrote
My brother in christ read the next sentence. Republicans are blocking it at the Federal level
NetQuarterLatte t1_ivyq71n wrote
>My brother in christ read the next sentence. Republicans are blocking it at the Federal level
And that gives us a license to suppress the will of NY voters?
yukpurtsun t1_ivyro49 wrote
hochul sucks. cuomo sucks. If republicans can get their thumbs out their asses and put up a normal/moderate candidate unlike Sliwa or Zeldin they'd probably win.
NewYorker0 t1_ivysezc wrote
Gerrymandering is legal and if the opposition is doing it then you would be a moron to not do it. Piss off with your moral superiority.
FrenchToastForDinner t1_ivytkfy wrote
They all hate him, right?
[deleted] t1_ivytn1z wrote
Yes and the judges took it upon themselves to refuse to allow the legislature to rewrite the map and hand it to someone of their choosing to rewrite something even the lower court judge didn’t recommend. What the hell is your point.
It’s cute you think any democratic president has even come close to the abuse of power involved in literally overturning the votes of over 20 million people which is what trump and most republicans in congress voted for and tried to do. Give me a break. There is no “both sides” to what the republicans tried to do. Go lecture the republicans why don’t you since they are the ones who want to overturn the elections they don’t win.
FrenchToastForDinner t1_ivytnwt wrote
Also petty job-threatener. See: Ron Kim
oreosfly t1_ivyuhk3 wrote
Repercussions*
r/boneappletea moment
akmalhot t1_ivyv1qx wrote
You can't complain and bitch one someone does it, then complain and bitch about trying to do it yourself
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its comical
mission17 t1_ivyvic5 wrote
> Some people think that fighting fascism requires employing fascism.
You’ve been called out for this before. Fascism is a far right, ultranationalist ideology. Not a leftist ideology. Nor a center right ideology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Fascism is not employing political tactics like this. And antifascism is not fascism. You’re trivializing the reality of far right rule when you spew bullshit like this.
ineedafakename t1_ivyvmpb wrote
January 6th was disgusting and I am not defending it, the abuses of executive privilege that was brought up during the democratic primaries predates that, and that is what I was discussing
If you want me to both sides it, there are always members of congress that refuse to certify the election every time, and they all should be thrown out
NetQuarterLatte t1_ivyvtx2 wrote
Sure, I edited my comments for correctness.
The fact that you care about the precise wording makes it sounds like you dislike fascism, but you have no problem with totalitarianism.
mission17 t1_ivyw8nl wrote
The fact I care about precise wording is because you incessantly spread misinformation and far right bullshit on this subreddit, including trying to “both sides” fascism— a clearly far-right ideology.
NetQuarterLatte t1_ivywqzs wrote
It still sounds like you have no problem with totalitarianism.
PostureGai t1_ivywxyk wrote
It wasn't within 5 cragface!
lawanddisorder t1_ivyyeit wrote
This is correct. Hochul lost Nassau County by 9 points. Cuomo won Nassau County by 15 points in 2018. A 24-point swing in four years is malpractice.
A -9 point number is a huge number to make up if you're down ballot and it's no surprise that the Democratic House and State Senate nominees (except for the one in the majority-minority district) went down in flames.
_Maxolotl t1_ivyzccw wrote
A five point margin of victory for a blue state governor is better than a 20 point margin of victory.
Cuomo was too centrist. If we want to make progress, the ideal margin of victory is between about 5 and 10. Any better and we've got someone who too many Republicans like. We've got a solid legislative majority. The ideal situation is a governor and a statehouse willing to consistently crush Republicans, hopefully enough so that people who live in red districts consider voting blue in order to win favor and investment from the state.
_Maxolotl t1_ivyzfmi wrote
And so does The Boyfriend.
NewYorker0 t1_ivyzwgl wrote
I’m being pragmatic. Where do you see me complaining? I’m not. All I’m saying is we should play fire with fire
_Maxolotl t1_ivz00gt wrote
If the democrats were less naïve, they never would have done redistricting reform in the first place and they would have been able to redistrict Maliotakis out of a career and gerrymander upstate and the hudson valley into permanently safe blue districts.
States with permanent democratic legislative majorities should play as dirty as red states do until congress agrees to nationwide anti-gerrymandering laws or an amendment.
What NY and CA did with non-biased redistricting commissions was unilateral disarmament. So now, on a nationwide scale, the Dems are taking high-minded rhetoric to a knife fight.
akmalhot t1_ivz0dky wrote
not you specifically, everyone in this sub. you chose to reply
ofd227 t1_ivz0exk wrote
I stand by my typo
oreosfly t1_ivz3l9e wrote
I respect that
jerseycityfrankie t1_ivz43wk wrote
Lol Sliwa! I had forgotten. Good lord.
jerseycityfrankie t1_ivz4ckb wrote
He’s actually on Reddit. He’s twocatsoneman.
jerseycityfrankie t1_ivz4t60 wrote
Lol they’d just become the most ironic extremists ever.
IRequirePants t1_ivz53pm wrote
>If the democrats were less naïve, they never would have done redistricting reform in the first place
It was a ballot initiative. Some Democrats and some Republicans pushed for it. Democrats tried to amend it to be more favorable to them but that failed.
They had no real choice. They probably could have gotten away with a slightly more favorable map. But they went so insanely blatant. One party states have issues where they think they can brute force their way through political issues. See Kansas and Kentucky on abortion.
KingoKings365 t1_ivz5kqp wrote
I hate Cuomo more than I do Hochul, yes. I’m a hot-take machine yes. But can we all agree that this man belongs in a prison?
NewYorker0 t1_ivz6brh wrote
Well you replied to me I assumed
hau5keeping t1_ivz6l4u wrote
Its not “us”, its congressional republicans who are forcing that scenario.
NewYorker0 t1_ivz6wro wrote
It legal and No one’s stopping us
NetQuarterLatte t1_ivz70n7 wrote
Forcing how?
No one is forcing NY politicians to not govern in the interest of the people in those districts, and lose votes as a result.
The only thing which forcing it here is the stubborn ideology that ignores the people.
Deep-Classroom-879 t1_ivz7qo5 wrote
Andrew who?
hau5keeping t1_ivz96ql wrote
It's a zero-sum game. Players must always maximize their position. This is not The West Wing where everyone suddenly has a change of heart for the good of the nation. You're taking issue with the wrong people. Congressional Republicans are the root of the problem.
SeaworthinessOne2114 t1_ivzal60 wrote
Thank God I'm retiring soon and can flee the state if a republican takes the governor's office. That would turn NY into a banana republic like Florida and Texas.
SeaworthinessOne2114 t1_ivzb1of wrote
Cuomo knows what he's talking about and the whole sex scandal thing was and remains bullshit. It was a way to get him out of office to make room for someone else. I'd vote for him again. The Cuomo things indicates to me that all a person has to do is accuse someone and voila, they're guilty especially if it's a woman making the accusations. So it's just like the dems to take the fighters down for bullshit it's a sexist and ageist.
huebomont t1_ivzdv6e wrote
that ship has long sailed
Saladcitypig t1_ivzff5p wrote
Cuomo can STFU and do some more thinking by his pool.
Multi_21_Seb_RBR t1_ivzhtus wrote
Agreed. Unilateral disarmament is a loser strategy and those who support unilateral disarmament in the vein of "let's be fair instead, we can't change those who cheat" is pie-in-the-sky thinking that serves no benefit to actually winning.
Democrats in NY and CA need to shape up when it comes to this.
huff_and_russ t1_ivzpchm wrote
I wasn’t expecting a reasonable voice in this comment section. Thanks.
huff_and_russ t1_ivzplby wrote
This bullshit will come up for another few decades, won’t it?
fall3nmartyr t1_ivzx9pz wrote
Yeah you and your cronies are idiots, cuomo.
ike1 t1_iw02qle wrote
Ah, Quomo-Anon strikes again!
Right, sure, it was all a conspiracy to get him out for... reasons. All the women who accused him were working for... Trump? Guiliani?
Except that they're all Democrats (except maybe the state trooper that he groped).
DawgsWorld t1_iw06dqt wrote
He should know about wake-up calls.
Lyin-Don t1_iw07gb5 wrote
So check my history.
Better yet - check my username.
I do it because of people like you who would immediately label me a far-right insurrectionist for simply leaving a reasonable and non-partisan comment like the one above.
Yevon t1_iw0ak00 wrote
> In NY, they probably could have gotten away with a less aggressive one.
Is this true or just feels? A conservative court can strike down anything it wants, as we've seen with the SCOTUS, on a whim so why would they allow a slightly-leaning (D) map when they could also strike it down?
Gozillasbday t1_iw0c19p wrote
The lady doth protest too much.
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ichiban_mafukaro t1_iw0idcv wrote
In his infinite wisdom, being a shining star of public welfare, he encouraged the elderly, the most vulnerable to illnesses of all kinds, be placed back into close quarters with one another in the middle of a quickly expanding pandemic, and at the same time mandated people to wear masks outside.
But you’re right, in this instance he just made an oopsie.
RandomRedditor44 t1_iw0x417 wrote
Lmao you appointed republicans judged to the courts. Sit down Cuomo.
hortence1234 t1_iw0xlba wrote
Not bullshit when it's true
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Fondren_Richmond t1_ixwk4fw wrote
> He killed a lot of grandparents
jesus christ, no
Fondren_Richmond t1_ixwkwtv wrote
> Cuomo knows what he's talking about and the whole sex scandal thing was and remains bullshit.
It wasn't bullshit in terms of signaling to government chief exectives what kind of unacceptable behavior they can be held accountable for. Trying it criminally or civilly would have been bullshit which is probably why the AG wisely stepped in to preempt that with an official investigation while the local DA said there wouldn't be any prosecution.
NetQuarterLatte t1_ivw6vuw wrote
> Cuomo said the GOP gains shows that Democrats can’t be “crime deniers,”
The only crimes that were acknowledged were the ones in republican states.
If crimes in republican areas are so much worse and given that progressives really care about that, why don’t progressives go there and win a lot of seats from the republicans, instead of hiding in safe districts here?
And maybe solve their crime issue too to show them how it should be done.