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Original-Quarter1833 t1_j6fhprl wrote

Unpopular opinion; ZZQ is overpriced and really not that great. They’re good, don’t get me wrong, but they’re not great.

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Silent-Net-7290 t1_j6fmw41 wrote

I only get the brisket at ZZQ, which I think is excellent. Their other stuff is ok. Their prices are stupid high.

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cookiekid6 t1_j6fntnb wrote

Replying to IMicrowaveSteak (#1,595,651)

I’ve been meaning to go to this place called redemption barbecue. It looks really good. They source local high quality pork from olive farms and some place in North Carolina for their grass fed brisket. Again I haven’t gone but it looks really good.

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memorex00 t1_j6foxpa wrote

Oh, brother. Here we go again.

BBQ has numerous regional variations and it’s not possible to compare ZZQ with a generic BBQ spot. They specialize in Texas style. They should be compared against different joints who does Texas style.

As for prices, it’s expensive because ZZQ is on East Coast. They use USDA prime briskets and it’s lotta easier if someone is near or in Texas where there is a steady supply of beef.

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bmg1090 t1_j6fpjcw wrote

Bbq exchange in Gordonsville

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elgro t1_j6frqz6 wrote

Check out redemption bbq. Their brisket isn’t going to match up to ZZQs but their other offerings are very good

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scoobiemario t1_j6frts2 wrote

Also. Dixie Bones in Woodbridge was good. But haven’t been there in Years

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epluribusanus4 t1_j6fu25r wrote

The Feed Store. Out past Oilville on 250. Get the 1/2 chicken with Alabama white sauce. You will not be disappointed.

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seize-theday t1_j6futym wrote

Carter’s Pig Pen in Mechanicsville has great Virginia- and Carolina-style BBQ

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GmanX64 t1_j6fyvwe wrote

I know people that swear by Q daddy’s in Smithfield. But can’t verify personally.

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bruxalle t1_j6g1vm0 wrote

Hill country in dc is pretty on par with zzq I’d say. Not sure it’s worth the money though.

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tipadisdick2016 t1_j6g2tml wrote

If we’re counting Maryland? 2Fifty in Hyattsville is the best

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squeeepp t1_j6g4x6k wrote

Went to Ronnie’s for the the first time Saturday. Got the sampler box. I like the ribs probably the best.

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Thirtytw031 t1_j6g5w15 wrote

Replying to memorex00 (#1,596,240)

Good BBQ is super expensive everywhere and I don’t think ZZQ is anymore expensive than any other legit bbq spot. If they use quality meat and smoke for appropriate amount of time, it’s a ton of cost to cover.

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SecureCap6661 t1_j6g6yqq wrote

I honestly like Deep Run Roadhouse better. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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ZombieForward5784 t1_j6ga4hi wrote

The truth is…. ZZQ has the best brisket on the east coast. However… their other offerings have competition. The pulled pork could be better.

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Professional-Win2171 t1_j6gakcj wrote

If you’re counting MD, Andy Nelson’s has the best collards I’ve ever tried

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kwoodall t1_j6gj1px wrote

So many many better BBQ in and around Richmond. Deeprun Roadhouse is my fav, but Buz and Ned's rules too.

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Diet_Coke t1_j6gnqgz wrote

You have to go to Texas for better

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I_AM_RVA t1_j6gwg0j wrote

Replying to memorex00 (#1,601,556)

Yes everyone knows where cattle are raised. It’s not all consumed in those four states. We have a man amazing and dynamic system of delivering food all over the country. It’s great. If you get a chance, check out a “supermarket.” Trust me you’re going to love it!

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AquaRaven t1_j6gyjfi wrote

If you are willing to go south, Bubba N Frank's in Hampton, Country Grill & Smokehouse in Yorktown, and Smoke in Newport News are all pretty good.

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GiantTacoSalad t1_j6hqi6l wrote

Andy Nelson's in Cockeysville MD has the best BBQ North of the Carolinas. Their brisket, pulled pork and even their pulled and smoked turkey are absolutely incredible.

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memorex00 t1_j6htsl0 wrote

Replying to I_AM_RVA (#1,605,116)

I think the point keeps being missed. I’ll do an analogy here. Brisket is akin to gas. The price varies from a location to a location due to logistics/transportation costs. Anyone can get a select or a choice brisket but high quality such as a prime from a reputable source (typically in these four states) will have to pay extra costs. Any Texas style BBQ joint worth their weight won’t be skimping on that particular area.

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Ditovontease t1_j6hy0nl wrote

Liberty bbq in Falls Church

They have char siu which, YES (including the normal tx/Carolina style)

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tasgetius22 t1_j6hy2iy wrote

it’s more towards williamsburg, but i used to love going to pierces bbq off of 64. apparently they specialize in tennessee bbq, news to me! but i remember the pulled pork always being pretty decent

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I_AM_RVA t1_j6i6mw3 wrote

Replying to khuldrim (#1,612,193)

Oh cool it’s Econ 101 time. There’s a steady supply of beef everywhere in the Us. Saying otherwise is idiotic. Is it cheaper some places? Sure! Is there a steady supply? Yes.

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khuldrim t1_j6i9a6b wrote

Replying to I_AM_RVA (#1,614,378)

Here’s a little Econ for you. A good or item is cheaper when you don’t have to pay the costs of overhead for transnational shipping and storage. When it can roll right from the abattoir to wholesale packing to the small bulk buyers like Texas BBQ purveyors, yes, it definitely is cheaper. Know how I can tell you’ve never been to Texas?

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MrPlowThatsTheName t1_j6iq0ki wrote

Rocklands in Arlington is pretty good. It won’t knock your socks off but it’s consistently good.

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I_AM_RVA t1_j6ixlrr wrote

Replying to khuldrim (#1,614,933)

I grew up in Texas but whatever bud.

Edit: also why are you going on about it being cheaper? Who said it wasn’t cheaper? There is a steady supply of beef on the east coast. That’s all. Why are you so defensive about a place you don’t even live and that isn’t even the point? It’s weird.

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memorex00 t1_j6jmavf wrote

Replying to I_AM_RVA (#1,620,364)

I might have not been clear or direct about the statement, “steady supply of beef”. It was with implications that if a BBQ joint wants to use a reputable source, they would have to pay higher costs due to being further away (proximity).

Strictly speaking in general sense, yes, there is a steady supply of beef all over the country. One can get a brisket anywhere but it tends to be either select or choice grade.

It is more convenient (cheaper) for BBQ joints to use reputable sources when they are near to them based on the proximity. Further away, the cost goes up. I’m referring to high quality briskets (prime grade), not the supermarket version.

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Evil_Clown69 t1_j6kbv64 wrote

I know I’m in the minority but I have been to ZZQ 4 times and it’s mediocre at best. No smoke flavor at all. And who uses a vinegar sauce in a Texas style restaurant? Or that sticky sweet rib sauce? Or the flavorless burnt ends? i can go on, but it’s the most overrated joint in VA. Oh, and the owners are less that cordial.

Better options:

Smohk which is like a block or two away. Buz N Ned’s. King’s (it’s in the wrong direction from the request but it’s solid). The Pig and Steak in Madison Allman’s in Fredericksburg Ronnie’s in Varina Hill Country in DC—can be inconstant but when it’s on, it’s great.

I’m told Redemption BBQ is great, but I’m not paying $28 a pound for pulled pork or chicken.

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Realtorandy t1_j6ke5yu wrote

Pork bbq at apierces or Kings bbq in Petersburg is on point though I have not been to kings since it reopened

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rabbiferret t1_j6ksryt wrote

I apologize in advance for dodging your question by saying better is subjective, and also ignoring your geography requirements, but have ya'll tried Saucy's BBQ Brisket in Petersburg & Hopewell?

My first trip I got the pulled pork, which was good but nothing crazy. The second time I chose brisket and I'm still thinking about it. So unexpected and so delicious.

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thatguynamed85 t1_j6kztvg wrote

If you want great bbq you need to drive to Edinburg in NW VA and hit up Beans downtown there. We have some customers we service in that area and anytime I'm up that way, it's the place to go. And quite frankly I'd prefer Saucys in Petersburg to zzq.

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gleepgloopgleepgloop t1_j6oe6bu wrote

Replying to Too_Many_dBs (#1,639,906)

I'm guessing the argument could continue forever. Someone Will say they can source Texas-bred prime beef at the same price in Virginia as it would be in Texas and someone else will say it's not hand selected quality, quality degrades with shipping, etc. Someone else will say that it's a little bit more but not to justify ZZQ price, and someone will retort that it's all about supply and demand, etc etc. Someone else will say that beef from Texas is not a better than good quality beef. From Virginia, etc. Etc etc

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