tellmeaboutyourcat

tellmeaboutyourcat t1_ja00b9h wrote

What the fuck? There is no price of admission to being in a society. The only obligation that I have to anyone is paying taxes. I do the other stuff because that's what I want to do. IDGAF what you do with your spare time or spare money.

All I've said is that homelessness is a social failure that needs to not exist and that rich people need to pay their fair share.

What I'm now wondering is what do you think is the acceptable number of days for a child to be homeless? Because to me it's zero. The first comment I replied to asked irrelevant questions about how many days those kids were homeless, as if that determines how they feel about whether or not it's worth doing something about it.

And if you interpret that as being a jerk, fine. But anyone who's cool with homeless kids is a jerk, so IDGAF.

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tellmeaboutyourcat t1_j9zzamk wrote

The problem is that taxes are being spent poorly. Again, the solution is twofold - rich people pay their fair share and the government does its job by taking care of the people.

And I don't know how much money you have so I can't say what your fair share is, and that's not my job, either.

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tellmeaboutyourcat t1_j9z0y6h wrote

Good for you, the person I was responding to didn't ask a question, they showed skepticism for my stance on homelessness.

It's a logical fallacy to point the finger at individuals to solve the homelessness problem. Just like with climate change and a host of other issues, the problem is systemic and needs to be fixed from the top. I do what I can to help my community, but we as a society need to come together to hold the government accountable for doing their job.

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tellmeaboutyourcat t1_j9ylqp7 wrote

No, I will not "come on now." Homelessness is a failure of society that we should all be ashamed of because we are all responsible for each other. The wealthy need to pay their fair share of taxes (which they don't because of endless loopholes) and those taxes need to go to support the least advantaged among us. That's how societies work, that is the purpose of society.

No, it's not the responsibility of any one individual, it's the responsibility of all of us.

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tellmeaboutyourcat t1_j53noku wrote

Exactly, I agree with everything you said here. I know many community colleges have trades programs built in (I took basic car repair courses at my local CC) as well as a variety of certificates available. There are a ton of ways to continue education beyond high school that doesn't require a private 4 year institution. Making more of those options free will make better jobs accessible to more people and will help a laundry list of economic issues.

Imagine what would happen if homeless vets could take trade courses for free while working the system to get back on their feet. Imagine if a single mom on disability could learn basic coding or get a certification in medical billing (an increasingly remote field).

I'm getting emotional, sorry. But education should be freely available and easily accessible for all. If we could make that investment we would see such an explosion in our economy.

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tellmeaboutyourcat t1_j4zz2vl wrote

Thank you for passing this all out. I'd heard the headline argument before and it made sense, but it was useful seeing your explanation.

Govt backed loans were intended to make college accessible for everyone, so I would suggest that while you're right, those loans should go away, there still needs to be an option for those who can't afford private loans of their own. Enter: free community college for everyone. You can get your associates or a trade certification for free and then decide if going for a private loan is worth continuing from there.

My personal philosophy is that higher education is valuable for everyone - not just as a workforce credential, but as an experience and an opportunity to learn more and spend more time figuring out where you want to go with your future. It also provides an opportunity for established folks to go back to school for a career change, so it provides flexibility in the workforce. I'm 15 years out of college and I would love to be able to take classes part time to get new skills to change careers, but I can't afford daycare and mortgage AND tuition. Having free community college options would be priceless for working people to expand their earning potential!

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