Nazi (noun)

Def: A loser in life who blames everyone else for failing at everything.

While you aren’t wrong, just calling them losers also deflects some accountability for the evil they adhere to. They have agency. They are capable of understanding what they are doing.

Is Kanye in town?

You joke, but after his BS blew up, I started seeing a big surge of Black Hebrew Israelite rallies.

Edit: For those in the back; the BHI movement is a black-supremacist anti-Jewish hate-movement that believes that the true tribes of Israel are various African nations, and that the Jews we know are pretenders. They believe the holocaust was "Eliminating the fake Jews to make way for the true Jews".

I did too. I had to take many deep breaths and quit Instagram because footage was everywhere.

I’m sure these goons aren’t here to have a meet up with the Black Israelites.

They live in a complete delusion.

bunch of fucking losers.

As a son of dad who fought nazis in ww2 and was in liberation of Dachau , and through postings of his unit have seen what soldiers posted , disgusted any American can believe and follow such filth. The inhumanity of the Nazis which caused 70 million to die should disgust any righteous person. All Americans should come out like the Danes did in ww2 and say today we are all Jewish, and will not tolerate nor accept such behavior.

What the hell has to be wrong in your life to participate in something called “Day of Hate”?

It was always there under the surface. In 1939 an American Nazi rally sold out Madison Square Garden. Far-right ideologies that marginalize other groups have always been in America. Post-Trump a lot of the deplorables feel emboldened.

It is both left and right and not deplorables , there is as much on the left if not more.

A lot - can't get paid, can't get laid, and need to blame it on someone else because they're so pathetic that they're unable to do anything about it.

If these fucks looked in mirror and couldn't blame the fucking disgrace looking back at them on someone else, they'd probably lose the motivation to keep going.

Not even going to bother with this one...

I dont agree with him but he is def right that traditionally the left has not been a friend to Jews.

NYC alone has hundreds of thousands of Soviet Jews that came here as refugees due to discrimination in the Soviet Union.

“…are we the baddies?”

Lol. “I didn’t say we weren’t fun, but fun or not pirates are still the baddies!”

Thanks for sharing this. It’s good to be informed.

How many of those posting on Telegram are NYPD?

https://youtu.be/fKIwj1TQmFs

Any word of any (peaceful) counter protests?

But it’s not a tenet of even the furthest point of leftism. At first, one of the most important outcomes of the February revolution led by Lenin was the abolishment of antisemitic policies within the government. But, the Soviet Union was not a perfect communist regime and was ruled by a dictator, Stalin, who after WW2 became even more paranoid and deranged. As a result, many policies were created to target minority groups. Regardless, you could say the same about the policies of the American government that targeted black people, Hispanic people, poor people, leftists, and even at one point Jews. I mean, at least the USSR wasn’t founded With antisemitism in mind, unlike the Nazis. However, America was built by white slave owners who wanted to avoid paying taxes who also committed genocide against the indigenous people of America in order to take their land. Like come on, if we’re gonna start pointing fingers, I don’t think we as a country have much a right to.

Sounds like something an edgy 11-year-old would come up with

>Is my life the consequence of my actions and decisions?

>No, the Jews must be keeping me down.

I dont give a shit about pointing as an American. Im saying as Jew that Communist regimes have fucking devastated my people and are evil. Im not saying that it was as bad as Nazism but antisemitism is very common among left wingers.

Im not even arguing about stuff in the past or just from a hypothetical POV. As a Jew I would say about 50% of the hate that I received in my life has been related to Israel and a lot of it has been from left wingers.

>USSR wasn’t founded With antisemitism

The USSR did go through its own "Jewish question" though.

Yeah, pretty much every country has. Regardless, you’re running defense for Nazis by “both sides-ing” this argument, even if that’s not your intention because the core tenet of Nazism is antisemitism. That was not the core tenet of the USSR and it’s extremely important that we get our facts straight when discussing this topic because no one’s hands are clean and the only way we’ll stop the spread ia if we examine everyone equally.

Ideologically I agree with you that Nazism is not equivalent in evil to the USSR. Im saying that in person especially in NYC left wing anti semitism is a massive issue.

Before I left NYC I thought people being openly hating of Jews through old stereotypes or Nazi beliefs was something in the past or something you saw on the internet. I thought that because while in NYC me and most of my friends had most hate directed at us by people who hate Israel who are very often left wingers.

Assuming it's going to be like 3 or 4 obese psychos waddling around in khakis, counter protests would just signal boost these morons.

> What the hell has to be wrong in your life to participate in something called “Day of Hate”?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_Week

Hate Week

>Hate Week is a fictional event in George Orwell's 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. Hate Week is a psychological operation designed to increase the hatred of the population for the current enemy of the totalitarian Party, as much as possible, whichever of the two opposing superstates that may be.

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Wolfenstein was among the first FPS's out there.

Killing nazis is an American pastime.

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This is not an exclusively right-leaning issue.

These supremacists of most sorts usually fall into one of two camps: (1) people who never grew out of their edgy 11-year-old phase, and (2) people devious enough to manipulate the first group.

Trump made it cool for white supremacists to "express" themselves.

8 years of having a black President really fucked with some people's heads.

Are you equating anti-zionism with antisemitism?

They were already crazy--Trump just said to them--hey--its okay. Vote for me.

Lol fair

No one knows yet where they'll be so it'll be hard to set up a counter protest

That’s what it’s sounding like.

I remember seeing a video of one of these in LA where the bloods and crips showed up and found a few who strayed from the pack. Wouldn’t mind seeing that here.

sounds like something made up

NYPD would never let it happen. They'll be there to protect their Nazi friends

I've litterly had this happen more then a dozen times to me. When people find out I'm Jewish I've litterly had people say "Why are the Jews killing people? Do you support this?" or some shit like "Why are the Jews and Israel controlling our government and media"

You dont have to support everything that Israel does but the main enemies of Israel today dont like Jews.

well shit man i'm pretty sure we've been living in Hate Millennium for quite some time now.

I said it in the New York City sub and I'll say it here.....

I'm gonna sit back at watch this sub, that wants to blame Black people for EVERYTHING, go through Olympic level mental gymnastics when everyone at this rally are white people.

Your point is missing much needed nuance. Israel today is no doubt an apartheid state and is moving further to the right. It's only going to get worse. And yes, some of its enemies just hate jewish people in general. However, imo, plenty more simply hate the actions taken by the Israeli government and hate the fact that our country financially supports all of it. Only dumbasses believe there is some sort of ethnic cabal of Jewish people running the media. However, there is also a substantially large lobby group named AIPAC that pays our politicians and influences media groups to use soft language when discussing Israel state crimes. Obviously, this subject is complicated enough that AIPAC can use antisemitism as a shield when it's subject to complaints about its treatment of second class citizens in Israel. But anyone who is using blanket statements like "Why are the Jews controlling our government and media" is obviously an antisemitic racist and they're not worth being around. Last thing, even when I've been plenty sensitive to the subject while discussing my issues on Israel with Israeli citizens, every single one of them has blown up in my face about it. I'm sure plenty of them have labeled me antisemitic as a result, but that's a ridiculous notion. If any left-winger is hating you for simply being Jewish, or hell, even Israeli, they're not a leftist imo and they should be told as such.

Isn’t February 25th Punch-a-Nazi Day?

>Last thing, even when I've been plenty sensitive to the subject while discussing my issues on Israel with Israeli citizens, every single one of them has blown up in my face about it.

People get mad when you tell them their nation doesn't have the right to exist. More so when that nation not existing means most of their family members will be exterminated or ethnically clensed.

>If any left-winger is hating you for simply being Jewish, or hell, even Israeli, they're not a leftist imo and they should be told as such.

Weird my entire family spent more then a century being oppressed by leftists.

This is fake.

> People get mad when you tell them their nation doesn't have the right to exist. More so when that nation not existing means most of their family members will be exterminated or ethnically clensed.

I've literally never said that.

> Weird my entire family spent more then a century being oppressed by leftists.

Well, I guess that means it's Israel's turn to oppress others then! :)

Regardless, there's clearly no discussion to be had here with you and you would rather discuss how bad leftism is in a thread about right wing fascists planning a protest against Jewish people. Gee, I wonder why that may be...

Every day is if you have the right attitude.

>I've literally never said that.

You said anti zionism. Zionism is the idea that Jews should have a Jewish state. It doesn't say you need discrimination or anything else. The vast vast majority of Jews consider anti zionists their enemy as anti zionists deny their right to self determination and would rather see half the Jews in the world placed in a dangerous situation.

>Regardless, there's clearly no discussion to be had here with you and you would rather discuss how bad leftism is in a thread about right wing fascists planning a protest against Jewish people

Its almost like that wasn't the only topic being discussed in this thread

>Well, I guess that means it's Israel's turn to oppress others then! :)

Where did you get that from?

From their perspective, their lives would be going great if it wasn't for all the jews, blacks, asians, Mexicans, gays, trans people, and women.

I continue to find it strange that anti-semitism only appears to matter on reddit when "white supremacists" demonstrate it on the internet and in liberal spaces. These are likely mostly dumbshits from out of state coming here because there are media studios, basically. I'll bet this has happened before too, but when hate crimes as a news story was a little less sexy.

When Kanye West made those comments...I saw Black Hebrew Israelites all over New York for at least a week, including in my neighborhood, probably for the first time, like street preachers. They marched through Brooklyn.

Did anyone care? I only saw coverage in the NYPost, maybe a few Jewish publications, and twitter. It matters because I suspect that's a much more local and active hate group than whoever these shitheads are. Members have participated in recent murders in the tristate area.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/us/jersey-city-new-jersey-shooting-thursday/index.html

The Hasidic community has experienced a higher rate of reported attacks in the last few years, and the members of this sub seem to vote for representatives that don't merely tolerate it, but fight to de-prosecute that. If you care about this...well, why do you?

From 2021: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/open-season-jews-new-york-city-hate-crimes

118 cases involving hate crime charges against Jews, 117 of them dropped. NYC prosecutors' offices probably aren't prosecuting easily 60% of random "misdemeanor" assaults, some of which have been discussed in this subreddit, and I can't imagine how many felony assaults they're downgrading.

Remember the attack on Joseph Borgen in May 2021? That was on camera. The guy that beat the shit out of him said he'd do it again on camera. No remorse, sure, but it's notable no fear of penalties either.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/victim-brutal-antisemitic-beat-down-speaks-manhattan-da-cuts-attacker-sweetheart-plea-deal

Where is the comparable outrage for stuff with hard consequences in this city, with a real body count?

It doesn't mean these dumbasses hoping for media coverage in a city with a high density of self-identified Jews and Hasidim isn't of significance, but it's mostly a performance. A stupid, gross spectacle by attenion-seeking carpetbaggers.

But when we're talking about New York City over the last 3-5 years and hate incidents involving actual injury and death to victims, instilling long-term fear and hopelessness among people who (correctly) surmise the state won't act to protect them from cruelty and violence...it's fascinating how disinterested the sorts of people that populate this sub are, and it makes the righteous outrage seem more like selective, unserious virtue-signalling.

Downvotes for what reason? A lot of people here act like themselves and who the align with are morally superior

Yes. It's a thin line that a lot of people cross

“My mom said I can come to the Day of Hate but have to be home by dinner. “

Honestly, while the rally will probably be overwhelmingly white, I'm sure a few black people will squeak in. There has been a rise of black antisemitism. The right sees it as either "Well they're all like that" or embraces it depending on which style of racist they are. The left is really bad at calling it out.

Yeah, but that was an example of the horrors of life under Big Brother. Who looks at that and thinks it's a great idea we should be doing?

Video games peaked at Wolfenstein. Doom and Quake excluded of course.

I'd say upwards of 0

What the actual fuck

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provide an example

give a Left example

Literally the first thing I thought. Great minds.

Under Trump, unlike during the Obama reign, the US stopped rebuking Israel for its settlements in the West Bank and quit condemning Israel for simply defending itself from terrorist attacks targeting civilians.

The Trump administration was a strong opponent of the shamelessly anti-Semitic BDS (boycott, divestment and sanctions) movement, supported by three out of four House Democrats known as “the Squad”, which seeks to isolate Israel and destroy its economy.

Trump also signed an executive order giving Jews greater legal protections against persecution.

Democrats routinely smeared Trump as “Hitler” and “anti-Semitic.” It was a false and disgusting trope, even as the Democratic Party drifted further from bipartisan support against anti-Semitism and for Israel. Reports suggested that Trump was responsible for a rise in hate crimes, ignoring the fact that for the previous eight years under Obama-Biden, attacks on Jews were among the top three hate crimes (although they rarely made headlines).

Biden, meanwhile, has largely followed his fellow Democrats in moving away from strong, steadfast support for Israel. Many in the party openly embrace anti-Semitic rhetoric and policies, and the failure of Democratic leaders to condemn both is disturbing.

Worse, Biden is trying desperately to reanimate the dangerous Iran nuclear deal, which would facilitate Tehran’s nuclear ambitions and undercut our Arab allies while endangering Israel’s very existence.

Most Jewish voters chose Biden and vote Democrat for various reasons, but they should seriously consider joining other traditional Democrat voting blocs in abandoning the party. It’s long past time for Jewish voters to end their longstanding, but unrequited, loyalty to the Democrats, who clearly no longer care about their concerns.

70 million?

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The Kanye thing is not even a joke anymore , a figure as big as him making anti semitism being okay was a huge blow and propped a lot of hate crimes against Jews unfortunately

Totally psyop tier fedbait event.

6 million?

I could, that’s an arguably easier point to prove. Black people for far too too long have been ignored and manipulated by the Demogorgon party.

and the republican party? and trump?

Sounds like a psyop planned by those trying to use race division to further their agenda. Anyone who truly attends these needs to be documented, and exposed accordingly.

A Republican President may be our last hope. May God bless these United States of America.

Total number of people who died becsue of nazis due to ww2

Bds movement and anti zionism is just another smoother way.

It’s the same thing with anti-Asian hate. Thousands of Asian Americans being viciously attacked and nobody cares. But if there’s some way to blame it on White Supremacy and by association, the right, then the issue hits the front page. Nobody actually cares about the victims unless it can be weaponized to further their own sociopolitical interests and agenda.

no i mean, what good have Republicans and Trump done for black Americans?

Under Republican presidencies, like President Trump, black Americans experience more opportunities, prosperity, security, and fairness than under any other democratic president ever.

any specific programs, policy changes, etc you can cite?

sauce

But that’s incorrect. Over 20 million were Chinese, which had no direct conflict with the Nazis but instead fought the Japanese (and had their own brutal civil war). In a weird twist of history a Nazi party member named John Rabe helped save 250,000 civilians in China during the Japanese rape of Nanking. It would be more accurate to say that the total 70 million dead were due to Axis aggression, not just the Nazis.

Tough. Wouldn’t be a problem if there wasn’t such strict laws on gun rights in NYC. These people can’t properly defend themselves smh.

Please don't give them the attention they're seeking...They are looking for a fight.

I peaked at leisure suit Larry

Or you know, the people threatening them don't have easy access to guns so it's a good thing.

>The President’s [Trump's] proposal calls for the elimination of the Minority Business Development Agency

https://usblackchambers.org/news-events/trumps-budget-eliminates-key-resource-for-black-entrepreneurs/

that's one of the programs Trump's flyer says he wants to make permanent, and to elevate, under the "access to capital for black owned businesses" heading

Or they could be coming from different parts of the state where it’s easier to get a firearm I.e. areas of upstate. Not like LI and the Lower Hudson Valley as well as NYC. Who am I kidding though gun control doesn’t really work. Look at Chicago. NYC. Los Angeles. I could go on and on but all of the major cities that have seriously tight gun control have major street crime/violence problems. Wanna know why? Street criminals don’t get their guns legally. But lefties like you don’t understand concepts like that. So stupid.

Yup, he’s streamlining black-owned businesses!

what does that mean? you mean that MBDA stands in the way of black-owned business? his flyer claims he wants to lionize the MBDA, but he sought to close it.

Is this really a thing or some dumb 4chan hoax?

Anti-Zionism isn’t hateful nor anti-semitic.

Oh yes it is ..especially if you understand Judaism..it is the land of Abraham Isaac and jacob..

> Oh yes it is

Except for the fact that it’s not.

Lol, u so silly!

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Lmao if this isn’t the most echo chamber-y comment of all time on here. You can’t throw a stick without hitting a comment about how people aren’t paying attention to the real cases of anti-semitism being perpetrated by those (read: black) people, when statistically, they aren’t even the supermajority of anti-semitic incidents.

Gtfo of here, fascist scum. You’re embarrassing yourself by treating Fox News like news instead of the propaganda it is.

Except the vast majority of anti-Asian hate crimes were perpetrated by white people. So it definitely is apt to call it a case of white supremacy.

You people sometimes…

Yeah, no.

I've lived in New York my whole life and have been attacked many, many times for my race. I don't recall ever it being a White person violently attacking me. I've hundreds of Asian American family members and friends who live in New York, and they all have similar experiences.

Of course you'd dismiss the above as just anecdotes, so let's use the cold, hard statistics.

White Americans make up 76% of the US population and are responsible for 24% of the crimes committed against Asian Americans every year. Black Americans make up 13% of the US population and are responsible for 27% of the crimes committed against Asian Americans every year. Adjusted for percentage of population, that means Black Americans, compared to Whites, are 6.5x more likely to attack Asians.

Interesting note: Asian Americans commit less than 10 crimes per year against Black Americans. It is such a rare occurrence that they cannot even reliably record a number for it in crime statistics. This makes the ratio of crimes committed against each other between the two groups to be anywhere from 5,000 to 50,000. That is to say for every one crime Asian Americans commit against Black Americans, there are 5,000-50,000 crimes committed in return.

Source:

US Department of Justice Statistics

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf

Sad losers who need something to take their aggression out on

Wish I would've known. Would go and throw rotten eggs at them.

What rally?

Chicago was one of the safest cities in the nation when they had strict gun control laws. They were targeted for litigation by the NRA in the early 2010s. They eventually brought their new, looser gun laws on line by 2013. We all saw what happened. I always chuckle when Guntards bring up Chicago. It's a prime example of what the NRA spent millions of member dollars trying to make happen.

I think one of the problems is Hasidic communities fought for the extremist equivalent of sharia law in NYC. They have their own police entities, their own courts. They've achieved full separatism and the NYPD and District Attorneys office isn't much interested in doing tons of casework where their personnel is being pushed to the backseat constantly and certain offenders are protected. Full autonomy is double edged sword for sure.

Any word of violent counter protests?

Incels not fuckers

The only good nazi is a dead nazi. If I was one of these folks I'd be more concerned about someone following me home after their silly clown parade is done.

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This article

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270821

And this report

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/19llMUCDHX-hLKru-cnDCq0BirlpNgF07W3f-q0J0ko4/mobilebasic

Beg to differ.

But what else can I suspect from someone who defends Kyle rittenhouse

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Yeah, man. I have a theory that this Nazi shit is popping up because all the WW2 vets are dead. I’m in my thirties and growing up in Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Staten Island, I always had WW2 vets around who fucking hated nazis. My grandpa, who fought all over Europe used to grab my arm whenever I passed him and Fuck with me by saying, “This is how you break a Nazi arm,” and then go to snap it over his knee. I imagine there were WW2 vets in most neighborhoods across the country for 60 years who kinda kept a lid on this shit because they commanded respect, especially from white males.

Pong was my peak, maybe space invader.

I smell Steve Bannon stink on this probably with help from his Russian buddies.

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The Guardian Angels don't maintain their own court and law enforcement agencies that are deferred to by secular governmental authority nor do they require secular courts to interpret religious contracts as law.

See: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/11/10/outcast-3

Or: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/nyregion/orthodox-jewish-divorce-custody-ny.html

This shouldn't happen but it routinely does.

You can smell the man through pictures.

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The (since defeated) Brooklyn DA chose to bring criminal charges against a man for refusing to accept the mediated outcome of the Bes Din (and not getting permission from the rabbi to testify in a secular court.) And the second article is generally about the unconstitutional disaster that is the Get laws in NY...specifically a case where a (now former) state Supreme Court Judge actually took away custody of a woman's children on the basis that she violated her religious marriage contract to remain a member of the orthodox community. Like that is shocking stuff that would have Americans who believe in the first amendment absolutely furious when that happens in Detroit. Everyone has the right to private arbitration, even if it's through a church, but to be prosecuted or lose child custody for opting out of religious based arbitration is unconstitutional.

The relationship between the shomrim and the secular authorities is far messier than it is with any other vigilante group. To pretend otherwise is borderline willfull ignorance. They various shomrim have HUGE influence over the Borough Park precinct to the point where they often assault and kidnap 'suspects' with impunity. But the Brooklyn DAs office isn't as cozy with the Orthodox communities as it used to be. And not everyone in New York is going to genuflect to that voting block. A lot of the confusion is a mess by design. They demand autonomy and freedom from prosecution when it suits them but lashes out when it doesn't. It's a lot of lying down in a bed already made. The demand that the NYPD needs a 100% clearance rate on anti Hasidic hate crimes while simultaneously demanding the NYPD look the other way as shomrim commit hate crimes in the end makes community relations worse

Let's see. Should I trust the official US Department of Justice Statistics, or should I trust a Google Document from an obviously biased source using extremely limited set of data to reach the conclusion they already wanted? And why is physical violence limited to "spitting, coughing, and sneezing"? Why does the "research" purposely omit all the incidents of Asian Americans being brutally attacked and even killed? This is absolute garbage.

I guess nobody taught you confirmation or selection bias in school. Idiots like you can even believe the earth is flat. And you'll Google until you find an article by some hack journalist that agrees with you.

Wild how New Yorkers will allow this. The Shomrim assaults people constantly but will let this fly?

would you explain the point you were making, please?

It def is ...

Lol, you’re still hung up on this? No, it’s not. It’s not antisemitic to be anti-Zionist.

Is that the 'study' where they looked at news sources that identified the race of the perpetrator and skipped those that didn't? So, for example, there were 100 articles on hate crime attacks with 10 mentioning white and 1 mentioning black, they'd say whites are 10x more likely to commit hate crime, while ignoring 89% of the articles.

Dam right I am cause it is and you probably are one

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aight bro, you should know that for all your writing here, you looked bad and ended up flat on your face.

Lol, it’s really not, they’re two totally separate things.

It's also the study that compared "shunning" to actual, criminal assault.

It's political propaganda meant to misdirect from the political actors enabling criminals to torment people, without consequence.

This was a hoax. This never happened.

Color me shocked.