Submitted by Daywalkingvampire t3_yavanz in pittsburgh
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mrsrtz t1_itd37wv wrote
It was a department store, like Kaufmann's or Horne's.
mutinybligh t1_itd3n5y wrote
I think it was a department store,like Kaufmann’s, Horne’s and Sears…
chiphook57 t1_itd457y wrote
spectraphysics t1_itd5iou wrote
I miss this place
mikeyHustle t1_itda48x wrote
I am absolutely living for these other comments that are basically "It was just like these other dead stores you probably don't know."
But yeah, department store. Clothes, housewares, jewelry. Like if you went back in time to before Target sold food, and if people respected the clothing. And add jewelry.
Augiehack t1_itdbmjn wrote
Omg you unlocked a memory with Hornes...forgot all about them
username-1787 t1_itdc1fi wrote
Everything
deepblue66 t1_itdgjlr wrote
Believe it or not but I bought my first VCR there 😂
Hmgeisler t1_itdh56u wrote
OcelotWolf t1_itdh5ou wrote
Remember when Buddy the Elf decorated a store for Christmas? And then sat on imposter-Santa’s lap and got in a fight with the manager that completely demolished half the store? Yeah that was a Gimbels
OwtoIwtn t1_itdhjhg wrote
The big 3 Gimbel’s, Kauffman’s and Horne’s, all gone. 😕I visited them all frequently as a kid.
Davmilasav t1_itdicnp wrote
Gimbel's, Horne's, and Sears were the three anchor stores at Beaver Valley Mall throughout the 1970s. I think Horne's became Lazarus and Gimbel's changed to Kaufman's when that store left Monaca but I could have them backwards.
SWPenn t1_itdjdqs wrote
The "Big Three," Kaufmanns, Gimbels, and Horne's, were massive downtown department stores. There were others like Frank & Seder, McCreery's, Spear & Co., Boggs & Buhl, Rosenbaum's, and Saks Fifth Avenue. Lord & Taylor was also here for a few years. Kaufmanns and Gimbels were each bigger than 1 million square feet and carried everything from clothing to garden supplies and appliances. Back before more women entered the workforce, they would spend the entire day in these stores shopping, having lunch, and going to fashion shows. Kaufmann's alone had 11 restaurants. Also, Wednesdays was "Ladies Day," downtown, when the movie theaters had special matinees beginning at 10 am.
thoughtmecca t1_itdkjtj wrote
Now defunct, regional department stores are my jam. All y’all are forgetting Lazarus too.
mrsrtz t1_itdmfcj wrote
More about Gimbels - I remember when Saks had a section on the 6th floor of Gimbel's, with their own elevator, this was before they renovated and moved into the old W.T. Grant Building, at the corner of Smithfield and Oliver.
(Grant's was a 5&10, like Murphy's, Woolworth's, McCrory's, and Kresge's).
mrsrtz t1_itdmw9a wrote
I think you will enjoy this website, then, as much as I do!
ShoppinInDa412 t1_itdmxg8 wrote
Also back when the store employees actually knew their shit and cared about the job because they were paid a decent wage.
NoSwimmers45 t1_itdn96o wrote
A higher quality Walmart without groceries.
First_name_Lastname5 t1_itdos71 wrote
What didn't they.
Asleep_Heron2179 t1_itdq1w7 wrote
Lazarus closed up in like 5 years.
plantatreeretard t1_itdq7re wrote
gimbel’s is gone. long gone.
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_itdqfij wrote
Yes I know I was curious as to what they sold.
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_itdqj4j wrote
IDK it was gone long before I was born.
mikeyHustle t1_itdqttr wrote
That's a figure of speech. It's like saying they sold everything. "What DIDN'T they sell?!"
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_itdqw6z wrote
mikeyHustle t1_itdqxwt wrote
The Kaufman's became a Macy's before it closed.
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_itdr6c2 wrote
Happy cake day
plantatreeretard t1_itdrfbo wrote
tabouleh and reshmi kebab
mikeyHustle t1_itdrko5 wrote
Haha, thank you.
And thanks for bringing up Gimbel's. It closed before I was born, too, but my grandma loved to talk about it. She said she used to pay her Gimbel's bill (before you used the same credit card everywhere, they had their own charge account) with a check, and they'd shove it into a vacuum tube and physically shoot it upstairs. I thought it was wild how this was old tech from the past, but it sounded like The Jetsons future.
Ninjago987 t1_itdsofj wrote
Was going to say if they don’t know Gimbles probably won’t know Hornes. It’s been quite a while.
lefindecheri t1_itdvi0o wrote
35 years ago, I worked at Mellon Bank and would pop over to Kaufmann's on my lunch hour. In the winter, I wouldn't wear a coat or take my purse, only my credit card in my pocket. So customers thought I worked there and would ask me for directions. Where's the fur storage? Where's the hair salon? Where's gift wrap? I always knew the answers. I should have gotten Kaufmann's to pay me for my services! Or at least given me a nice discount.
StyreneAddict1965 t1_itdw5z9 wrote
I wish I could have experienced downtown Pittsburgh in its heyday.
MissMurderpants t1_itdy8dj wrote
The one in Pittsburgh was awesome. It had a haberdasher and one of the best liquor selections inside it. I was too young to purchase but I could browse and it’s where I first saw Poire William. It was fancy and had great items in there. I was in there last in the late 80’s.
LovedAJackass t1_itdz4rf wrote
You could also get quality furniture at all three stories.
OwtoIwtn t1_itdzcln wrote
Mom was a big Saturday shopper.
lefindecheri t1_itdzdja wrote
Up until a few years ago, my BofA drive thru used those pneumatic tubes to deposit cash/checks and receive deposits. "Pneumatic tubes are systems that propel cylindrical containers through networks of tubes by compressed air or by partial vacuum."
AmbientGravitas t1_itdzp8n wrote
My grandmother was an interior decorator for Hornes.
rickrowld t1_itdzqb5 wrote
Christ. Enough of this. People care when they feel valued.
dunredding t1_ite03ee wrote
Everything, but not as much as Kaufmann's
SWPenn t1_ite054w wrote
It was packed and had something for everybody. Before the suburban malls and shopping centers, downtown was THE place to shop, dine, go to movies, and meet friends. Before suburban multiplexes, movies premiered downtown only and played for weeks and weeks, then move to the neighborhood theaters.
PurplePigeon96 t1_ite0nxv wrote
Gimbel's was in North Hills Village where Burlington is currently. Then it was Hill's after that in the early 90's till that turned into Ames and then the mall closed.
333scorpio t1_ite0roj wrote
Hell yeah!!! Spent many hours on that floor. Right around the same time, 83-84, Kaufmann's had one arcade game in the young men's section, I think they had Herbie Hancock's Rockit looping on multiple tv's.
PurplePigeon96 t1_ite0wla wrote
I would compare Gimbel's to modern day Kohl's honestly. They had lots of bargain deal racks and maybe a bargain section. Growing up in the 80's we shopped at the North Hills one a lot but we didn't have a ton of money.
SWPenn t1_ite175b wrote
I remember they had a huge pantyhose department on the street floor near the Smithfield Street doors so women who worked downtown and "had a run" could get new ones quickly during their lunch hour.
StyreneAddict1965 t1_ite192c wrote
I've seen pictures. It must have been amazing.
AnonPlzzzzzz t1_ite1owf wrote
Tell me you never seen ELF without telling me you've never seen ELF...
thatburghfan t1_ite1zoj wrote
Lazarus' owners purchased Horne's and put the Lazarus name on them.
ImportanceBig4448 t1_ite22bl wrote
Thimbles
Ham_Ahoy t1_ite2l43 wrote
You're gimbels!
tiredassmom66 t1_ite3l7p wrote
I worked for Hornes as a buyer
Jen-Barkley t1_ite4cfb wrote
My mother worked at Horne’s in the early ‘60s.
WoodpeckerFar9804 t1_ite4kwz wrote
That’s brilliant
WoodpeckerFar9804 t1_ite4sf2 wrote
I don’t even think women wear pantyhose anymore, do they? I haven’t worn a pair in years!
whenwillthisend19 t1_ite6d9x wrote
Forgot Eiben &Errs on 10th? Where the bus bought it. Bought my first set of golf clubs there. 1969 maybe.
jaycee9799 t1_ite6t1f wrote
Each of the contemporary department stores had their own delivery fleets before the prevalence of UPS and Fedex. I think Gimbels trucks were green. You could take the trolley to town, buy a refrigerator, couch , toys for the kids, wait a week, and everything would be delivered.
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_ite7314 wrote
So almost like Amazon
Ok_Elephant2777 t1_ite7685 wrote
Check out the original “Miracle on 34th (?) Street”. Gimbals was Macy’s main competition back in the day.
mikeyHustle t1_ite7gug wrote
I think that's exactly what they were saying. Unless you're implying you can care when you feel valued but not paid, but I don't think so.
grammargrl t1_ite87ay wrote
Zildjian and Sabian didn't stand a chance here in the Burgh.
LayneInVain t1_ite8am4 wrote
Basically, a throwback Macy’s.
LayneInVain t1_ite8e2w wrote
grammargrl t1_ite8f9n wrote
Thimbles and cymbals!
Buttercupia t1_ite92di wrote
Everything! Great store. The big 3 downtown, Kaufmann’s, Gimbels, and Hornes.
jaycee9799 t1_itea0p5 wrote
Yes, but shopping at a store like Kaufmann was like a curated experience. The clerks in individual departments were tenured experts My grandmother was in charge of the area that sold men's handkerchiefs . She would interview a customer and make recommendations
SWPenn t1_iteaoas wrote
You got to know the sales people because it was their career and they stayed for years. Each department was staffed with multiple sales people who helped you pick out what you wanted. They were knowledgeable about everything they sold and would call when something came in that they thought you might like.
aesthetichovvell t1_iteapmz wrote
My grandfather was a truck driver for Gimbel's. I come from a looong line of truck drivers
Dartonion t1_iteb5z2 wrote
Recently got rid of a Horne's cardboard box my family had been using to package presents and gift things back and forth for years. Recently as in, 4 months ago. I have a pic of it somewhere I'll put up if I figure out how.
lefthandb1ack t1_iteb72o wrote
I was a child clothing model for Gimbels. MFrs put my 10 year old ass in my damn underwear and stood me next to a pretty teenage girl in a nightgown. THEY HUNG THE PICTURES UP IN THE HALLWAY OF MY GRADE SCHOOL
Augiehack t1_itebeuy wrote
Ahh I was debating posting this.. I'm little "young" to really remember Hornes BUT remember my Mom talking about it AND my friends Mom would give him his Christmas presents on Hornes boxes until like 2010ish.
awesome that others have this same memory
greentea1985 t1_itebhlj wrote
Imagine a store like Walmart or Target but multi-storied and considered fancy, sometimes with extremely nice restaurants in them. That’s what the old department stores were, like Gimbel’s. It’s what Macy’s was like until relatively recently.
DiscoTheWolf t1_itebxp2 wrote
Gin & Eggs
mjw217 t1_itecdbh wrote
Horne’s had a wonderful art supply department. I also loved their book department and record department. The first time I was allowed to go back to school shopping with a friend I bought some really nice skirts and tops (couldn’t wear pants to school back then). Then we went to the book department. I went a bit nuts with mom’s credit card. (Each department store had their own.) Because they were books she wasn’t too upset, but I had to return about 2/3 of them. Horne’s was our favorite because our bus stop was nearby.
Kaufmann’s was where you (well, my family) went for “special” shopping. I got my wedding dress there and had most of my registry there. When I had my kids I loved their kids department. They had a great makeup department, too.
We didn’t go to Gimbels much. I don’t know why.
NoSwimmers45 t1_itecrmg wrote
Ha! Tell me a better reference people are guaranteed to understand. Lots of people citing Kaufmann’s and Hornes. There are generations of people who have no idea what those are. And believe it or not there are plenty who have no idea what Macys or Sears were either. But I bet you everyone on this thread knows what a Walmart or Target are. Maybe I should have said that…a higher end Target…
randomatic t1_itee7i8 wrote
Watch Miracle on 34th street this holiday season to see. classic.
JerryHathaway t1_itefolv wrote
That was a Simpsons reference.
Adam_Rahuba t1_iteil5y wrote
Gum balls
ThunderRyuXIII t1_itej52r wrote
Gimbels
Tutux2 t1_itejly8 wrote
Or Kaufmann’s either 🤣
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_itek04p wrote
My aunt used to work Horne's dept. Store
mokayemo t1_itek758 wrote
Came for the Elf reference. Thanks for not disappointing me! Have a useless award.
DragonflyValuable128 t1_itekr77 wrote
More like Korvettes.
DragonflyValuable128 t1_itekvrq wrote
Does Macys tell Gimbels?
ventorun t1_iteneqf wrote
Yeah, but you were knee deep in that sweet Gimbel’s model money, right?
lefthandb1ack t1_itenr50 wrote
$35/hr in 80-83 was hella money but as far as I know I never saw an actual dime. Could be I was wearing it and was unaware, or it was for gas and tickets to kennywood 🤷🏻♂️
gmwdim t1_itenzap wrote
Thanks, Christopher!
ventorun t1_iteoajj wrote
After party at Chuck E Cheese!
NYCinPGH t1_iteob92 wrote
Oooh, I used to go to a Korvette’s with my mom, near-ish our house when I was growing up. We’d always park on the ‘ground’ floor, because it gave cover from the upper parking deck - kinda like the parking ‘garage’ at Century III - and there were offices / services on the top floor that always intrigued me, because we never went there.
Flaky-Crew-3382 t1_iteppt7 wrote
lefthandb1ack t1_itepz4b wrote
Wow man you really gild the lily
SteeleDynamics t1_iteqfzb wrote
Gimbals and Gumballs
Shiloh_4336 t1_iteqrio wrote
My " desk" is a display table that I got from Horne's when they were selling everything in the place.
tiredassmom66 t1_iteqsoy wrote
Alright - Jenkins Arcade
kmc1124 t1_itesp02 wrote
This tradition is still on going in my family… Hornes box and all!!!
idkbruhwild t1_itetdqz wrote
I wish places like this were still around, it seems like such a nice way to spend an afternoon (and all of my money)
deVriesse t1_iteu42t wrote
They missed the mark when they tried to branch out into gimbals.
These_Plastic5571 t1_iteud9v wrote
I’m still bitter about Jenkins Arcade! Miss it. My favorite building downtown!!
These_Plastic5571 t1_iteui01 wrote
I was just lamenting with my 91 year old mom about how much I miss all of the department stores. East Liberty had Mansmans!
tiredassmom66 t1_iteuisc wrote
We used to go to the button store there which was pretty magical. They had so many choices
SultanOfSwat0123 t1_itew72n wrote
So funny Eiben story. He owned C. Mel Eiben’s Jewelry shop downtown too. I was like 14 years old golfing at Frosty Valley and I get paired with C. Mel Eiben and his grandson. Now old man Eiben was VERY old at the time and the grandson was probably old enough to be my father. Had no business being anywhere within 1000 miles of a golf course as he could barely move. But I was a polite kid and listened to his stories the entire round with great fervor. Nearing the end of the round he tells me he wrote an autobiography and basically demands that I give him my address to send it to me. I complied thinking I was appeasing him and that it would be free and about a month or two later it comes packaged (autographed and all) in a large manilla envelope in the mail with a mailing address to send like $25 back for the book. I was a kid but I will never forget thinking, “Holy shit I got hustled by a 90 year old man.” It was hysterical. My next thought was, “How the Hell am I going to explain to Mom that I need $25 to send to this old guy for a book I didn’t want?”
The next time I go to my mom’s I’m going to have to do some digging around as I’m sure it’s still there hidden away somewhere.
https://obituaries.post-gazette.com/obituary/casper-melvin-eiben-1081516808
His obituary even mentions the book, Forks in the Road. Based on my math he would have been about 84 so not quite as old as I thought but holy cow what a character.
chartreuse6 t1_itewt78 wrote
Some of us do lol
scorched_mirth t1_itexc11 wrote
That was the 1940s, and it was thick with air pollution.
BethLynnOLF t1_itf00d7 wrote
I don't remember a Gimbles in Century 3. Yet, behold.... https://youtu.be/gsJ1fX4UeZM
These_Plastic5571 t1_itf2xog wrote
The last I knew, Parker Button was on East Carson Street! My mom loved it in there too! I had an eye doctor in Jenkins Arcade. I was so fascinated by the openness of the whole building. Always busy! And a great short cut to Horne’s!!
Key_Dust7595 t1_itf2xzo wrote
I grew up with Century III Mall in the 80s when it was amazing, and it had Gimble’s, Horne’s, Montgomery Ward’s, JC Penney, and Sears, and gained a Kaufmann’s after Horne’s left. And I have wonderful memories of the Kaufmann’s downtown, especially at Christmas; visiting their window display and their Christmas department were the highlights of my family’s Light Up Night celebration.
DennisG47 t1_itfar7r wrote
Eiben & Irr.
DennisG47 t1_itfba28 wrote
My grandmother worked there and she got 10% discount on everything in the store. However, once a month they had 15% day and on that day her children got to alternate who would get to use Nana"s charge-a-plate to get the 15% off everything their entire family needed.
Edit: And shipping, home delivery of whatever you bought was always free.
ravia t1_itfbds3 wrote
G. C. Murphy's had parakeets. Did Gimbel's?
ravia t1_itfbg7k wrote
Wait. Liquor? Wasn't that totally a matter for State stores?
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_itfbnuu wrote
Growing up I grew to resent sears's photo department. Everytime they put out coupons for a sale for a photo special, (they would air it on tv mentioning to watch the Sunday paper for coupons) my mom would clip them and rush me down to sears to have my picture taken. As a 6year old I did not fancy this as fun/did not want my picture taken. I would try everything from running out of the waiting room of the portrait studio to moving at the last second when the photographer was ready to snap the picture.
GuncleShark t1_itfd1gz wrote
My aunt was an elevator operator at Horne’s.
GuncleShark t1_itfdbqm wrote
I don’t remember if Gimbel’s did, but Kaufmann’s definitely had a pet department.
Worried_Astronaut_41 t1_itfu4nc wrote
My grandmother would take us to gambles on Saturdays in the morning.
BuffyTheMoronSlayer t1_itfu58x wrote
My grandma was a store detective for Kaufmann and Hornes. She worked a bunch of different locations including the downtown ones.
SWPenn t1_itfuzix wrote
There was a fine wine department in Horne's in the 70s and 80s. Don't know what the legality was, but it was there.
gordiarama t1_itg54h3 wrote
That’s so awesome!
gordiarama t1_itg66t3 wrote
Thank you! Just went down a rabbit hole on the site which ended in buying a book about Kaufmanns on Amazon. Didn’t know until now that I needed that book!
dtrain__ t1_itg77s9 wrote
My cousins uncles fathers mothers kid used to be a toilet cleaner there
mrsrtz t1_itg8e83 wrote
mrsrtz t1_itg934b wrote
Looks like they moved to Butler Street, I guess they are inside Clarissa Boutique.
mrsrtz t1_itg9kah wrote
I kind of think Amazon is like the old Sear's catalog back in the old, old days. Before there were Sears stores.
I don't think you can buy a house on Amazon though.
Teddy-bare1713 t1_itgepq2 wrote
What was that like? And how do i start a career in that?
Temporary-Voice8174 t1_itgfms1 wrote
It was a department store. Any type of clothing shoes perfume etc.
Guilty_Cup3377 t1_itggga1 wrote
Go watch “Are You Being Served” and imagine a Yinzer accent instead of a British one. You’ll get the picture. Great show and man do I miss real service.
First_name_Lastname5 t1_itgggcz wrote
I don't know honestly. Wasn't around for it tbh but I'm kind of a Pittsburgh nerd so I know they had a lot of stuff.
tiredassmom66 t1_itggn9g wrote
It was super fun- it was the 80’s. Lol. So I had worked in retail since I was 16, with increasingly better jobs. I graduated from college and went into a buyer training program at hornes. So you will definitely need retail experience and you need to be good with numbers and computers and you need to find a major chain that is looking for people.
JustHereForTheSaul t1_itgmliw wrote
An interiah decoratah? Her apahtment looked like shit!
hydrospanner t1_itgp3g2 wrote
>and would call when something came in that they thought you might like.
Really?
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While I'm sure they'd stop if you asked them to, that just seems like "ending up on some company's mailing list" of the pre-internet age.
44problems t1_itgy6sz wrote
Those department stores didn't sell groceries though right? Like you couldn't buy a head of lettuce and a raw T-bone.
I went to the downtown Kaufmann's a few times in college right at the end of that brand. While it was far from its heyday, it was impressive. And I remember going floor to floor and sometimes seeing ones just empty with one person working the rug and carpet department hoping this 19 year old was interested. Liked the bookstore on top.
greentea1985 t1_itgyj2w wrote
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. If they sold food, it’d be specialty pantry items, not anything requiring refrigeration. Cookies, candy, etc.
colawars t1_itgyqmy wrote
We did this at Kaufmann's when I worked there in the early 2000's.
44problems t1_ith26rb wrote
It's fun finding a Hornes box mixed in with your parents Christmas wrapping
44problems t1_ith2ef7 wrote
It makes sense. Target was a discount version of a Minneapolis department store called Dayton's. Another that was eventually eaten up by Macy's.
ChavoGuerrero_o t1_ith2ko3 wrote
My dad worked there in the 70s and 80s.
freeportme t1_ith2koz wrote
What didn’t they!
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_ith6n79 wrote
I grew up with hornes department store. I got gifts constantly from there.
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_ith7eo1 wrote
give it enough time and I'm sure they'll try to
Nikkylicky45 t1_ithferg wrote
Is this a Burlington now? The downtown Burlington
NathanLocke t1_ithghf7 wrote
Horne's gave me my first credit card.
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_ithh8y7 wrote
the thing I miss most about Hornes is Max and Irma's
thatburghfan t1_ithjq8s wrote
My parents are the same way - you better hand those boxes back to them after you open the presents and the stick-on bow, too! I've seen Hornes, Kaufmann's, Gimbels, even a Service Merchandise box.
44problems t1_ithmf0s wrote
Service Merchandise! Fill out some paperwork and wait for your toaster
gordiarama t1_ithz4u0 wrote
Thank you! I ordered the one from the first link. I’ll look at the Hornes one too.
AmbientGravitas t1_iti9iln wrote
Store detective >> interior decorator !
AmbientGravitas t1_iti9q0m wrote
I love that episode!
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_itimag0 wrote
I've seen are you being served as a child.(my guardians used to watch it)
Daywalkingvampire OP t1_itimjeo wrote
Lol you just made my day😀 thank you so much I needed the laugh.
JustHereForTheSaul t1_itiqyxg wrote
Best episode ever!
shortblondcatlady t1_itixftu wrote
My grandma was a buyer for the misses and junior departments!
antalog t1_itj351x wrote
What do you do that requires pantyhose??
chartreuse6 t1_itj37w6 wrote
I wore them to a wedding with a dressier dress. I’ve worn them at Christmas
Guilty_Cup3377 t1_itj52wa wrote
Lol, my GF and I are obsessed with BBC shows, new and old.
1029Dash t1_itd34ni wrote
It was a department store like Kaufmann’s was