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Romanovs_Penguin t1_iwv3f34 wrote
Motor Oil. Works great in the snow blower.
merikus t1_iwv48hr wrote
This seems like a good opportunity to link my favorite NPR April Fools story, where they reveal that table syrup is made by boiling old tables made out of maple trees: https://www.npr.org/2005/04/01/4571982/april-fools-new-england-suffers-maple-woes
bobcatprowl t1_iwv4kcx wrote
You just identified it: garbage
twowheels OP t1_iwv53fm wrote
That's a great one! :) It's especially good in the flat NPR voice...
twowheels OP t1_iwv5556 wrote
Oh, so you're saying that I should have bought it?
willsabelcourtney t1_iwv5ma1 wrote
...is that Kirsten Dunst?
AdventureSheepies t1_iwv6k8x wrote
I once went to a "Vermont Pancake House" in NJ. If you wanted real maple syrup, you had to pay extra. Blasphemy.
TheMobyDicks t1_iwv6uii wrote
Spiderman residuals aren't what they used to be.
IAintSkeeered t1_iwv72z0 wrote
Made vs Maid
daddymarsh t1_iwv7sq8 wrote
I don’t think it’s trying to claim either to be true. I’m not a scientist, but I don’t think you can have sugar free real maple syrup. And as someone else mentioned, they use Maid, note Made.
hunny_bun_24 t1_iwv81ma wrote
That is syrup and they aren’t being deceptive. It’s just a brand name
EmeraldMoose12 t1_iwv9agk wrote
And it’s just syrup. Not maple syrup.
Russian_Rocket23 t1_iwva3z0 wrote
There story is slightly off, according to this.
http://maplesyruphistory.com/2020/02/09/the-beginnings-of-the-vermont-maid-brand-of-blended-syrup/
ElectricMayham t1_iwva402 wrote
I'm glad there are others who could read.
wageslave2022 t1_iwvavmx wrote
New Jerseys finest Vermontish maplish syruppy syrup type stuff. Enjoy
skiitifyoucan t1_iwvblve wrote
honestly I have had this experience in VT, seems to have shifted over the years to using the real stuff by default.
The worst offense I've seen is fake crap put into a real maple syrup container and being served in a restaurant in VT...
Then there are the restaurants out of state calling the fake "maple syrup" ; they just don't know any better.
Upthespurs1882 t1_iwvcxol wrote
Dirsten Krunst. She lives in poultney I think
EagleRockVermont t1_iwvcyxs wrote
Something tells me there's no maid involved, either.
twowheels OP t1_iwvdjmr wrote
I know the difference. Note that I didn’t say made in my title… it’s not “Vermont”.
charliedontplaydat t1_iwvdowp wrote
Did you expect to find a sugar free syrup made from maple sap that is contains sugars? I am confused about the outrage here.
Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_iwvdub0 wrote
Thanks for the edification, the latter post is quite clearly better researched.
Romanovs_Penguin t1_iwvdzpl wrote
You could try it. But don't certainly do NOT ingest it. Keep out of the hands of children.
I think the AOT mixes it in with the road brine to clear icy roads.
CANiEATthatNow t1_iwve1au wrote
An abomination is what it is!
timberwolf0122 t1_iwve4ig wrote
I demand they atleast make sure the lady in the bottle is a vermont maid
Robb_da_dog t1_iwvelee wrote
Sorbitol sounds healthy for consumption
twowheels OP t1_iwvey7k wrote
From Wikipedia,
> Sorbitol may cause allergic reactions in some people.[5] Common side effects from use as a laxative are stomach cramps, vomiting, diarrhea or rectal bleeding.[5]
Yep, sounds like exactly what I want from my ‘syrup’!
billsatori t1_iwvf9jd wrote
The Vermont Maid is looking like a NJ native that decided to stick around after graduating UVM.
draggar t1_iwvfbwn wrote
Sugar free... :|
twowheels OP t1_iwvgdpd wrote
Yeah. It’s a shame what we’ve done to “food”. The real thing tastes better and is so much healthier — just eat it in moderation and exercise and you won’t have to worry about a few more calories in the real thing.
twowheels OP t1_iwvgnay wrote
It’s not syrup, it’s a bunch of artificial chemistry.
hunny_bun_24 t1_iwvgv4c wrote
There’s different types of syrups
Hillman314 t1_iwvh1pb wrote
It’s for people who don’t know about homonyms. Notice they don’t claim it’s maple syrup or that it is MADE in VT.
It’s literally labeled as syrup for Vermont maids. It’s for the Massholes who buy up Vermont housing as 2nd and 3rd homes to pour on their housekeepers.
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LaMelgoatBall t1_iwvi3mv wrote
None of my out of state friends ever realized what they were missing, sent my friend in Florida some for Christmas last year. Now he gives me money to ship him some, I hate fake syrup so much.
LaMelgoatBall t1_iwviju4 wrote
Real syrup (not this), fake syrup, fraudulent syrup.
random_vermonter t1_iwviku3 wrote
I know that eating at Denny's in the past, you could request Vermont maple syrup. Not sure if this is still the case. I refuse to use any syrup that isn't pure Vermont maple syrup!
WeddingUsed t1_iwvirpi wrote
It's just new jersey's subtle way of relocating their fifth
WeddingUsed t1_iwviwhg wrote
It looks more like BBQ sauce than anything else
Most_Expert_8080 t1_iwvkic9 wrote
People are really sensitive about maple syrup. They do not realize this is a product for people who are diabetic.
Most_Expert_8080 t1_iwvkkl1 wrote
Sorbitol is in all kinds of things. If you brushed your teeth today you had some.
GimmieJohnson t1_iwvla85 wrote
Be a real vermonter and buy the Fruity pebbles syrup.
twowheels OP t1_iwvlkak wrote
Yeah. That makes sense — glad that the option is available to you, but I won’t touch it. :)
KingKababa t1_iwvlti7 wrote
IT'S NOT EVEN MAID(R)!!!1!
tyguyS4 t1_iwvm7ht wrote
Can't blame you. Sometimes I cheat and use the real stuff.
chilicheeseclog t1_iwvmga8 wrote
And that lady's from Detroit
5XTEEM t1_iwvp75g wrote
But it is syrup, so it's not like your title is actually accurate.
YOurAreWr0ng t1_iwvpo2z wrote
To be fair it doesn’t say Vermont Made.
twowheels OP t1_iwvqkzf wrote
I didn't say that it was, I said it's not Vermont.
bobobeastie86 t1_iwvqwdy wrote
Phew, I'm good then.
twowheels OP t1_iwvrhq3 wrote
Dictionary definition of syrup:
> a thick sweet liquid made by dissolving sugar in boiling water, often used for preserving fruit.
...or...
> a thick sticky liquid derived from a sugar-rich plant, especially sugar cane, corn, and maple.
I see,
> Sorbitol, cellulose gum, 'natural' and artificial flavors (look it up, natural flavors are anything but), caramel color, sodium benzoate, potassium sorbate, Sucralose (artificial), phosphoric acid, acesulfame potassium, aspartame, and citric acid.
NONE of those are sugar (though some are distantly 'derived from' sugars), nor directly derived from a plant -- that's not syrup, it's a chemistry experiment -- it's time to recognize that we're killing ourselves with this garbage -- it's not syrup, and it's not food.
KindaPretentious t1_iwvrvzl wrote
Nah, it’s okay. They’re just using a name that’s impossible to trademark so that they can profit from the reputation of a community that they neither participate in, nor support. That’s just people.
Glass_Entertainer_10 t1_iwvtw05 wrote
The point is, that it's not from a maple tree. It's syrup, but not from Vermont or from a maple tree. So his title is correct.
Enough_Camel2650 t1_iwvvr7p wrote
What’s the point of this post?
twowheels OP t1_iwvvxzj wrote
Whatever me and the 108 people who upvoted it want it to be — you must be fun at parties.
listen_youse t1_iwvw421 wrote
If everybody who buys bogus-ass syrup started insisting on real maple syrup what would the price of the real thing go up to?
Enough_Camel2650 t1_iwvw4bo wrote
I’m not hating I’m just genuinely curious what the point of this was? I feel fairly confident everyone who’s grown up in Vermont knows this shit exists
twowheels OP t1_iwvw9f2 wrote
Dunno, but it would be good for the VT economy!
twowheels OP t1_iwvwjrn wrote
Sure — I even posted a link to the history (though somebody else posted an even more accurate and well researched history link) — it just caught my eye at the grocery store today — my wife usually does the shopping since she works fewer hours than I do, so I usually buy my syrup at the local general store or farm stands and don’t typically see this junk.
Enough_Camel2650 t1_iwvwsp6 wrote
Gotcha, yeah it’s interesting the amount of people that prefer corn syrup with maple extract over the real thing, but there’s obviously a market for it somehow
vociferousgirl t1_iwvxott wrote
Is this something that goes against Vermont's ten pages of Maple regulations. Can we take them down?
twowheels OP t1_iwvxufg wrote
Probably not because I don’t recall the word ‘maple’ being anywhere on the bottle.
FixatedOnYourBeauty t1_iwvy8pk wrote
Marketing wankery.
charliedontplaydat t1_iwvyt0i wrote
I think the laws are very clear and effective. I also know Reddit is where people go to get a reaction. I just feel like this isn’t at all even pretending to be maple or syrup or from vermont really as it says “maid”. Just a weird ass post.
polarbearrape t1_iwvzpz2 wrote
I thought VT had laws about using Vermont in a name if it's not from Vermont. Made vs maid shouldn't matter in that case. You can't label a business "Vermont" anything if it's not in VT.
polarbearrape t1_iww00uk wrote
I'm pretty sure Vermont has laws about naming a product Vermont if it's not actually from here
rochvegas5 t1_iww13qi wrote
Vermont MADE and Vermont MAID are two different things, and any maple syrup that isn't 100% maple syrup is sugar water
RelationshipBig2798 t1_iww1958 wrote
Liquid garbage
twowheels OP t1_iww1cun wrote
Not sure how many times I have to point out that I didn’t say anything about it being “made” here, I said it’s not Vermont. So many people jumping to the conclusion that I don’t know the difference.
rochvegas5 t1_iww24r2 wrote
How about one more time? For old times sake :-)
Most_Expert_8080 t1_iww2mfq wrote
They have to do their performative xenophobia and exceptionalism.
Daniboi1977 t1_iww7gnn wrote
That's why it's Vermont "Maid" and not "Made". She moved. and started making fake syrup.
Fromage_Damage t1_iww8wa5 wrote
The State tried to sue the company a while back and they weren't able to get it taken off the shelves.
PhineasSwann t1_iww8yly wrote
Vermont's ag department is actually pretty militant about policing the abuse of the term "Vermont" and "Maple." There was a case many years ago against Mcdonald's which tried to promote its oatmeal as having "maple flavor" when it didn't. As part of the settlement, anyone in Vermont who goes into a McDonald's can get real maple syrup to add to their oatmeal for free. http://archive.boston.com/business/articles/2011/01/20/vt_announces_maple_settlement_with_mcdonalds/
weathergleam t1_iww9mwf wrote
and that’s not the real Jersey either
getthetime t1_iww9w6r wrote
Fun fact: beneath the small park in front of the Vermont Maid Building on Pine Street (where Great Harvest is) there is an absolutely enormous holding tank for the fake syrup, that is still there to this day. Before they renovated the park about five or six years ago you could still see the outline of the top of the tank if you knew what to look for. They covered it with gravel now, unfortunately.
Inside Great Harvest is a tiny plaque commemorating Vermont Maid's history there, just to left of the front door. I think it's neat that fake syrup and Maltex hot cereal were manufactured across the street from each other for many decades.
cheesecurdbabybird t1_iwwbh7n wrote
she’s a maid in vermont
KingBubbaBouy1 t1_iwwg80z wrote
Yep. Garbage.
twowheels OP t1_iwwgiec wrote
That actually sounds interesting. :)
twowheels OP t1_iwwh61y wrote
This? https://ago.vermont.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Vermont-Origin-Rule-FAQ.pdf
More specifically: https://ago.vermont.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Rule-CP-120.pdf
> No person shall represent a company name that includes the word "Vermont" or any substantially similar term in close association with a food product that is not a Vermont product unless the representation is accompanied by the following clear and conspicuous disclosures in the manner described in this section or at the point of sale as described in CP 120.01(b)(ii): (a) If the company is not based in Vermont, then information sufficient to communicate that fact must be disclosed somewhere on the product. (b) If the product was not made in Vermont, then information sufficient to indicate the geographic area where the product was made must be disclosed on the front panel (such as "Made in Ohio," "Product of New England," or "Made in USA"). (c) If the product is one that, under the definition of "Vermont product," is required to have a primary ingredient that comes from Vermont, but in fact such ingredient comes from outside of Vermont, then information sufficient to indicate the geographic area where the ingredient comes from must be disclosed on the front panel (such as "Made from New England apples" or "Northeast blend syrup"). (d) Notwithstanding the above, the requirements of subsections (b) and (c) of this section are satisfied if either the product was made in Vermont or a primary ingredient comes from Vermont, provided that: there is a disclosure on the front panel that the product was made in Vermont, or that a primary ingredient comes from Vermont, as the case may be; and there is a disclosure, not necessarily on the front panel, that the product was made outside of Vermont, or that a primary ingredient comes from outside of Vermont, as the case may be.
It looks to me like they might actually be in violation since they have Vermont in the name, and no disclosure on the front panel.
mountainofclay t1_iwwhfm6 wrote
If anything Vermonters might be proud that the dirt bag corporation in Parsippany thought highly enough about the real stuff to try to steal the labeling. I’m pretty sure no one believes that crap is real maple syrup. And since one good turn deserves another I thought maybe Vermont could appropriate something only found in NJ but I couldn’t think of anything worthy.
Ciderinsider86 t1_iwwhiim wrote
And just who is this titular Maid, and what's her phone number, and is she single?
Rabble rabble rabble
hunny_bun_24 t1_iwwhrjj wrote
Outrageous_Budget_57 t1_iwwlupj wrote
It's POISON!!! EVERYTHING with High Fructose Corn Syrup is POISON!
twowheels OP t1_iwwm3eu wrote
I don’t see HFCS in there, but I do see many other nastier ingredients.
chaptertwovt t1_iwwrbyh wrote
This is also illegal. VT passed a law a few years back protecting it’s brand.
selecta79 t1_iwwuuds wrote
I’m impressed they even had it…haha
Total_drama_z t1_iwwv2yg wrote
Can we become our own republic again pls.
BtenaciousD t1_iwwvcin wrote
The Maid looks good - the syrup, not so much
EccentricNarwhal t1_iwwy7b1 wrote
It gets worse the longer you look at it
Ergotnometry t1_iwwyjcg wrote
Phone pole syrup.
hideous-boy t1_iwx6rk7 wrote
,,,,,sugar free,,,,,
waterford1955_2 t1_iwx72g9 wrote
I think they can't call it Vermont Maple Syrup. They can call it Vermont Maid Syrup all day long. I might be wrong though. It might be like Bourbon. It can't be called bourbon unless it comes from Kentucky.
twowheels OP t1_iwx7fcv wrote
Found this when looking up this curry:
vtddy t1_iwx8dpp wrote
This doesn't fall under that because it doesn't say pure Vermont maple syrup. They only say Vermont maid. Not made
Outrageous_Budget_57 t1_iwx9usq wrote
They changed the name to sucralose...
twowheels OP t1_iwxfa2d wrote
Sucralose is not HFCS, it’s a modified sugar molecule known as a chlorocarbon, or chlorinated hydrocarbon — yes, chlorine.
SemperFuu t1_iwxg4fd wrote
That’s not true about bourbon. For a whiskey to be considered Bourbon, its mash – the mixture of grains from which the product is distilled – must contain at least 51% corn. The rest of the mash is usually filled out with rye or wheat, and malted barley.
Location doesn’t matter. Japanese bourbon is good!
Loudergood t1_iwxgepw wrote
IHOP had to add it to the menu when they opened here...
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nlpnt t1_iwxjfhd wrote
You can still see the tank on earlier passes of Google Streetview.
nlpnt t1_iwxjmid wrote
FWIU the Vt Dept of Ag owns the trademark for "Vermont" on food products, and they do use it as a de facto Protected Designation of Origin.
Vermont Maid moved production out of state before that, and it exists under a grandfather clause.
nlpnt t1_iwxjq17 wrote
Grandfathered in. Production moved out of state prior to this law.
antiqueboi t1_iwxrtnn wrote
i feel like most people are so accustomed to the corn syrup maple syrup they would not like the smoky flavor of real maple syrup
tagit446 t1_iwxsgyj wrote
Looks like deceptive marketing at it's best!
I personally absolutely hate the taste of fake syrup and don't get how anyone likes the stuff but I'll drink a small cup of real Vermont maple syrup as soon as it comes out of the evaporator and through a filter. Love sipping it hot while making it. Gives me the warm fuzzies.
YellowZx5 t1_iwxu9zu wrote
I think in Vermont it can’t be called Maple Syrup but Vermont Maid or pancake syrup are still legal.
BlackOptx t1_iwxv608 wrote
Literally my favorite Vermont maple fact
chaptertwovt t1_iwxvmf7 wrote
I might be wrong but I don’t think you can even use Vermont in your name if not based here and/or 51% owned by a resident.
Abbot_of_Cucany t1_iwxxxcu wrote
That's because their menus nationwide used the word "maple", and in Vermont you can only make that claim if it's real. If they had said "pancake syrup" they could have continued to serve the fake stuff.
IHOP decided it was cheaper for them to serve real maple syrup than it would be to print two different menus, one for Vermont and the other for the rest of the US.
Christopher_LX t1_iwy3jv1 wrote
Not a significant source of sat. fat, trans fat, or maple syrup.
WizendOldMan t1_iwy4vaw wrote
LOL
Few-Butterfly1098 t1_iwy5ljz wrote
Eat until you’re full and eat all natural minimally processed food with a healthy lifestyle, you don’t become overweight it’ll naturally balance itself and you won’t overeat because you get the nutrients you need. Modern food is poisoning people and depriving them of nutrients while still eating large amounts of food
WhatTheCluck802 t1_iwyazmy wrote
Pancakes and waffles are better plain, than with this junk. Or add some berries to the top if you need something sweet.
meanwhileinvermont t1_iwyonuk wrote
wait until you hear the truth about Poland Spring water
vtddy t1_iwyqgux wrote
Yes you can because it's not implying that it was made in Vermont
whys0brave t1_iwyvlc4 wrote
Ew gross
frogman655321 t1_iwyxoie wrote
Hate to break it to you, but that’s also not a real maid…
802GreenMtnBoy t1_iwz08rr wrote
There's a breakfast restaurant in Randolph (I think) that makes you pay extra for the fake stuff. 👍
AdventureSheepies t1_iwz0smm wrote
That’s excellent.
ScarletRead t1_iwz3jbn wrote
Lmao I love this state
ScarletRead t1_iwz4ds7 wrote
She hasn’t shown her face here for years. We know.
molyholycannoli t1_iwz5ie7 wrote
Someone needs to get sued.
PollutedRiver t1_iwzauov wrote
Shhhh don't tell them it's fake or they'll drive up for the real thing.
Dseltzer1212 t1_iwzhzqg wrote
It’s been this way for 15 years
KITTYONFYRE t1_iwzi9cs wrote
> it's time to recognize that we're killing ourselves with this garbage -- it's not syrup, and it's not food.
fucking lol. most artificial sweeteners are just not digested at all. they do nothing in your body. you eat them, you excrete 100% of them. they're far better for you than sugar, which is one of the biggest killers in the US (heart disease, obesity - not directly sugar's fault but a highly contributing factor).
you're using the naturalistic fallacy
Mother_Willow1095 t1_iwzil2q wrote
15 ingredients not including the “natural and artificial flavors”
MikeDPhilly t1_iwzs63p wrote
I think it's hgh fructose corn syrup with synthesized maple flavor. I grabbed something likr this once by mistake and it was appalling.
twowheels OP t1_ix0jh46 wrote
It's actually far worse than that -- look at those ingredients -- at least HFCS comes from a plant, this stuff comes from a lab.
MikeDPhilly t1_ix120t5 wrote
I mean, why take something that is already bad, and make it worse? I eventually had to give that syrup away to a neighbor because I couldn't tolerate it.
twowheels OP t1_ix1dvm9 wrote
Wow, some neighbor — geez, do you hate them?
MikeDPhilly t1_ix1mh93 wrote
Haha! Good one. No, I posted to our local Buy Nothing Group on FB and my neighbor picked it up. No accounting for taste, it seems.
twowheels OP t1_iwv30yr wrote
https://www.mychamplainvalley.com/news/vt-history/this-place-in-history-vermont-maid-syrup/