Mt. Vernon Triangle Is the Best Neighborhood

Submitted by NoxDust t3_zz6d0d in washingtondc

I live in NOVA but I am looking to move to DC itself, and I've determined that Mt. Vernon Triangle is the best area for me.

  1. It is close to both a Walmart and Safeway. Putting groceries stores on Google maps, is DC like a food desert?? Grocery stores are extremely far and between in this city.
  2. It is close to both the Gallery Pl. Metro, thus giving access to the green/yellow lines, and Judiciary Sq. Metro, giving access to red line. And you're only 1-2 stops away from blue/orange/silver to transfer. Also close to Union Station.
  3. It's got all the stores and restaurants you need, plus all the stores and restaurants from nearby neighborhoods Chinatown and Penn Quarter.
  4. Straight 20 min walk south and you're at the Mall and museums.
  5. 20 min walk up Mass Ave. and you're in Logan Circle (I club there).
  6. This is applicable only to me really but it's a reasonable walk from where I work so that's great.

What are your thoughts? What am I missing? What are the downsides?

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question_sunshine t1_j29rvdx wrote

Do you mean the WalMart on H? You should rethink listing that as a perk until you've visited it.

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Playful-Translator49 t1_j2abucl wrote

Seriously lol that Walmart is hot garbage.

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DCGinkgo t1_j2c4mdl wrote

Have never been to that Walmart but won't try it based on the relentless negativity about it...

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mzdameaner t1_j2bhtq9 wrote

That Walmart is what I classify as chaotic evil compared to the neutral evil of the Columbia heights target.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2a67ja wrote

I think people are generally familiar with the WalMart shopping experience, be it in DC or in the burbs.

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ohtakashawa t1_j2ac13g wrote

I promise you that the H St Walmart is worse than the burbs. They are not comparable beyond the name on the door.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2ac53l wrote

What’s the difference. Go into detail

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MrMundus t1_j2b0wk2 wrote

It’s filthy. There’s no stuff. You basically need to go through security to go in and out. There are people on drugs standing out front.

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ohtakashawa t1_j2acdkp wrote

Worse stock. Worse staff. Worse environment generally. It’s not a good store, full stop.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2acg6f wrote

What’s wrong with the staff

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ohtakashawa t1_j2ackel wrote

I have never found useful help there, when there’s help to be found at all.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2aco2l wrote

How much help do you need when you’re in WalMart

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ohtakashawa t1_j2ad3kv wrote

Well when the shelves aren’t stocked or you’re trying to pick up an online order or return something or there’s a problem with the checkout, you need help. Do you work at the H Street Walmart, do you have some personal interest in arguing whether or not it sucks? Or just bored?

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2ade4c wrote

It's a common trope on here to talk shit about any chain store in the District staffed by Black Washingtonians, which you seem very comfortable parroting.

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Professional-Tailor2 t1_j2ajdzj wrote

I don't get it. You asked them what's wrong with the store, they gave you a valid reason stating that the store doesn't stay stocked and the staff is unhelpful and you assume it's a issue about race? So anytime a store or business is lacking and a person notices, it's a racism issue right? How about the store just fucking sucks.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2ajriq wrote

You new here? These complaints could be about literally any Walmart.

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celj1234 t1_j2ajlp8 wrote

I’m black. That store sucks. This isn’t really debatable.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2awuwq wrote

Are you under the mistaken impression that WalMarts elsewhere provide a superior customer experience? It’s WalMart

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celj1234 t1_j2axw1k wrote

I’ve been to other Walmart. They are better. That one sucks. Why are you defending this Walmart so hard homie? Shit weirdo behavior.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2b3p2e wrote

I work nearby, have been many times, and the gentrifier hysteria is ridiculous. I think it’s far weirder to pretend that this one WalMart is somehow unusable or horrible for someone who lives in the neighborhood. WalMart is what it is

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celj1234 t1_j2b54dx wrote

Yeah it sucks. Glad we agree. Take care homie. 🙌🏾

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2b5hyw wrote

I’m sure the hysterical gentrifiers appreciate having you in their corner

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celj1234 t1_j2bbue6 wrote

I really don’t give a fuck about them when stating my personal opinion kiddo.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2bcom6 wrote

Sure, whatever. I’m sure they appreciate it though.

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jaykell6ix t1_j2afs31 wrote

That WalMart is legitimately the worst shopping experience I’ve ever had and the staff is terrible. Stop making it a race thing that place sucks.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2afwgt wrote

Oh my god. What happened

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jaykell6ix t1_j2aiq46 wrote

I shopped there, it’s terrible

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2aislc wrote

Will you ever recover

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jaykell6ix t1_j2ajpsy wrote

Only one of us is upset and you’re the one on the internet suggesting people who don’t like a Walmart are racist. I’m worried whether or not you’re gonna make it to be honest.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2ajwn2 wrote

Dunno you seem pretty upset about this traumatizing shopping experience, I’m chill about shopping there

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jaykell6ix t1_j2asbd7 wrote

You’re the worst type of person

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2aw3v8 wrote

bringing up this trauma must be difficult for you but I promise, you will shop at WalMart again. I'll see you there, I will probably be buying some batteries or something like the hundreds of normal people who shop there without incident every day

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jaykell6ix t1_j2aywa2 wrote

ok snowflake

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2az63u wrote

Buddy I regularly walk into the store that traumatized you like it’s nothing

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jaykell6ix t1_j2azvtq wrote

And yet, you can’t read a complaint about a Walmart without being offended. Must be tough to be in your shoes.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2b00rd wrote

yes, I always have time to call bullshit on gentrifier hysteria

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jaykell6ix t1_j2b2ba9 wrote

I’m sure the fine people of H St WalMart are super glad to have a savior like you

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dynospectrum7 t1_j2bckn3 wrote

This is not something you describe. But if I had to, id say it’s the opposite of an orgasm.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2bd9bc wrote

You achieve orgasm in superior Walmart locations?

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HeavyPetter t1_j2c3n3m wrote

This the second thread I've seen with DC subredditors slamming that Walmart. I'm with you. I go there and never been bothered by the experience. I don't live close and go out of my way to go there whenever I'm remotely close. I like the store and would consider proximity to the store as a plus. I wish I lived closer and could go more often.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2c6xz4 wrote

It was the same narrative around the Columbia Heights Target when it opened. Every store takes some time to figure out staffing and inventory, but you’d see comments section on Prince of Petworth implying that shopping there was like surviving a riot, which of course was absurd. A lot of it is barely coded racism.

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gator_fl t1_j29qdix wrote

Nice and seems super convenient.

Downside is that there are virtually no rowhomes or single family homes and is very much a transient community. You may like apartment/condo canyons, but some like quieter streets, back and front yards with sunshine, gardens and not paper thin condo/apt walls.

No real hardware/department stores (Walmart is different).

Also no trees or real parks....just small parks without trees, fountains, etc. Got a dog? Good luck with those two small and nasty dog parks.

Also a neighborhood with high traffic and those drivers ain't slowing down.

Restaurants and bars there are expensive (Hello $12 cupcake and plain 'ole coffee at Baked and Wired) most are not full-scale restaurants and lack the character of a neighborhood restaurant. Where are the regulars , the neighborhood vibe (Even Chinatown, Penn Quarter lacks that)? Most importantly, liquor in a ketchup dispenser a la Dan's Cafe)?

Greet neighborhood, but essentially a pop-up neighborhood and the maybe 2 thousand more units coming next year gonna make things more dense. And if you have 3 kids...where you gonna live?

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dangubiti t1_j29vwcj wrote

The rowhomes directly north of it are nice if you want a neighborhood feel while still getting the amenities.

I’m still upset that City Vista priced out the hardware store that used to be there though.

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gator_fl t1_j2a72nj wrote

True, but that is not Mount Vernon Triangle.

Damn landlords jacking rentals up 2x or more.

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violet-shift t1_j2bdy5b wrote

> I’m still upset that City Vista priced out the hardware store that used to be there though.

I know! It's been an empty storefront ever since, too. (It was very briefly some sort of golf place, but unsurprisingly that folded almost instantly.)

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Emmy5018 t1_j29rpb5 wrote

Agreed. I love mvt but it does feel pretty transient and you don’t get as much of a neighborhood vibe as other neighborhoods. But as you pointed out, you can be in a your choice of different neighborhood within minutes.

Sometimes there’s road closures and traffic from events at the convention center, but I have lived here for a while and the African leaders conference was the only real inconvenience and it wasn’t that bad.

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gator_fl t1_j29ufc1 wrote

Yes, true. But all those streets have heavy traffic and getting worse.To be fair, they are mostly major thoroughfares, but drivers don't slow down and pedestrians and bikers, even with bike lanes, can't cross streets without worry.

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celj1234 t1_j2a3e7t wrote

3 kids in the city sounds expensive pretty much anywhere you try to live.

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gator_fl t1_j2a6t0r wrote

True. But OP never mentioned price.

What I mean is that it's pretty much built for singles or couples w/o kids or maybe one kid. No rowhomes or SFH where you can have roommates, build equity until you can afford to have kids.

Speaking of price. I'm guessing that the price per sq ft is much higher there in all units. Met young professionals getting support from mom and dad to live in expensive units for great convenience, amenities, etc.

Also the noise....man, I love a raging party but not where I live (NIMBY ha ja).

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celj1234 t1_j2a7o6f wrote

The downtown areas of most major cities aren’t built for people with kids unless you’re bringing in a big time paycheck. I don’t blame MVT developers not caring about families at all.

There are number of row homes on the other side of of NY Ave. Idk where the exact cut off of MVT is.

Agreed on the noise. Don’t move here is some weekend partying by neighbors bothers you.

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gator_fl t1_j2ae3r4 wrote

Those rowhomes north of NY Ave are not MVT.

OP posted about what they liked and asked for feedback. So not really an urban design discussion.

But if you want to discuss that...DC Planning got played by the real estate developers who built up MVT. Most of them from influential property owners/developers over generations who got their way and built specifically for maximizing revenue. How? cough Campaign finance cough planting their former employees into MVT BID cough greasing government players, etc.

Almost all of the apts/condos were supposed to be built not just for singles or DINKs. But developers got their way to make most bang for their bucks (it is America, big businesses get their wish).

It is what it is. Though DC loves getting resident tax/etc. revenues, they know density challenges a city in the long run).

You're right about.knowing not to move to noisey areas. Leasing agents love to give tours during quiet times for a reason.

Not hating on MVT. But DC government knows mistakes were made and notice new massive developments are being buit differently...not just for short term profits and tax revenues.

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GenericReditAccount t1_j2adfrx wrote

This was our impression when we were buying a few years ago. I liked a condo we found in MVT, so we did a pro/con list for the area. Lack of greenery, highways for local roads, and no where peaceful to stroll, were all big strikes against. I don’t know about now, but at the time, lots of people were talking about MVT becoming a young family neighborhood. I just didn’t see it.

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gator_fl t1_j2afeoo wrote

Exactly! Just posted a few minutes ago what DC Planning and urban design folks know- Developers essentially got their way and built maximum profit condos/apts without thought to amenities. Even the BID was stacked with former real estate developers.

DC government didn't plan well and now they are trying to build new developments with long term objectives in mind.

Definitely not a family neighborhood. Can't even think of one playground or nice park to take a kid or dog or just have a picnic. Manhattan has better parks than MVT.

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bettymh t1_j29tpee wrote

I lived by that Safeway for 4 years in one of those buildings. While all what you said is somewhat true, I got bored of it after a while because:

1- It's not a real neighborhood. Everything feels artificial after a while. 2- Restaurants are expensive and mediocre. Also always full. 3- No quiet time. Those condo like apartments turn into frat houses on weekends. It's like living in a dorm. 4- We had a rooftop pool and amenities in our building. They're always booked, full and loud. People bring all of their friends who don't live in those buildings and throw parties, and residents just can't enjoy what they're paying for. 5- Our building charged 250 a month to park your car in the garage. 6- Not a huge fan of Chinatown except food delivery. Lots of crazies walking around.

Good things: 1- Walking to the mall whenever I needed an escape was the best. 2- Red line (use Judiciary square stop) 3- Cute dogs 4- 20 min walking distance to my work.

The reason why we left is that the building management increased the rent 600 dollars a month on August, and at that point, it wasn't worth it. Now, with the same rent, I live in a row house with a backyard in a real neighborhood.

I think Mt Vernon is great if you're new to the city and a young professional who just started his/her career. Once that is over, there's no value in that area.

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alsoherefortheporn t1_j2agvww wrote

Moved to MVT in 2017, been here ever since. Moved apartments once but just down the street. Honestly the neighborhood today is the best it’s been since we’ve lived here.

  1. that Safeway is mediocre at best lol. Produce is marginal. Understaffed, so huge lines at 5pm when everyone is off work. It’s fine in a pinch, but we usually trek to Whole Paycheck or Trader Joe’s.

  2. metro is convenient enough. I used to walk to Gallery Pl, but recently I’ve started going to Judiciary Sq. I hardly ever walk to Convention Center (for similar reasons why I don’t frequent Gallery Pl).

  3. Bar Chinois, D’leña (and the tequila bar downstairs), Bar Taco, Melange, Prost, etc are all great. We’re on a first name basis with the folks at A Baked Joint. It’s a good little block of restaurants.

  4. that walk to the mall is longer than you think, but not impossible.

  5. see #4

DOWNSIDES: There’s very little street parking, especially since they installed the protected bike lanes (which was great! Don’t get me wrong). Also since the bike lanes, K St is now 2 lanes, and nights and weekends there are always Uber drivers, FedEx/Amazon/UPS always blocking the road to pickup/drop off. If they’re not blocking the road they’re blocking the bike lane. If they’re not blocking the bike lane they’re parked on my alley blocking the entrance to my building (if you do this, fuck you).

Also yeah the rent is going up, but it’s going up everywhere. And the restaurants aren’t cheap. But this isn’t a cheap city. Doesn’t really bother me too much. Overall we’ve stayed because it’s convenient to work, we like the direction the neighborhood is going, we like our neighbors, and our apartment has an awesome view lol.

Let me know you want any specific recs! Would be happy to discuss.

EDIT: also, the dog situation someone else mentioned is accurate. Limited available places for dogs, especially bigger ones. That doesn’t stop anyone it seems, my building is full of dogs big and small.

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violet-shift t1_j2behm5 wrote

> that Safeway is mediocre at best lol. Produce is marginal. Understaffed, so huge lines at 5pm when everyone is off work. It’s fine in a pinch, but we usually trek to Whole Paycheck or Trader Joe’s.

I really can't stress enough just how bad that Safeway is when it comes to fresh produce/meat. I live within a 5 minute walk of it and still often opt for the giant that's like 15 min away. (Or take the metro to Whole Foods in Shaw.)

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the_eso t1_j29r2ty wrote

Used to live on the other side of the convention center, which I loved. I always found it a bit grim over on the east side of the convention center - NY Ave is a drag to walk along there since it's basically a 395 extension at that point still, lots of parking lots, the highway itself, etc. The Walmart is a shitshow and I don't really care for Chinatown lately, so those aren't really pros in my book. I enjoyed the vibe of extreme southern Shaw more, with a mix of building types, less traffic, more interesting food and drink.

Mt Vernon Triangle has definitely filled out lately though, and I agree the location within the city is pretty great.

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SuperBethesda t1_j29rqpg wrote

I like Cleveland Park. Nice neighborhood with some restaurants, groceries, Metro access, and close to Rock Creek Park, which is the best park ever.

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pomegranatecloud t1_j29rpo7 wrote

Personally, I do not like that area. It’s basically all apartments with a little bit of commercial space. I find it pretty soulless. Being close-ish to Chinatown or Metro Center isn’t at all positive at least for me. I find it’s an inconvenient area. I’d much rather live in Shaw or Logan Circle rather than being a 20 minute walk from the places I actually want to go to. Have you ever been near that Walmart? If you’re listing it as a perk lmao

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35chambers t1_j29wywn wrote

logan circle has more personality but it’s definitely less convenient, it has no metro stop

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Appropriate-Ad-4148 t1_j2a5mcm wrote

Lived there for years and moved 7 blocks away for better prices.

A few comments:

  • For people without cars who are walking or biking to other parts of D.C., who work downtown, the location can't be beat. Penn Quarter or Logan would have been our second most convenient choices, but at the time they were more expensive, and Penn Quarter has no grocery store. You aren't isolated on the East side of town or the West Side, you can walk to Adams Morgan or Eastern Market, etc.
  • MVT businesses are great, but unfortunately the nearby downtown businesses have been declining over the last 5 years heavily. We had a Barnes and Noble and Bed Bath and Beyond, boutique shops on F and E St's, and A LOT more bars and fast casual style restaurants in say 2015-2018.
  • MVT is full of transient people compared to most other neighborhoods because it's so close to downtown, which can be good or bad. We met SO many good people there, but relatively there are a lot of subsidized young people and transient people who love to complain and can't wait to get back to their family elsewhere. Contrast that with say Columbia Heights or H St, and you can feel the difference in demographcis.
  • The Safeway is average and you are far from other options if you walk. I really prefer the Whole Foods and Trader Joes combo I have now.
  • On K St in MVT, the Metro isn't that close. It's ONLY a 5-10 minute walk sure, but I live a block/stone's throw from the metro now so it's all relative.
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DCGinkgo t1_j2c5cqf wrote

Can't speak to MVT but proximity to Gallery Place would not be a plus anymore. Metro station is problematic. Once BB&B left, I have pretty much stopped going there. Once in a while to a restaurants, but but post COVID restos have been meh (for well-discussed reasons) across the board even the places I loved.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j2a6aza wrote

Sounds like a good fit for you. Good luck with the move

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NOOBEv14 t1_j29qw6g wrote

  1. It’s barely a neighborhood. It’s like a block of apartment buildings and a Safeway.
  2. absolutely no parking.
  3. A 20 minute walk from the mall is a hike imo. Like, I want to live in a neighborhood because of the neighborhood’s amenities, not because there are cool things a mile away.
  4. related to the above, there’s no convenient food.
  5. There are no convenient bars/no night life of any sort.
  6. Basically you’re living there so you can walk to Chinatown. I’d rather just live in Chinatown if that’s going to be where I spend most of my time….but I’d rather visit Chinatown, personally, and so would rather live in a neighborhood that actually has things.
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celj1234 t1_j2a47xz wrote

  1. This just isn’t true

  2. There is street parking. A parking lot, and garages in the area.

  3. That walk to the mall is great.

  4. There are so many food spots right in MVT. Hell there are 4 spots you can get tacos in a 2 block radius

  5. Chinios, Ciel, CloakRoom, and over under all stay open till 2am/3am

  6. MVT is a much more desirable place to live then Chinatown at this point. What are you even talking about?

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demize1234 t1_j2ay78z wrote

This. Original comment is dumb.

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celj1234 t1_j2bbz8m wrote

They sound like someone that hadn’t been in MVT in 8 years

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NOOBEv14 t1_j2bql2e wrote

Been about a week

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celj1234 t1_j2bvfxw wrote

No chance.

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NOOBEv14 t1_j2c45l5 wrote

When people who don’t agree with you start downvoting statements of fact, that’s when you know you’re arguing about what you want to be true, not what’s actually true.

But in fairness it has actually been nine days.

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celj1234 t1_j2c4dxl wrote

I already wrote out why your original 6 points were clueless nonsense

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demize1234 t1_j29xw53 wrote

lmfao, so it can’t be a neighborhood because it’s mostly apartments? also lmao at pretending there’s nothing but a Safeway. MVT is amazing.

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brock_h t1_j2brx31 wrote

20 min walk to the mall is nothing. The alternative is what? Living directly on the mall? That'd be a nightmare. There's nothing there as far as living amenities.

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poignantfallacy t1_j2a4tpx wrote

I have lived in the area for three years and find it extremely convenient for work and nightlife

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camelkami t1_j2awkn5 wrote

Is… is this sarcasm?

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swampoodler t1_j2axzx4 wrote

Dude willing to walk 20 minutes for a club but says that grocery stores are few and far between.

Sus.

There’s like four major stores within walking distance of me. Also pro tip that Walmart is wild. I’ve gone once and it was enough.

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Diffine_nightly t1_j2a269j wrote

Definitely very underrated. It's a top tier spot for people who like to go out and visit a lot of diff neighborhoods and events, I always recommend this area to people moving to DC, I like kt a tad better than Logan Circle because it's more chill

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ohoneup t1_j2azm85 wrote

Debatable

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veloharris t1_j29wxu3 wrote

There are plenty of areas with lots of grocery store options. For instance just a little north of Mt Vernon, Shaw has easy access to Whole Foods, Giant, and Trader Joe's. Since you're in NoVA I'd suggest spending a weekend in a few of the neighborhoods you're considering. A spreadsheet of wants and amenities is only going to tell you so much. Also don't discount how much you're going to walk. Most people I know don't use the metro except for work or going to events etc. It's very common to be able to walk to all the things you need on a day to day basis.

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mmarkDC t1_j2a8o8x wrote

Some parts of DC are short on grocery stores, but I agree there are a lot in general. Depending on what you count as a grocery store (do smaller stores like Streets Market count?), I think there might be 10 within a mile of Adams Morgan. Kind of nuts how many options there are.

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LearnHowTwoSpell t1_j2ac5kf wrote

I just moved from this area to Capitol Hill/Eastern Market area.

All of your points are good! I liked the area but since I’m here in DC to stay this time, I wanted to try out a different area with more roots, homes, etc. My apt was also not in a great spot for accessing trader joes, which is where I shop.

On the point of “roots” from above, for what it’s worth, Mt. Vernon Triangle SEEMED (so subjective) to have more transience than usual. Lots of coming and going, law students, surface level relationships, headphones, etc. I know coming and moving is the norm for DC — but this area in particular seems have more transience than previous neighborhoods I’ve lived in (Dupont, AdMo and now Capitol/Eastern Market). I say this because I do value people and community and this area seemed a bit more difficult to break into that. Likely because it’s all newish apartments, haha.

Nevertheless, this is my second time living in DC — and this time for a bit longer. So I wanted a more neighborly-friendly vibe, hence the move. I may regret it though because I (25M) just traded a decently accessible night life for a more lowkey vibe.

All that to say… good choice, haha, but just something to consider. Definitely not a deal breaker.

Edit: Also, if you move into a big complex… try to get a pool, gym, rooftop, etc. It costs you a fortune but honestly it’s such a great perk and can save you lots of money going out because you’ll find out there’s likely something going on on your roof. Also, much easier to entertain guests when you have rented spaces, fire pits, pools, and bars nearby. Super easy.

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Evaderofdoom t1_j2at195 wrote

You might want to expand your search to cap hill and H st. They get you most if not all those things but more of neighborhood feels. Lots of great areas in DC and most of it is walkable

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OldMarket3194 t1_j2c2m2o wrote

Agreed on all points. Love it here in MVT. I would also add that the street team and the CID (is that what it’s called) keeps the neighborhood spotless and organizes nice community events (tunes in the triangle, Halloween party, etc).

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35chambers t1_j29xh43 wrote

agree with the commenters that MVT is a bit soulless BUT it’s probably the most central residential area in the entire city, its access via metro to downtown attractions and to each of the other neighborhoods is pretty unmatched

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resdivinae t1_j2a0j62 wrote

I lived there for a month when my apartment in Parkview flooded. It was a nice area and I liked the proximity to the Metro, but there aren't a lot of "third places" there (places to hang out that aren't work or home). There are a few restaurants, but from what I remember no bars, lounges, cafes, or even shady parks. If you want to do anything or hang out somewhere, you have to leave the neighborhood.

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celj1234 t1_j2a4nge wrote

A number of new restaurants have come

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Troy_McClure93 t1_j2blxt1 wrote

Didn’t read anything past the Walmart comment. I am not squeamish when it comes to stores in the city. I get it, part of living in a city. I went there once and I will up and drive to Richmond for groceries and supplies before I return.

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Rscaroll t1_j2ch0ip wrote

That walmart was great when it first opened. They had registers open, custometr service, minimal harassment upon exiting the store, they had express lanes opened (the counter behind the regular registers, accessed to the far right register), they had a hot lunch counter, they had ready to eat sandwiches and salads, they had an awesome pharmacist who went out of her way to find huge savings on some Rxs that my insurance wanted me to pay a fortune ($300+) for. And the parking lot was free and mostly empty. It was a great walmart. 10 out of 10. even better maybe.

These days If i need a product thats a clear wal mart purchase (Like a car battery or a prepaid phone ) I drive to landover hills maryland because that store is tolerable. (and next to a royal farms chicken). I dont go to the h st wal mart any more.

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Sufficient-Cell-8813 t1_j2cjqqk wrote

Ya that is not a nice neighborhood. If you value any green space, safety, general cleanliness, etc., don't move there. Have you been to DC in person before? Realize that the city is very street-by-street in terms of livability. You need to look at any street you are considering in person, preferably during the day and night.

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Low_Pattern3445 t1_j2e01l2 wrote

Just don’t live at a Meridian property. They’re awful

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WontStopAtSigns t1_j29w8jk wrote

I think it's a fine area. I liked spending time there.

I could ride my bike anywhere in 30 minutes from there.

The crowd was younger. There wasn't anything great about it either. That Walmart is nightmarish and I avoid it anyway I can.

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tiakeuta t1_j29ybsp wrote

  1. Proximity to Wal Mart
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celj1234 t1_j2a39c5 wrote

I love it here. MVT!

2 new big apt buildings going up soon. This area will just continue to grow

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Macrophage87 t1_j2ageqv wrote

I live in NoMa, and there are 5 grocery stores within a 10-minute bike ride. Most of the near part of NE isn't a food desert.

That place looks nice, though.

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Less_Wrong_ t1_j2fii2c wrote

Lol….be my guest, OP. All of downtown kinda sucks to live in

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Trash_Scientist t1_j29sy1p wrote

It’s close to Blagden so that’s cool. But it’s also a neighborhood that’s super close to a metro stop (Mount Vernon), so you can just go visit it. I do for Ghostburger. Every DC neighborhood has groceries. I’m 5 minutes from a Harris Teeter and a Safeway in AdMo.

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foreverurgirl t1_j2b2ynd wrote

Check eckington and noma near union market around tanner park. There are a ton of great restaurants and the Trader Joe’s at union market can’t be beat. There are a ton of new buildings- ask them for rent specials.

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2timeBiscuits t1_j2cg0q3 wrote

There is no good neighborhood in VA

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DCJoe1970 t1_j2b5t5o wrote

I would choose Tenleytown or Cleveland Park. You have a Whole Foods and a bunch of nice restaurants.

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