From reporter Susannah Sudborough:

Gov. Charlie Baker is asking the Legislature for $139 million to fund his plan to deal with the recent influx of migrants to Massachusetts and their impact on the state’s shelter system.

Baker filed the bill Friday, saying that the funding would expand the state’s emergency shelter capacity and improve services provided to the migrants through the shelter system.

“Massachusetts’ emergency shelter system provides support for thousands of families each year, but a recent uptick in new migrant arrivals, coupled with a strained housing market have led to a need for greater capacity across the system,” Baker said in the release.

“These expanded resources will help us quickly and effectively address this humanitarian crisis, especially as we enter the winter months.”

What’s in the bill

The bill has three major funding allocations.

The first includes $73 million to expand the overall capacity of the shelter system. Baker said this money will fund the creation of more than 1,300 additional temporary shelter units.

Secondly, the bill includes $20 million to establish and maintain a temporary central intake center. At the center, families will receive timely case management services and complete intake assessments during their first few days in the shelter system, Baker said.

The third part of the bill allocates $37 million for costs associated with placing new students in local schools through the end of FY24.
Read more: https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2022/11/22/charlie-baker-migrant-crisis-bill-devens-shelter/

Good to see them not repeating the mistakes they made in West Springfield.

Can't wait to see the food scene in MA in 10-20 years. These immigrants are going to bring the world's cuisine to MA. Not on the same scale as NYC but similar.

I'm already seeing the plethora of Italian restaurants and steakhouses slowly close and turn into something more interesting in my area.

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RIP to the Fung Wah Bus. Helmets not required, but strongly encouraged.

The food and music is gonna be fantastic!

How is there homeless on every freaking corner of every intersection in mass but we are allocating all this money for people that aren’t even from here?

This is utterly ridiculous. We aren’t the saviors of the world. Let’s help our neighbors before we start just throwing money into the ether and seeing what sticks.

Taco trucks on every corner!

Sounds like a good time!

And you know what would help homeless?

By making housing cheaper by getting rid of all the NIMBY zoning restrictions, and letting more housing actually be built.

And then of course, conservatives will whine about socialism.

Rent starting at $1,500 for a studio... new mortgages averaging nearly $3k a month in Massachusetts... and outdated, privileged zoning laws.

And those people at the intersections, without homes... are your neighbors.

I agree with your idea but I think it’s more than conservatives that are to blame for the zoning issues we see. Most zoning laws are set at the town level and some of the towns with the worst zoning laws are incredibly wealthy yet vote blue for major elections.

Sorry you’re getting downvoted. I have a brother who is homeless in boston for many years. He now has an advocate helping him apply everywhere for over a year. He’s mentally unable to handle a shelter. I’m unable to help due to being on assistance myself and other health issues. He has lived in mass his entire 63 years. Until one has experienced this with a loved one, don’t be so quick to judge this stance. He and I both feel the same and, didn’t use to.

Well maybe but I doubt that will solve it. And I’m hardly conservative so bring on the socialism

Absolutely yes they are.

Absolutely this. I’m sorry for your struggles and your brother as well. Unfortunately, since we love to jump on the “next big thing” without solving current issues, I don’t expect this to change.

And I’m hardly a conservative…though I’m sure I’ll get lumped into a group for not going “all-in” to every feel good stupid idea

Neither am I, not by a long shot. But he worked and paid both mass and us taxes for decades before he fell on such hard times. It’s not right.

My comment about conservatives had more to do with conservatives always being like “why are we spending all this money on (thing I don’t like)?! Why don’t we take care of the homeless?!”… but then when someone actually suggests spending money to help homeless, conservatives whine about “socialism”.

I was a homeless heroin addict in Boston for nearly a decade I completely get it trust me. I feel for both of you. Sincerely.

I didn’t say solve… but having cheaper housing across the board will help.

And you get housing cheaper by increasing supply.

And you do that by getting rid of a lot of the nimby bullshit.

Certainly doesn’t help anything I’m in agreement

These are all people. We can work on more than one problem at a time.

Why not turn these shelters in taquerias and everyone wins? Jobs, housing, revenue. Dude! Taco trucks on every corner, indeed!!

For him,, it began with trauma, which we share, and mental illness, then drugs. He’s not on drugs anymore. I’m glad you made it out. These Down voters, maybe they’ve never had these experiences. Also, it’s just easier to help people from a different culture. It’s less complicated and doesn’t demand examination of our fake meritocracy nor question one’s own good fortune.

Huh?

You hit the nail on the head exactly. It’s easier, ultimately. And that’s why it’s preferred. Because they don’t have to get to close or look to deep.

Have a happy thanksgiving. I’m grateful for this exchange.

People from Massachusetts are already struggling with high rents and outrageous mortgage rates. How about we help our own first?

The emergency shelter system is not exclusively for people that aren't from here - it is for the people on the street corner too.

Nah never. Our own already vote here, this is to bring in new voters

I miss Fung Wah

Right--no need to view the world in such a zero sum "I win-you lose" kind of way. We can care about both issues/groups of people at the same time.

ah yes, the "fuck these people, me first" approach!

you sound like a real humanitarian!

What you don't seem to understand, is that these people are exactly the same as us, just from somewhere else, they're humans and they're here. Did you even bother to fucking read what he's proposing? This isn't a help the migrants only plan, it's expanding the state's capacity to handle anyone in need of housing.

Can you share a brief version of the mistakes in WS?

Zoning laws are set by towns and cities mostly… and most of them around here vote blue.

But continue.

I don’t think we need a “this or that” approach here. Every time the government proposes to do something to fix a problem, people tend to jump to “well what about this other thing!”

In this bill, Baker is proposing some measures to help with this immediate need for the sudden influx of migrants. Doing nothing would put more strain on our already stressed system. But that doesn’t mean we can’t ALSO do more for the homeless, right? Just because the government is trying to address one problem, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t ALSO push them to solve others.

I love living in a state where they don't just ignore this happening and complain about the consequences like "but I tried nothing!" Whether it actually works out is another story, but at least they have somewhat of a plan.

My comment about conservatives had more to do with conservatives always being like “why are we spending all this money on (thing I don’t like)?! Why don’t we take care of the homeless?!”… but then when someone actually suggests spending money to help homeless, conservatives whine about “socialism”.

Nice! immigrants welcome!

Complaining about conservatism in the bluest state in the country right now.. makes sense.

Imagine thinking that conservatives don’t exist in a state simply because there is a solid majority of democrats.

I just meant that I’m sure antiquated housing laws that you mentioned probably make things worse you’re right.

Great counterpoint and thanks for taking the time to share.

I’m just confused when a state and the majority of towns have democrats running but somehow it’s “conservatives” fault for zoning laws? Conservatives don’t have a say in the governing body of this state anywhere. Clearly you want to blame republicans for faults not of their making which I get but they don’t even exist here. You’re blaming a group of people that are 100% irreverent to decision making in Massachusetts.

My comment about conservatives had more to do with conservatives always being like “why are we spending all this money on (thing I don’t like)?! Why don’t we take care of the homeless?!”… but then when someone actually suggests spending money to help homeless, conservatives whine about “socialism”.

i wonder what goes into a temporary shelter to make them $56k each and how much more it would be to make them permanent

Right? You can buy a trailer for a couple thousand more.

This is such a great take on this too, give me more food fusion!

Can we get some more Indian immigrants up in this place? Need to drive 45 minutes to get to a decent Indian food restaurant

The small random taco cart at the back of the parking lot is what I missed most about LA. They’re SO GOOD

They didn't help the schools at all and just rented out hotels and bussed homeless out to them. The hotels were so badly damaged by the residents that they had to be torn down.

Ooof. I’d not heard this.

Honestly, this is what I miss MOST about LA. Diversity is good. I’m in Western Mass far less diverse than everyone east of us but I see the slow changes out here as well.

You mean like the same illegal immigrants we already have that don't understand proper sanitation in the food industry? Just saying.

You have a very naive view of the world

Staffing probably runs that bill up

How about not letting in the migrants/illegal immigrants? Wouldn’t that solve the so called problem?

Says the hypocrite who has never been homeless in Massachusetts, doesn’t have to worry about rent because daddy has set up a trust fund and is already set for life. How cute of you.

If the governor can ensure that there will be no homeless person in Massachusetts ever, then yes by all means, let us all help and house anyone else.

Hope they don't want my check back!

Conservatives? In MA?

Why is it that whenever there's a story about people escaping extremely bad situations, a host of comments focusing on how it improves their lives in such a banal way pop up. It's always food. It's like Poe's law of raw, neoliberal appeals on social media.

>These immigrants are going to bring the world's cuisine to MA.

The world's cuisine is a lot simpler than Americans think. Most of it is shitty street food served in a building with chairs because Americans don't know better.

Sounds like something boring people would want.

Yes, they exist

Diversity is more than consumerist choices, but if all you're concern with are things that don't matter, I can see why you'd arrive at that position.

I'm sure it would, however I chose to believe in love and helping other people. Others can be angry all the time, but I chose not to be. I hope you're doing ok. Feel free to DM me if you want to talk about it.

Humanitarians are far from perfect, and their numbing views are predicated on a lot of things they claim to dislike (imperialism, views of superiority, and so on). No one said "humanitarianism is great" other than humanitarians, or people who haven't really looked at the course of history.

Never mind that in order to help people, you should either help them where they are, since it'll always be cheaper, or you need to prepare. In this case, we aren't even prepared for our own people to live a proper life as expected in decades prior.

>it's expanding the state's capacity to handle anyone in need of housing.

It shouldn't help anyone in need of housing. It should help people with closer ties to the actual land and community.

Do you have a time machine? You can explain that to your grandparents.

Unless they're native American.

Yes but at least we'll have slightly smaller rats.

We have one in the neighborhood i swear the tacos were made in heaven.

This boils down to "you know what would really help, is giving one political side everything they want without restriction". It's very clearly helping by one political view and no other, while claiming anything else is the enemy. There are plenty of problems with housing and zoning restrictions but most people don't realize why a lot of them are in place - for better or worse. The housing stock that's built now is built by builders who have no real sense of architecture or planning. They'd rather build a McMansion if it got them paid more.

All of this is ignoring the silly claim that it's conservatives whining when MA is solidly blue, but most towns don't handle things like some sort of caricature people expect.

We should use universities to house immigrants from May-Sep. The dorms are mostly empty. I think college kids could volunteer over the summer.

Where are the rich progressive folk when there’s an issue?

Where's that getting us?

And why do you think they build those McMansions?!

Because all the damn NIMBY restrictions won’t let them build anything other than SFH!

And yes, a lot of the zoning restrictions are done out of 100% greed and selfishness of existing property owners, to artificially inflate the values of their properties by restricting supply, and keeping less affluent people out. That is literally why SFH-only zoning was created.

A minority, for sure. But let’s not kid ourselves. Nimbyism is a class construct, not political

I don’t really know what answer you’re looking for. But it honestly is just the right thing to do—doesn’t have to “get us somewhere.” I know there’s a place for zero sum thinking, but I think we should try to make it the exception rather than the rule.

> Italian restaurants and steakhouses

That’s unfortunate. I like those.

My comment about conservatives had more to do with them always screeching “what about the homeless?!” whenever someone suggests spending money on something that they don’t like, but then they start screeching about “socialism” when someone suggests doing something to help homeless.

Oh got it

If builders could come up with plans to make really good, aesthetic housing, that's build solidly and densely - like you'd find in Back Bay, Charlestown, or Beacon Hill - people would change their tune. They aren't. McMansions they're building are the result of a lot of things but they could always design them better. There's no legal requirement for them. Large housing isn't just a McMansion, and this part of the country can show that in older, wealthier areas.

The right thing, in these cases, is either subjective, or it's the answer to a question framed in a way to get a specific answer. For the basic type of person who thinks efficiency is a humanist value, but hasn't looked at the world around them, I can understand that.

But the main answer is that it isn't getting us anywhere. We can talk about having some sort of system that helps anyone who needs help, if they show up from another country, but rightly so, that system should benefit people already in the area. That's what was said, with the urge that we do this so that people on somewhere like Mass and Cass get help. The problem is that we'll always end up inducing demand or extending this fight.

This isn't zero-sum thinking. It's the fact that when it comes to dividing things, you could always not divide things. Whether or not there's a hypothetical or theoretical sum at the end doesn't matter.

How many more tax dollars do they need?

What are you not understanding?

Many locations don’t allow anything other than SFH to be built, and in other locations, restrictive zoning makes it prohibitively expensive.

You’re putting the cart before the horse.

Minneapolis hadms one of the best cuisine scenes anywhere due to the influx of migrants. It's incredible!!

Lmao, far from it brochachio. Spent 3 months homeless in 2011, definitely not fun, I wouldn't recommend it. Work in the trades and own an old POS house now which I'm pouring my heart into. I'll vote for or support anything that helps the poor and expands access to health care and support for everyone, regardless of any increase in taxes.

Yes, but some of the best restaurants anywhere in the country are tucked away in a lot of those Berkshire towns.. Great Barrington might have the best 'great restaurant per capita' ratio anywhere on the planet.

I hear your point. I think we fundamentally disagree on the idea that someone “in the area” should get preference over someone who isn’t or who just arrived. I tend to think of all humanity as equally worthy of aid/help/compassion. That may be a lofty way to look at it, but I’d like to think at least starting from that outlook is important as we get into the nitty gritty of what needs to happen.

>How about we ignore the issue wouldn't that solve the so called problem?

-useless uneducated boomer scum

No shit I live in this state for less than 56k

What are your favorites so far?

I've JUST found one recently that I absolutely adore. (Sher-A-Punjab)

Yikes, way to take a "banal" take and turn it into a racist/trashy hot take.

Good job.

More than the zero you pay into it, lowlife.

We do fundamentally disagree, respectfully, but I'm very invested in this as of the past few or so years, when I put the views you have to the test. Views I had as a college student and a little after.

It's what I refer to as numbing, and it doesn't answer any real questions. Like you said, it's lofty, but that's antithetical to the nitty gritty. It's why I think of a book about how politics don't really affect local areas, because local areas have to deal with real, material issues. Republicans and Democrats might disagree on how to handle some things, but they have to keep the trash trucks moving. They have to keep the water flowing.

The idea that we're all equally worthy of aid and help is separate from compassion, which is immaterial, and autonomy, which is another topic. The insinuation that these people need something other than aid or help was never there. I never implied we shouldn't have compassion. I have tons of it. I'm insulted by the insinuation that I'm suggesting something else. Of course I treat people I physically meet respectfully.

I just no longer recognize this bland, post-WW2, grand view that doesn't work. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. It's a continuation of imperialism since you rarely see the West or developed nations changing. It's always "the other". It just sounds a lot nicer now that it's been workshopped and forced to work - especially when our country started selling off its industry and labor. That's why pro-labor people eventually get met with claims of xenophobia.

In this case, why shouldn't our borders matter? They keep us in just as much as they keep others out, and we would be able to help in the abstract more if we had a functioning society. We'd help more people if we helped them where they were. We help fewer people by being lazy and waiting till they get here, telling them good job, and convincing ourselves we did something.

I don't get why you keep jumping tracks. They don't, so the effort should be put into places that do allow for it. They aren't putting that effort in either. I bike by more places in Somerville, Cambridge, and Boston that are newer but weaker, worse looking, and probably future tear-downs in my own life. The buildings that aren't are ones built a long time ago and with better materials.

Why aren't places that build for multi-family complexes building ugly, dogshit, and flimsy places when they don't have the restrictions you're talking about? There's a reason the three places I mentioned are all within the same city. Expand those and get a real movement going. Not the "movement" you're laying out here.

I didn't realize that the problem was that big. 11K people is a big number. The US, most Western Countries, and, many Asian countries, including China, are having fewer kids and there's basically a demographic time bomb for a lot of countries. So countries need immigration if they can't sustain their populations.

Housing is a general problem that's separate from immigration. We just need a lot more of it.

I would give Governor Baker the benefit of the doubt on his plan as he's been generally pretty good in the job.

That doesn't even make sense. I'm talking about the people who are from here, and it applies to people of all races. Food is not a worthy cause, and talking about it to cope with the harsh reality these people are facing, doesn't make sense.

If you hear, "Hundreds leaving violence to simply escape it, with nothing but their clothes," and you think, "I hope they end up serving me new and exciting food!", you're a bad person through and through.

Have you had real, Ukrainian food? We had an influx of Ukrainians recently and their food is far from "a taco truck on every corner". It's good, like most real, authentic food is, but it doesn't have that lame energy that Americans crave and are mentioning in the comments.

Try to work on your reading comprehension before you start throwing out terms you kind of heard but don't come close to getting.

Me, too, but variety doesn't hurt. I hope we end up with a nice mix of everything.

There’s a lot to unpack here (for eg the reason asylum seekers have to come here is partially bc of US foreign policy decisions in the past leading to unstable societies in a lot of places).

But I’m going to respectfully decline to further engage bc it’s thanksgiving eve and I don’t think either of us is going to be convinced via Reddit comments. :) We can agree to disagree on a lot of the beliefs, assumptions, and values we hold. Have a safe and happy holiday!

Because those buildings STILL have to jump through tons of hoops to get built, because of all the restrictions, AND THAT MAKES EVERYTHING MORE EXPENSIVE!

Why are you not understanding this?

When you have to go through a gazillion different zoning board meetings, and hire lawyers, and go through a long and convoluted approvals process, it makes everything more expensive.

Unfortunately writing this off as just boomers is short sighted. Gen X is increasingly more conservative and plenty of millennials/gen z believe in this shit too

Can confirm, I traveled there twice to get my COVID vaccine and Naji's makes AMAZING food.

I’d like to explain a bit of the reason why there’s so many immigrants coming in:

This happens every time there’s some amnesty in place. There was for Cubans, then Haitians, then Venezuelans and now Ukrainians. Those that profit from the movement of people throughout the Central American borders, start spreading the rumours that EVERYONE can claim asylum due to the system being overwhelmed enough. This is how you end up with all these people wandering until they have their date at court.

In the meantime, they get to move around and work under the table. Those from countries with amnesty, will most probably get residency eventually. Those that are not, would have worked and save enough money to bring back when deported.

How come Republicans never try to address the actual source of the problem, and go after the employers giving them jobs?

The answer is that Republicans WANT illegal immigrants here.

Who are all these people downvoting this?

A verious serious question. I’d like to read their stance.

Ive lived in one of those Berkshire towns my whole life and I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or are you actually being serious.

I have options for almost any kind of food here in North Central MA. Leominster/Fitchburg doesn't get enough credit for that. But I've gotta drive an hour for Indian. Actually only 30 minutes to a place in NH, but an hour if I'm staying in MA.

My parents sat on a waiting list for years while Sadaam and Hezbollah bombed their country until they got their green cards.
We didn't hop a fence

We have such major issues in our own state with persons who directly impact our lives and who I gladly pay taxes to help support. Hell, I was one of them at one point!

This isn’t a universal charity I mean wtf are we doing here?

Help people from Massachusetts. That should be our states only priority. Let the feds deal with this shit but even then my stance remains.

This IS NOT anti immigration. In fact, due to COVID immigration restrictions we have a labor shortage and are in need of immigrants.

No, in essence in many cases we are sadly taking in other countries homeless people. Other counties.

Has anyone driving around a town in Massachusetts lately? Serious question. We have a very immediate problem RIGHT HERE not getting addressed.

You couldn't hop a fence. If you could have you would have. You just weren't close enough to the United States at that time.

You were lucky You didn't have to do anything at all. You get the privilege of sitting here and your little Ivory Tower and stepping on people's hands or worse off than you either try and get up the ladder you sit on.

Hey great great grand uncle left because of potato famine to come to the United States. My grandfather and grandmother left to escape Mussolini. I know what you're on about dude it's America home of the free in the brave it's a melting point. It's what makes us strong. We're mutts.

>If you hear, "Hundreds leaving violence to simply escape it, with nothing but their clothes," and you think, "I hope they end up serving me new and exciting food!", you're a bad person through and through.

LMFAO fuckin' brutal and true

Us first, dude. He's proposing a very expensive funding bill. How about using that money on our infrastructure

Thank you for expanding your yikes to even greater depths of pathetically sad.

Hopping a fence is a metaphor for breaking the law you goofy anarchist. Get outta here with that "if you could have you would have" crap for fucking animals.

Thank you for replying only in clichés that add nothing and obscure any real thought you have lmao. You'll bump that second language reading comprehension up to middle school one of these days.

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Was a whole experience just taking the bus

You know, with how scheduled move out vs move in, give 1 week of cleaning and maintenance, you could easily pull this off

Oh piss off you loser magat. I'll take more potholes for a while if it means people aren't starving and or living outside in this cold. You're a terrible person

This is literally the comment I came here to make. Though, Street Kitchen in Marlborough has some amazing Indian fusion pizzas, not to far from Leom/Fitch

I remember someone wrote on the bathroom wall “this bathroom is disgusting” and someone else wrote “what the fuck do you expect?”

“If you could have you would have”

Go fuck yourself you tree root.

Why are we so bent on keeping them in this frozen hellhole. We should be bussing them to Tampa or someplace warm, then pocket the remainder for more natural gas pipelines so this frozen hellhole isn't such an expensive place to live.

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Right you’re so stupid you think other people or animals. You’re an animal too. A lot of people are escaping shit you can’t even imagine. America is a melting pot. These people are what’s called asylum seekers. It’s in the constitution.

I tell you to go back where you come from but the third Reich no longer exists.

Aaha in Weymouth

And yeah, i know Sher a Punjab. Only been there once or twice but it was great

It doesn't even matter. Don't break the law. Apply to immigrate like a civilized person or fight the evil at home. Our asylum laws are geared towards people escaping persecution from their government or one at war, especially after what happened with your "third reich", not people troubled by gangsters or poverty.

"you should either help them where they are, since it'll always be cheaper"

Cool, you got the special hookup with all the other state governor's to make them stop sending people, or....?

"It shouldn't help anyone in need of housing. It should help people with closer ties to the actual land and community."

What does this even mean? You already have a system to help people in Mass, including people who have been born and raised there, should they need help. This is just bolstering that system. What does your statement actually mean?

Verbosity != Veracity

Sorry scumbag, but you're flailing hard here.

I'm north of the cities, right up against the NH border, so Marlborough is still about an hour's drive for me. Though we do swing by the Hudson/Marlborough area occasionally, so I'll put it on the list to check out sometime.

BUILD HOUSING THAT ISNT LUXURY. And do it in nice towns and cities and override zoning bylaws

Bingo. If Republicans really cared about curtailing illegal immigration, they would prosecute (incarceration and fines) those that profit from exploiting immigrants in the construction, agriculture, and restaurant industries. Their wealthy donors would then lobby Congress to pass new immigration laws while the voters concurrently complain about the sharp increase in cost/reduction in availability of services. But, if the GOP solve this problem how could they froth their supporters up?

Bullshit argument. Immigrants in the late 1800s and early 1900s entered legally. People flowing across an unchecked border is a fail. But please, go on and on about how if you're not a Native American you don't "belong here".

>you're flailing hard here.

You can plug in text to online readers and they'll gauge it, however accurately, across a lot of different tests. In this case, what I wrote is equivalent to what a seventh grader or ninth grader is expected to handle.

I'd be way more careful going forward about admitting that seventh grade texts make you so scared that you're ironically dropping words like verbosity lmao.

So tiring listening to these barely-middle-of-the-road politics from people who really only react to media, not politics, talk about how the world should be. They're trying to shape it into EPCOT at everyone's expense. And it's just lazy. They've convinced themselves that they're doing God's work humanitarians' work by just letting people show up, when people showing up at your doorstep happens after a long line of failure. But it's easier to do nothing, and spin that as a good deed, than do real work.

You keep bringing up topics in some rapid-fire manner and asking why I don't get something, when you might be having a hard time explaining what you mean. I do understand this. I just don't have the bland approach that you do that clearly isn't working at all.

I never said we should keep bureaucracy around. I can't stand it. At this point, you're arguing something I haven't said like I'm someone else, but showing that the real thing you value is dirt-cheap housing, when valuations in housing have primarily been hurt by financialization. Housing might have to get a bit more expensive at first. That's true of anything new that you start building. We need to build it back up again though.

I’m sorry but I can’t see a comment like “food is not a worthy cause” without saying something. Food is a universal concept that every human shares. It’s a common tongue that we all speak. It is art and culture all in one. It’s a uniting principle that should never be underestimated. There are whole cultures and economies that revolve around food. Anyone who has felt real starvation gnaw at them, even once, could never utter the phrase “food is not a worthy cause”. Food is one of the worthiest of causes. Food is everything. Food is life.

Well said.

You substitute words for substance thinking you're making a salient point.

You're a fucking clown.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/z31lsf/palestinian_gunmen_seize_body_of_israeli_druze/ixkqg51/

You're a piece of shit and you will die alone, unloved, and no one will care.

https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/z2pdfk/headline_these_days/ixizlrd/

More evidence that you're a lowlife scumbag that will leave this planet better off without you in it than before.

hahaha that second one is pretty good. Also taking the time to go through someone's post history is pretty cringe.

hey next time save yourself some time and sort my posts by 'controversial'

Can funds Texas and Florida receive from the federal government be diverted to Massachusetts ?

Any housing is fine really. Luxury housing—where there exists demand for it—still puts downward pressure on surrounding costs, luxury or not, and over time brings up the quality of all housing in the area if the cycle repeats. (Housing which used to be "luxury" becomes the norm.)

Please enlighten me with suggestions!

That’s 11k people moving INTO the state, neutralizing the thousands moving out.

It helps the economy, it makes the whole system long term sustainable.

The most hardworking people I know are immigrants trying their best to support their families, even under the risk of deportation.

I just drove by Lee, MA today, and had lunch at “Let’s do lunch” and it was amazing.

I dont think it’s ironic.

And we get working population for free in our wonderful state that is losing total population each day.

That’s a win!

Immigration is a loser politically though. Merkel realized that they needed more people and allowed refugees in from a variety of places and paid a large political cost for it. I think that Governor Baker can do this as he is leaving and as Massachusetts is welcoming of immigrants.

As an Italian immigrant, I have to say that regional Italian food is PLENTY interesting. It's Italian-American food that's been played out.

(Spoiler alert: if there's alfredo sauce on the menu it's not an Italian restaurant).

I’m not saying there’s no good restaurants, we have like 5. And they are definitely not the best in the country lmao. We have mint in Lee which is very good Indian food, Frankie’s in Lenox is awesome Italian and new sushi place in north county called Nara which is good. Great barrington has a few decent restaurants but you get sick of the same 5 places, everyone here complains there’s no where to eat. I frequently travel to Albany to get better food.

I know it’s unrelated but I’m curious, what is this Indian restaurant that’s worth driving 45 minutes for? Asking for science

Historically, it has worked well for the US.

And the immigration to Germany added to their gdp [citation needed - have no time to look for it]

Not sure why some people have stopped believing in what made this country great. I seriously suspect it has to do with racism and that the new immigrants are not blonde enough.

US history has this going back a long time. Whoever the new group was.

Man shut the fuck up about colonization from hundreds of years ago. Immigration is supposed to benefit a country. Not be an additional financial burden to tax payers when people already here are struggling to pay rent.

Aaha is the closet one to me. I dont know if its necessarily worth driving 45 minutes for but it is damn good

You just don't know how things work. Most so-called immigrants pay taxes but don't get any of the benefit. So you can just put that in your pipe and smoke it .

The reason you telling me to shut the fuck up is because of no understanding of history.

The people here are struggling to pay rent because the rich control what you can buy and how much the stuff goes for.

Everyone who complains about this stuff especially the rich people employ tons and tons of so-called illegal immigrants.

If we do not have these people in this country the price of food would be even more ridiculous than it is now.

Remember America is supposed to be a meritocracy.

I suppose if you have no merit it would bother you.

I think you’re revealing that you think that’s happening, but you’re commenting on commenting without adding anything. Ironic, and sad - again, seventh grade.

>Also taking the time to go through someone's post history is pretty cringe.

-weak, racist, pussy, whining about minorities on the internet

The length one will go to claw at a perceived superiority while spewing the most vile and hateful shit truly is impressive.

You're not as intelligent as you think you are or so desperately wish others to believe.

I've never whined about minorities

Your post history isn't a secret, you ignorant ape.

LOL the weak racist pussy blocked me and ran like a little bitch

u/kaio_

Ironic

How do you figure? And why am I a lowlife? Please explain. I lived in mass for 37 years paid income tax since I was 14 and still continue to pay income tax in that state, I bet I’ve added far more tax dollars than you have put in or ever will. So please explain what the fuck you are talking about.

https://www.reddit.com/user/kaio_
u/kaio_

Where'd you go, you weak pussy?

Why are racists such pathetic cucks?

The only thing every post of yours has reveled is how intimidated you are by someone giving a fairly thoughtful view, written at a seventh grade level. I never said I was intelligent and I don't value that as a trait or characteristic, if you were to ask.

You need to calm down.