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nevermindever42 t1_iqtc85w wrote
Well, as a simple visitor from Latvia i can tell this does seems like a severe problem in places like lower east side, along with rats and homeless people sleeping literally everywhere
actualtext t1_iqtfbta wrote
He starts touching on the production of trash also needing to be tackles in the end. The building produces 45 bags of trash a day which gets picked up daily. I'm not sure how many bags of trash the bins can hold but hopefully it can do that much at least.
actualtext t1_iqtfe7m wrote
drpvn t1_iqtfotc wrote
Bottcher looks like he’s 12.
lastinglovehandles t1_iqtfqji wrote
There’s another city on the west coast who makes a hullabaloo about trash bins.
mule_roany_mare t1_iqtg01r wrote
NYC doesn't make any more trash than most other places & less than most places in the US.
The issue is the lack of alleys to place dumpsters. Any bin comes at the cost of sidewalk
NYC needs an underground dumpster on every block with a false bottom trashcan on top.
DelTeaz t1_iqtg1a7 wrote
It’s so pathetic. Why does it need a fucking hydraulic system or whatever.
KaiDaiz t1_iqtgkrt wrote
Doesn't matter if you put the trash in alley or bin, still a mountain of it. Yes we do generate a lot of trash. Take a look at amount of trash generated in Japan on trash day per household. They charge the folks money per pound in some areas and naturally they have nil trash. Ours are practically free to toss as much trash we want. It's a bargain here.
Do what other cities already do here in USA and elsewhere, make residents use official sanction trash bags. First x free, anything else have to buy. Heavy enforcement and fines
actualtext t1_iqtgoh2 wrote
That sucks to not take him serious cause he looks young. He’s not wrong though.
drpvn t1_iqthafz wrote
He’s worthless to his district.
KaiDaiz t1_iqthdq1 wrote
Well he open one bin and looks like 1/3 -1/2 already taken by 1 trash bag. Judging from height, its prob no more than 3 x 3 ft
invertedal t1_iqtiojj wrote
Padlocked dumpsters are an essential part of the war on the poor!
Rebel90x t1_iqtnd62 wrote
oh so now we are going to start charging people who produce more trash.
gotta love democrats lol
KaiDaiz t1_iqto15d wrote
not a dem idea considering its practice all over the world and plenty of municipalities in north america
grambell789 t1_iqtotzd wrote
If you charge people for trash it will just get dumped anonymously on the street
KaiDaiz t1_iqtp1rl wrote
That's where you have heavy enforcement and drill it in. Its been successfully implemented in a lot municipalities and reduced trash tremendously
mule_roany_mare t1_iqtp996 wrote
Sure it does.
Other cities don't have nearly the same problem with rats & they spend a lot less per capita to control them.
Loose bags are a buffet, 7 days a week there is unlimited food for rats. Bins make a giant difference
Official bags won't make a difference, no bags are hungry rat proof. Even if half as much trash was generated it wouldn't have the least impact in the pest population. Even with zero trash rats could be sustained on roaches, pigeons, people who feed pigeons & incidental littering/dropped food.
beimcoffee t1_iqtqn4l wrote
I'm so glad to see this. But, worried that the bins will become gross over time.
MIKE_THE_KILLER t1_iqtqovo wrote
NYC should also get rid of those outdoor dining boxes. Those things look like outside trash as well.
Appropriate-Sport-22 t1_iqtscgi wrote
Please clap.
cosmorocker13 t1_iqtsilq wrote
Yes but as a simple New Yorker I can tell you this can’t hold all the garbage from whatever building it’s in front of and will take up parking spots for the rest of a time it’s not being used. It will now be a shelf we’re people rest their garbage
mrchumblie t1_iqttor3 wrote
“New York City residents produce just 3 pounds of waste per day compared to 4.4 pounds for the average American”
Agreed we could ALL benefit from producing less trash and evaluating our relationship to consumption and single use packaging but NYC needs a systemic change in our waste disposal system in conjunction with a cultural reevaluation of our relationship to consumption.
I used live on the 4th floor of a pre-war walk up and I remember being annoyed and disgusted that someone living on the 5th or 6th floor would lug 6 cases of bottled water to their unit every couple of months when we have fantastic tap water here. Ugh.
spaetzelspiff t1_iqtug3n wrote
Fine.
Happy cake day 👏👏👏
Do you want a fucking song too?
Rebel90x t1_iqtuz7a wrote
its not like i already pay a tax for living in nyc. now you want to charge me for my trash? this has to be a joke lol
KaiDaiz t1_iqtvh6w wrote
If you produce a lot trash, only fair you pay for larger share. Again, pay as your throw/trash metering is in place even in high cost of living locals already
KaiDaiz t1_iqtw5jh wrote
and less trash also makes a giant difference. face it, there's not enough bins, alley or front sidewalk space to hide our trash that makes its removal economical & practical. Only way we can start talking about sensible trash storage is to store less of it. Start drastically reducing amount of trash...when our reduced trash output can fit in whatever bin design and haul away for cheap then we can talk about it
GentleShiv t1_iqtwjbq wrote
Gotta love some moron reading something one random person on the internet wrote and thinking "democrats want to do this to me." You really need to turn off the fox news and dehinge your head from your ass
teknolog t1_iqtwvn4 wrote
Seems to work in every other city I've lived in.
AshingtonDC t1_iqu0skz wrote
I can tell you this space is better used to store garbage than for one person to park their unnecessary car
OneLastDream t1_iqu229c wrote
Stfu dumb ass
According_Click3992 t1_iqu46ok wrote
All NYU trash is going in that?! They should properly address this problem. Do it like in the Netherlands where they have huge underground bins that can be lifted and emptied in 2 min by a truck. No smell no rats no taking up parking space. It’s not rocket science.
cosmorocker13 t1_iqu4a8x wrote
Unnecessary? All cars in NYC are unnecessary now or just those from Jersey?
AshingtonDC t1_iqu5ty7 wrote
I didn't say that, and my personal opinion is that most people from jersey don't need to drive into the city
KaiDaiz t1_iqu6a37 wrote
Hard to dig anywhere in city to make a hole for underground bin without hitting something critical. Also that NYU bin is serviced daily by private contractor. Good luck NYC Sanitation doing that. We have to dramatically expand our sanitation force at great expense. Cheaper to just force ppl to toss less garbage so less storage space needed
soyeahiknow t1_iqu6d2v wrote
Politics at any level is a shitshow. At my college, it took over 3 yeara of fighting and meetings to get papertowels in our dorm bathrooms
603er t1_iqu74iq wrote
How does one force someone to toss less garbage?
KaiDaiz t1_iqu7cfh wrote
Charge folks to pay as you throw after certain free amount. Not rocket science either, practice by many municipalities.
https://cbcny.org/research/better-way-pay-solid-waste-management
603er t1_iqu7vmt wrote
Sure. But in Denver, say, as the trash truck comes to my waste bins at the front of the drive way, I’m sure they could specifically count my personal trash use. Im unsure of how that would work in NYC. Plus much of the waste we see piled on the streets comes from businesses where certain amounts of trash are inevitable.
The real solution would be to demolish existing NYC streets and make some alleys. Since that will never happen, a Barcelona giant container system seems feasible. This seems like an intermediate step.
KaiDaiz t1_iqu8gd1 wrote
No counting required since you have to use specific bags purchase from city. If not in those bag, they wont get picked and household fined. Simple process. More trash you generate, more bags you buy from city.
While those giant containers system look nice, it will simply cost a arm and leg to install and to get our sanitation to pick them up regularly. Plus need truck upgrades. So never going to happen due to cost.
robotmalfunction t1_iqualgm wrote
Chicago has a much better trash infrastructure, but I'd say comparable or even worse rat issue. I only have anecdotal evidence though. If trash comes once a week most places, there's no way to stop those hungry rats.
eleazarius t1_iqufqo7 wrote
It’s normal almost everywhere outside of this city to pay for trash pickup from a bin you leave outside your house/apartment once a week. Only in NYC is it seen as sane to have everyone dump their trash on the street every night and get it picked up for “free” (taxes).
Rebel90x t1_iqug2pf wrote
ok so i already pay for the collection through my taxes, and now we want to charge me even more money just for some fancy bin? yea, no thanks.
MuchTimeWastedAgain t1_iqugt6r wrote
You gotta hand it to them - public trash cans. They had to “look around the world” for examples. Really?
Over-Tackle5585 t1_iquhhfd wrote
I promise you that a change in how we store and dispose of trash will effect change way fucking faster than trying to change, en masse, how people conduct their lives.
Honestly the order you’re suggesting doesn’t even make sense. It’d be far easier to start with containerizing trash because we’d then at least be able to track and charge people for the waste they produce.
sutisuc t1_iquij3r wrote
Eliminating parking is good
Shanghox t1_iqujas4 wrote
How would this work for people putting trash bags down apartment trash chutes?
pandaappleblossom t1_iqukalz wrote
thats not the point of the lock
avon_barksale t1_iquq1il wrote
Not the best solution, but have to start somewhere. Props to the councilman.
leupboat420smkeit t1_iquq5kz wrote
To fit more garbage in it
markhly t1_iqurjlb wrote
OverlordXenu t1_iqurl6r wrote
plenty of cities have below-ground bins/dumpsters, which don't take up much space topside but can hold huge amounts of trash subterranean. this is a solved problem. what a joke that they have a press conference for a dumpster with some grass growing on it.
MaTheOvenFries t1_iqus1xy wrote
1 parking spot taking trash off the sidewalk with benefit far more people than 1 car sitting there.
MaTheOvenFries t1_iqus5kf wrote
The water bottle thing drives me nuts too.
jtms1200 t1_iquuhxe wrote
All cars, but. ESPECIALLY the ones from NJ
jamesnyc32 t1_iquyapp wrote
Of course they will. This is a band-aid fix. It's a step in the right direction, but there's also a major litter problem that's not being addressed. Fancy trash cans aren't going to fix all those issues of too much waste vs waste management available and these dipshits that just throw trash everywhere.
OkSquirrel5696 t1_iqv2dru wrote
That’s pretty effing sad
Appropriate-Sport-22 t1_iqv4l1m wrote
You know I want a song!
Honest_Ice_7239 t1_iqv9vbg wrote
He got millions for this? Another successful scam
CavediverNY t1_iqvapfu wrote
Not to mention how easy it is to get a Britta filter or a zero water filter… Incidentally, I have a zero filter and it comes with a “particle checker“ to see how clean the water is. My New York City tapwater is fantastic!
U_MIRIN_BRO t1_iqvbr3e wrote
This video is even funnier if you play the avengers theme over it
Red__dead t1_iqveq5b wrote
>no taking up parking space
Who gives a fuck about parking spaces? These should be on every block.
hhazzah t1_iqvf75l wrote
Underground dumpster is a good idea. I’ve seen these in Amsterdam and it seems to work very well. I guess the problem in NYC would be underground tunnels, cabling and pipes though. I’m not from NYC though, so maybe someone else could comment on the viability of that.
Any_Foundation_9034 t1_iqvjnln wrote
Why don’t they just park Garbage trucks on every city block the night before Garbage pick up ?
You have a mobile trash bin then and nobody needs to use locks and keys (how annoying) to access what is in the bins.
Any_Foundation_9034 t1_iqvjqz0 wrote
Agreed!
It isn’t big enough.
So much trash…
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iqvjsrw wrote
What cities are these?
If they're in Europe and/or Asia, it really isn't applicable. There is too much of a cultural difference.
Any_Foundation_9034 t1_iqvjts8 wrote
They really need to do trash pick up more frequently in NYC. This will actually solve the issue.
According_Click3992 t1_iqvjz6d wrote
Not too hard to dig.. this isn’t me.. just a random dude. As you see middle in a busy packed mixed use space. Shouldn’t be too difficult to do this in NYC streets..
HashtagDadWatts t1_iqvlapj wrote
Rubbish control is a better use of the space than storage for private cars.
StermasThomling t1_iqvljrm wrote
DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB
KaiDaiz t1_iqvllbb wrote
if not in specify bag, building fined and not picked up. eventually everyone gets on board
KaiDaiz t1_iqvlshj wrote
these other places pay taxes + trash fee
supremeMilo t1_iqvpuf4 wrote
City needs to pick five bin styles, put out open source designs for them so they can be built and sourced inexpensively (not everything needs to be a jobs program) and then usurp a few parking spots for every block to put these in (could they safely be put in front of fire hydrants, maybe two five foot wide bins and five feet clear in front of the hydrant?)
Start with Manhattan south of 96th street, make the buildings pay for them, there isn't an owner in this area that can't afford this, and make binning trash mandatory, or fined. If you get enough fines you receive a free bin.
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Done, how hard was that?
Rpanich t1_iqvrne3 wrote
Someone brought this up in the last thread, but I found this image… i think under the sidewalks is more or less the same. I’m not positive there would actually be the room?
Madwithhats t1_iqvrvl4 wrote
Wondering how this will affect trash collection. There won't be only bags in there. People will start using those boxes for loose and bulky stuff. Idk. A lot is nice in theory. But I guess we'll see how it goes once the pilot program is over. Interesting.
One-Conflict-5043 t1_iqvrxcv wrote
Allow for designated spots in the street to store trash on pickup day only. Itll keep the sidewalks clear.
KaiDaiz t1_iqvrzf5 wrote
Its here as well. Over 9k communities here in USA. 62/100 largest cities in USA has some form of PYT. Canada has this too, go to Toronto. Basically it's the norm around the world and rest of USA to charge for excess trash vs flat rate we get here
shin_datenshi t1_iqvs00f wrote
this human/impostor thinks like a problem solver. Why aren't there enough people like you in executive / legislative positions?!?
KaiDaiz t1_iqvsiuo wrote
The building of the site chosen to house all the trash for entire street infront/near them wont support this idea. The residents in those corner spots will be in uproar.
Khutuck t1_iqvt3g2 wrote
Exactly. They can put wheeled containers in front of the hydrants, six of them can fit in the no-park zone of hydrants. No digging required. These are also less physically demanding for the sanitation workers than tossing bags: https://youtu.be/Ilvo0b2y9Wo
chocolatebabydoll t1_iqvtb3s wrote
Not that OP didn't understand, it's just sad I think.
JeffMavMerc1942 t1_iqvte55 wrote
Only took them over 100 years to figure this out
KaiDaiz t1_iqvtr8h wrote
You honestly think its easier to massively expand the sanitation force + dig a bunch of holes in ground or place other bins? The expense alone makes this unfeasible for city.
OR easier for city to slap fines and fees to correct our trash problem. Far easier and cheaper the later for city to implement fast.
MatlockLegalAttorney t1_iqvtrmu wrote
It is my dream to dispose of trash in a cleaner and more efficient way and equip DSNY with hazmat suits and a firehouse that shoots boiling water + bleach.
They’d hose down the city every 3 days. 😴💭
tripinjackal t1_iqvtxns wrote
It probably cost $15 million dollars and took 5 years of dedicated work across multiple municipal departments to make this happen.
One-Conflict-5043 t1_iqvvois wrote
Why uproar, they already have garbage in front of there buildings, now itll be further from there windows, use it for buildings that produce alot of trash like those that have compacters. 2x or 3x times a week one spot will be taken temporarily.
KaiDaiz t1_iqvw2d8 wrote
yes their garbage not the entire blocks garbage infront of them.
would you live infront of community garbage collection site?
birthdaycakefig t1_iqvwdbo wrote
Culture is very different.
The second we start charging people to throw trash out this city will become much worse, 100% trash out the windows and into streets/rivers. Only the richer neighborhoods will be clean.
Oh, just like today I guess.
tim-maliyil t1_iqvwstk wrote
It probably took a committee of 100 people and 10 years to make this happen. 🤣
birthdaycakefig t1_iqvwzke wrote
Yea, because everything else the city slaps fines and fees on works out smoothly since our citizens are perfect law abiding and give a shit about others.
birthdaycakefig t1_iqvxgot wrote
We’ll just complain that heavy enforcement only hurts the poor and makes them poorer.
Also, look at anything else we “enforce”. Cars drive all over, scooters are all over oír sidewalks. Do you really think there’s going to be squads of cops checking peoples garbage?
We like to say that things work in other cities but honestly the culture in NY and US is not like the culture in other parts of the world and it’s very obvious. In other parts of the world, a big way to get people to do something is to show them how it impacts everyone. We only care about ourselves.
csgowtfisgoingon t1_iqvxy5i wrote
It's beyond sad, the smell around herald square and the broadway area is so terrible when it rains. It's like I want to die inside.
KaiDaiz t1_iqvy2mr wrote
have to start somewhere. fines and punishment has always been used by our society to correct behavior.
One-Conflict-5043 t1_iqvy770 wrote
Many buildings take up an entire residential street, you can also select.multiple locations, perhaps near fire hydrants for access
KaiDaiz t1_iqvybjw wrote
still boils down...you want to live in front of the community garbage collection site that has the unfair burden? those residents and owners will fight it
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KaiDaiz t1_iqw0pcm wrote
majority of the us charges for excess trash vs the flat rate toss as much you can do here
HighGround24 t1_iqw11ng wrote
With the amount of trash I've seen on sidewalks in NYC, I really don't think this will do much other than just make it look slightly better and make it a little harder for sanitation workers.
nonhiphipster t1_iqw1e63 wrote
Yeah…progress is progress. Let’s cut with the sarcasm and just be thankful that some people are pushing this.
Art-In-Decay t1_iqw4rak wrote
Jesus Christ… all the homeless in nyc and you all you care about is a fucking trash can. At least it’s colord so now the people who sleep inside can sleep in style…
Cobblestone-boner t1_iqw5kbb wrote
Naples would like a word
Cachesystem t1_iqw6rej wrote
While this is a really dumb thing to do, have a press conference for a trash can, it isn’t the dumbest thing I have seen a town/city do. Did you know there is at least one place in California that made a dog a mayor for at least one full term? Just google it and it proves that NYC might be crazy but we aren’t paranoid schizophrenics.
aMonkeyRidingABadger t1_iqw6ubs wrote
Brings tears of joy to my eyes.
LoneStarTallBoi t1_iqw7x5p wrote
oh yeah I'm sure nypd will get right on that
Over-Tackle5585 t1_iqw87ol wrote
Yes, I do think massive public works are far easier than changing individual behavior. Like so much easier it’s laughable to think otherwise. This city has a 100 billion budget and you think it’s impossible to do something every other city in the world of its size is capable of? Okay dude…yeah it’ll be way easier to get all 8 million people to collectively change the way they live their lives to be more inconvenient
KaiDaiz t1_iqw897h wrote
be sanitation not nypd writing tickets and they already write plenty
KaiDaiz t1_iqw8gqd wrote
barely afford the 100B budget but you want to add a few B out of no where for more sanitation on top of other budget woes? sure dude
Over-Tackle5585 t1_iqw94an wrote
What better things would that kind of money go to than the sanitation and cleanliness of New York? Are you affiliated with a waste disposal lobby or something? Containerizing trash would SAVE money in the long run as it makes trash disposal more efficient and quicker - thats why the waste disposal lobby is so staunchly against it. Literally just remove a parking spot or two from each block and throw a dumpster in.
KaiDaiz t1_iqw9a51 wrote
City cant afford it and don't have the manpower to do daily pickups. If you cant see that, you simply blind of reality. How often the city pick up your trash? think that small bin will hold it for the downtime for pickup? nope
Only way out of our trash mess is to drastically reduce the trash
Also not trash lobby
shamam t1_iqw9g39 wrote
I can't even get my neighbors to break down their cardboard boxes before they put them in the trash room. It's 1 fucking piece of tape!
Over-Tackle5585 t1_iqw9g5j wrote
Lol. Ok waste disposal lobby bot. Let’s keep feeding the rats then. Lmk when you convince the entirety of the city to cut their trash output in half
KaiDaiz t1_iqwa4nz wrote
It will overflow. Even in video they state it requires daily pickup and by private contractors I bet. That alone is not feasible for city to do with current staffing.
Cyril_Clunge t1_iqwaald wrote
I moved to LA recently and a single trash bin would be nice.
brownredgreen t1_iqwcacg wrote
Because the externalities of private vehicles are too high.
blckneck62 t1_iqwdjg9 wrote
All neighborhoods in NYC IS UNDER A COMMUNITY BOARD..certain COMMUNITY BOARDS HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AND INPUT BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS DESIRE CERTAIN SERVICES(yes,tax implications apply)..if the resident wants the neighborhood to look like trash;then,don’t participate in the CB ACTIONS;otherwise;the residents of said CB demand serious actions&services..DSNY BUDGET was approximately $50M or better in the last fiscal year(SANITATION IS A SERIOUS HEALTH CONCERN—GARBAGE STRIKE..festering and foul putrid garbage in the streets)POLITICIANS LOVE THIS GARBAGE STUFF BEAUSE THE CONSTITUENTS DEMAND ACTIONS IMMEDIATELY—SAFE AND CLESN STREETS ALWAYS..
elizabeth-cooper t1_iqwh7w3 wrote
How does someone produce 3 pounds of waste every day? They must be eating a lot of meat/chicken on the bone.
neutralpoliticsbot t1_iqwj3nj wrote
My building puts out 100x the amount of bags that would fit in these.... dumb and stupid.
veddy_interesting t1_iqwl8t0 wrote
If NYC magically replaced all the trash with winning lottery tickets you can be sure someone would have a problem with that.
"Sure that SOUNDS good but now I have to go wait on a long line to get my money..."
If we want things to bet better, let's not knock the people who are actually getting something useful done.
juicychakras t1_iqwnrjw wrote
Very hard. Much easier to pay millions to McKinsey to create a snazzy powerpoint that says the same thing.
God this is so frustrating to watch
teknolog t1_iqwntfr wrote
My house is in San Francisco. Not sure if that's technically in America, but it's not in Asia or Europe.
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iqwo7lf wrote
I'm not sure i'd classify San Francisco as a particularly 'clean' city.
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iqwq6nt wrote
The fact that it's 2022 and the sanitation situation for one of the most populated cities on earth is "just dump your trash on the sidewalk" is pretty comical.
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iqwr7zl wrote
Eventually everyone starts throwing bags of trash into the East River or right onto the FDR drive* lol.
I do appreciate your optimism and faith in the people of New York City though.
KaiDaiz t1_iqwva8q wrote
paying for excess trash is the norm for rest of world and most places in usa as well.
damnatio_memoriae t1_iqwvpse wrote
i think there was a post a few weeks ago that pretty much said exactly that. they spent a bunch of money researching and prototyping and whatever they came with didn't even work (how hard is it to build a container anyway?).
edit -- here's the post i was thinking of:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/w3jdph/nycs_new_containerized_trash_bins_arent_leakproof/
dumberthenhelooks t1_iqwy1wd wrote
Just so you know most of the buildings you think you’re talking about already have a trash storage system. They only put the trash out on days when it’s picked up. I have no idea what my building actually does with its trash. It collects it everyday. Stores it. And it’s out on the sidewalk less then 6 hrs on average. It’s the smaller buildings that put the trash out. And even when I lived in one of those we had locked bins that residents put trash in and then the super would put them on the street the day of pick up.
damnatio_memoriae t1_iqx0uqw wrote
“... and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'SAVE US!' "
"... and I'll look down and whisper, 'No.' ”
damnatio_memoriae t1_iqx0zvh wrote
they have removed a lot of them recently
SirJoeffer t1_iqx2g62 wrote
But how does this make legislators money???
York_Villain t1_iqx5y00 wrote
I swear there are ppl in this subreddit that think there's only dirt and soil underneath the asphalt and cement. lmao
mule_roany_mare t1_iqxacx1 wrote
NYC is super dense underground, but you only need one dumpster per block. It's not a big deal if people have to carry their trash bags an extra 20 feet
There isn't one size fits all solution for the whole city, my block does have an alley that can hold dumpsters, ones that don't can get an underground dumpster, ones that don't can get an above ground dumpster
Rpanich t1_iqxam64 wrote
Oh yeah, if we can get a big enough one per block, I think that’d be a fantastic idea.
mule_roany_mare t1_iqxbngx wrote
>How often the city pick up your trash?
3 times a week, pretty much everywhere in all of NYC
Butt_Sauce t1_iqxc1wg wrote
“1 dumpster per block” X 100k blocks… yeah no big deal. And that’s assuming you only need one per block. Have you seen the mountains of garbage on some streets? What happens when the garbage doesn’t fit?
teknolog t1_iqxcwla wrote
That is a true statement but they charge a lot for trash service.
KaiDaiz t1_iqxd221 wrote
nah 2x where I live. either way def not everyday to make those bins work in example hence city can never afford to make these bins work for entire city
nycregoddess t1_iqxeqvf wrote
Building owners are already fined when there is loose trash in front of the buildings. $100 first offense, $300 each additional. That means if people dump in front of them, or whatever, it is the building owners responsibility. There's plenty of "city services" that building owners are actually responsible for.
mule_roany_mare t1_iqxjq5b wrote
If I was the trash Czar & building this infrastructure I'd schedule dumpsters to be emptied when they are near full instead of on a schedule, triggered by LoRaWAN sensors.
So you'd pick up the full dumpsters & the total collections wouldn't rise because you could leave the not-full dumpsters longer.
You can't compare one time infrastructure costs to ongoing annual costs. Even a small increase in trash efficiency will pay for major outlays in a decade. Not to mention the quality of life improvements too numerous to be quantifiable.
Lets say the infrastructure costs a billion dollars... That's 6 months of the sanitation budget. a 5% increase in efficiency would pay for itself in one decade and pay dividends for the next 90
supremeMilo t1_iqxzim2 wrote
Good, the city isn’t the one throwing trash everywhere, the people are.
YouandWhoseArmy t1_ir00tam wrote
I support the city trash bags you buy, but it would never work in NYC. Too many people that don’t give a fuck. Too hard to track. It would just make the place dirtier with people trying to beat the system.
ripstep1 t1_ir027pj wrote
Then I put my garbage in a bag and place in front of my neighbors house
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MLao_ t1_ir8l8ms wrote
If you're thankful for crumbs you'll forever live in mediocrity.
Demand better.
nonhiphipster t1_ir9gtz5 wrote
You can be thankful for crumbs and also demand better
KaiDaiz t1_iqt7y7z wrote
Not big enough. there's a reason why we see mountains of trash on sidewalks. We produce too much trash...till we actually charge folks money to reduce their trash habits, we will always have mountains of trash on the street