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ScrappleOnToast t1_j9646hx wrote

Suburban kid playing gangster. His Instagram is mostly fishing and motor biking, until recently, where he’s flashing cash and a pistol in his waistband.

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phillybeardo t1_j965qf1 wrote

I wonder if folks in the other thread talking about sending the military to North Philly to lock down/raid the neighborhood will wake up this morning with a changed heart? Or, will they continue on living on with that viewpoint in their heart? I guess we'll see (they probably won't change).

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SaltPepperKetchup215 t1_j965s6k wrote

Brother carjacks. Cop makes arrest this brother shoots cop while arresting. Supposedly all on very clear video. Absolutely no fucking plea here. Put them both away forever.

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Fourlec t1_j9670l1 wrote

Death penalty. Fuck this pos.

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SnapCrackleMom t1_j967m5n wrote

Not equating this tragedy with the car flipping on Superbowl Sunday, but this is the second time in a week we've had a national news story about violence and chaos at Temple and the culprits have been privileged young white men from the suburbs.

This guy's IG is full of dirt bikes and ATVs. How many of the assholes racing up and down Broad are from the suburbs? How many of the people who trashed police cars during the BLM protests were white people from the suburbs?

This guy comes from money. One of the men who turned himself in for the car flipping is the son of an Upper Darby town councilperson. I think it's worth examining and discussing the issue of suburban people of privilege treating Philadelphia like their personal Rage Room.

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PhillyPanda t1_j96bm18 wrote

Lock the guy up. Color doesn’t matter. Age doesn’t matter. Socioeconomic status doesn’t matter. Where they’re from doesn’t matter. Still the same answer.

The good thing is this guy was caught. The tragic thing is an officer was killed. It doesn’t fit the acab narrative either but I am sure people who believe that also believe this guy deserves to be in prison. If it was caught on camera like people have said, that makes it much more likely and thats a good thing.

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Philodemus1984 t1_j96c5zk wrote

On a somewhat related note, my understanding is that a good number of addicts/mentally ill/unhoused people/etc are originally from the burbs and often their issues began while still living in the burbs (for example they first became addicted while living in the burbs). If so, then suburbanites are often exporting their problems (drug addiction/mental illness/etc) to our city. And then many of these suburbanites point their fingers at us and say that our city is a shithole for having to actually deal with these problems rather than export them elsewhere.

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Desjardins99 t1_j96co7j wrote

Don't think the truth will matter. Despite the fact tons of ppl in rural areas own ATVs and have no idea what "bike life" even is....some people in the OG thread saw he owned dirt bikes and pivoted to him being "influenced" by "north Philly bike life".

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joeltheprocess76 t1_j96csmf wrote

It takes a lot of balls or stupidity to shoot a cop in the head. Cops may not find the murderer for a civilian crime but if he thought cops don’t use every resource to find a cop killer // this kid is going to love what happens when he goes to prison

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phillybeardo t1_j96cyi0 wrote

Oh, for sure. I feel like if you've reached the point of saying things like (and I paraphrase), "they should go door to door through the neighborhood and raid each home", your POV has been settled WAY before this case, or any new facts about it.

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Zhuul t1_j96d2rq wrote

Please be as critical as you want of this number because I have no idea how accurate such a survey can be but I’ve seen it estimated that ~60% of the homeless population in Philly is from somewhere else.

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moderately_random t1_j96d4b6 wrote

I hope, I hope his rich parents don’t get them off. These bastards had a life of privilege some of us (ME)could only dream of. I want them to rot their whole rest of their lives in prison.

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PhillyPanda t1_j96d9v1 wrote

I agree, that’s what my post is saying. As a law and order person who believes philly has crime issues, this guy belongs in jail. As an acab guy, you believe this guy belongs in jail.

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burrata-academy t1_j96dgxj wrote

Genuinely the dumbest take imaginable, but if you’re addicted to your simplistic narratives and too small to cut it in the real world, you’re gonna end up grasping at straws. It’s fucking embarrassing.

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kaiwrx t1_j96dpoq wrote

Anytime i see people trashing a city during an event i assume they're going home to their quiet suburban neighborhoods after.. people usually don't destroy a street they need to walk down everyday

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Lunamothknits t1_j96e2h5 wrote

-whispers- I've been bitching about this for years.

People think the city is just soooooo scary. The county has plenty of its own criminals, and they often come here to fuck around. They've been treating the city as their personal playground for a while. I mean, look at the stats on who's down on the Ave seeking a fix.

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burrata-academy t1_j96e9hx wrote

Just anecdotal evidence, but I grew up in the burbs—a really nice one tbh—and have run into classmates on the El suffering from addiction. Have family members who have ended up down in Kensington addicted to heroin.

I always joke that if you’re raised in the suburbs you end up in the city, one way or another: either for college, for a better job, or with a drug addiction. All the “City Bad Suburbs Perfect” people never want to hear it though.

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datruesurfer t1_j96eb3o wrote

We need tougher judges across the board. This girl was killed in Manayunk a few years ago by her own father. But the whole thing started with a custody dispute in bucks county family court. Judge flat out ignored all the warning signs and granted unsupervised shared custody to a mentally unstable man.

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j96ejvl wrote

Well keep in mind that police are the literal enemy in the city, making it easy for shitheads from the county to come in and cause trouble, because it’s pretty well known there won’t be consequences. Suburban counties actually put people in jail making it less attractive to losers like this kid to do shit there instead of making the short drive to the city.

Then factor in how short handed PPD is since it’s been made abundantly clear to them (see my first article) that they aren’t wanted and are unliked, and it becomes a self fulfilling problem and is an inevitable downward spiral that will only cost the city and it’s residents in the long run.

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mishmash43 t1_j96fj0i wrote

the initial story was posted on /r/conservative, i am guessing the follow up won't be

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sugr_magnolia t1_j96g7ci wrote

This is a reminder to be civil and otherwise follow the rules of the sub when posting.

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PhillyPanda t1_j96grj3 wrote

Philadelphia is a destination drug city. But that’s a fault of philadelphia. We attract people from out of town to come here with our drug culture.

We’re also a destination healthcare city and do the same with our hospitals and that’s a huge pro for philly.

I dont think you can only accept the suburban transplants for the good things while not acknowledging it’s Philly’s flaws that are ultimately drawing people with drug addictions here.

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ylli101 t1_j96hjv1 wrote

Actually you’d be surprised, a good amount are people from the suburbs (no joke). They trailer their dirt bikes, atvs, side by sides etc and ride them through the city and then load them back up and go home.

I’ve witnessed it, others have as well and it’s actually crazy if you think about it. I’m not saying that their are city dwellers that dont do it too but shockingly a good amount are suburbia people.

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Kodiak_85 t1_j96i5va wrote

Bury this piece of shit under the jail.

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Hib3rnian t1_j96iazo wrote

No, but a good lawyer and plea bargain will help make the sentence easier and probation a quicker reality.

Opie will be out back in the burbs in 10 yrs, released quietly and working some nice job daddy arranges for him.

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tastycakebiker t1_j96jz62 wrote

I truly doubt that. It’s ashame he’ll be tried in Philly… if there is anyone to allow something like that it’s Philly’s DA office. Weintraub and the bucks county DA office would lock his ass up for life and throw away the key. They know how to try crime

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Lubbles t1_j96k2nu wrote

“This is so sad. As a kid i have many fond memories of Bucks County but i hardly recognize it today. Its a shame but i feel its a lost cause and no longer has any real community to protect it and prevent these things”

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RJ5R t1_j96kyrb wrote

There were some pretty vile comments in this thread, I see now that the mod removed them. And likely for good cause.

I am skipping over the rest of the race-based comments, just to say I am so glad they caught the ones responsible for this murder. I hope the entire bookshelf is thrown at them. The area around Temple seems to be getting worse and worse, certainly worse than when I took classes there back in the early 2000's

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AbsentEmpire t1_j96mnzn wrote

Part of the problem is that judges have to weigh the avaliable space in prisons to comply with court orders about prison crowding.

The way we elect judges isn't good, and it results in people who should not be on the bench making terrible decisions, however it's also not entirely the fault of judges when bad outcomes happen due lack of available prison space.

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rossdowdell t1_j96mp81 wrote

The same people in here that were upset this would fit a narrative about a black guy killing a cop are somewhat satisfied it is a white Bucks kid that killed a cop.

Meanwhile, the cop is still dead. A cop killer is in jail. Hopefully, he never has a free day for as long as he lives. That's the narrative.

I am not sure why anyone would look at this murderer's Internet presence other than to find fodder to lob at those they disagree with. He's a cop killer. That's his identity from here on.

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proudbakunkinman t1_j96nfdy wrote

I think another factor is a sense of rules not applying as much since you're in a different area than where you spend most of your time in. Thinking you're nearly unidentifiable, not caring about the locals since you know you won't be running into them again, and thinking the local police will somehow have a tougher time finding you since you're not a local. Edit: not sure which word caused this to be auto-removed.

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tossup17 t1_j96nt41 wrote

Definitely part of it. Just look at all the narratives and commentators joking about how Philadelphia was going to be anarchy and chaos whether the Eagles won or lost. It feeds into outside people thinking that's what they have to do, when the reality is the people that actually live here aren't like that. Philly never riots when a team loses, we just get sad and drunk.

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ylli101 t1_j96nyfd wrote

Exactly, it’s a good mix of suburbia and city people but I have found these huge huge packs of the bike life people are the suburban people. You see the occasional few dirt bikes doing wheelies and that’s city folk.

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sugr_magnolia t1_j96o7xp wrote

Anything and everything should be reported. We know a dogwhistle when we see one, and we do our best to remove content before it's even reported. But we can't have eyes on every thread at all times.

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DuvalHeart t1_j96oh0o wrote

Increased punishment does not act as a deterrent to criminal behavior. The only deterrent to criminal behavior is an increased perceived belief in being caught. That's why DUI checkpoints work, but automatic loss of a license doesn't.

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