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levivilla4 t1_j4iqh3m wrote

Back in my old city there was a 7-11 that did the same thing. It was obnoxious. I don't know how well it worked, cause it was still a hotbed for shady peeps

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JoanNoir t1_j4is0ac wrote

A Walgren's in Albuquerque does this. I used to get my lunch across the street at the supermarket then go sit on the grass out front. I noticed a number of others doing similar. A roasted chicken thigh, fresh tortillas, and Rossini is absolutely the best.

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Notsnowbound t1_j4is4oo wrote

Like, physically? How fucking loud is it?

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WimpyLimpet t1_j4isoyk wrote

Homelessness is not a crime, but playing loud music throughout the night is.

>One KXAN viewer who lives in an apartment building opposite the building contacted us, saying he could also hear the opera music playing throughout the night. The viewer is not alone; the City of Austin said they received five complaints for the store since the start of 2023 when the music likely started, based on Morgan’s timeline. 

>According to Austin’s Code of Ordinance of amplified sound, a business may not operate equipment that produces a sound louder than 85 decibels, equivalent to that of a food blender, from the property line between the hours of 10 a.m. to 2 a.m. And from 2 a.m. to 10 a.m., the sound should not be audible at the property line, according to the same code. 

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canuckcowgirl t1_j4itst2 wrote

They used to play classical music at the train stations so the kids didn't hang out.

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Jrich954 t1_j4iyiiw wrote

The city of Fort Lauderdale plays abian noise at 4am when clubs get out. They also put on sprinklers all over even where’s there is no grass so homeless can’t sleep.

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Tavoria t1_j4iyp3q wrote

They do it at the St John’s 7-11 as well. I always thought it was peculiar. Now I know why they do it.

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txgypsy t1_j4j1hbg wrote

Back in the '80s when I was skateboarding me and Friends used to go skating at a local church. They had plenty of handrails and nice wide sloping handicap ramps, perfect for skateboarding and grinding. Calling the cops on us to get us to leave didn't work, then they sprinkled gravel on all the sidewalks and ramps around the church. We brought brooms. Then they decided to loudly pipe out some corny hillbilly sounding bluegrass gospel music to get us to leave.... it had a decent BPM to skate to. Then they decided to go CIA mode and torture us with Old Testament Bible readings by who sounded like Ferris Bueller's school teacher, and did it at full blast.. we surrendered, we moved on to a strip mall a couple blocks over from the church

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starkmatic t1_j4j1v2p wrote

Cafes blast cold to get people moving sometimes to

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Hawanja t1_j4j2em0 wrote

I mean, this is better than spraying them with a hose.

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sighthoundman t1_j4j39kp wrote

Replying to TheLapisFreak (#1,372,688)

>I think it's just like hanging around a location doing nothing

Depends on the state. That's legal in Tennessee.

If you are interfering with traffic (including foot traffic), that's loitering.

It was a trope (long ago) that disreputable looking people who just hung around doing nothing would be arrested for "loitering with intent". O. Henry used it at least once.

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kevinds t1_j4j3gtt wrote

Replying to mittens1982 (#1,372,108)

Except not legal.

Edit, for downvotes: According to the laws quoted in the article, it isn't legal..

>According to Austin’s Code of Ordinance of amplified sound, a business may not operate equipment that produces a sound louder than 85 decibels, equivalent to that of a food blender, from the property line between the hours of 10 a.m. to 2 a.m. And from 2 a.m. to 10 a.m., the sound should not be audible at the property line, according to the same code. 

Being that neighbors are complaining that it can be heard.

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kevinds t1_j4j3w06 wrote

>According to Austin’s Code of Ordinance of amplified sound, a business may not operate equipment that produces a sound louder than 85 decibels, equivalent to that of a food blender, from the property line between the hours of 10 a.m. to 2 a.m. And from 2 a.m. to 10 a.m., the sound should not be audible at the property line, according to the same code. 

>One KXAN viewer who lives in an apartment building opposite the building contacted us, saying he could also hear the opera music playing throughout the night.

I think that the violations won't stop until substantial fines are applied..

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[deleted] t1_j4j57vi wrote

I know a mall owner who played loud country music at their urban/suburban centers in an effort to drive young black kids away.

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spoonybard326 t1_j4j70dj wrote

If the goal is to annoy people I think Reddit can come up with a lot of music ideas that are worse than opera music.

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LoMeinCain t1_j4j96x2 wrote

Wish there were places in the US that actually helped homeless in a way that doesn’t enable them

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SCirish843 t1_j4j98h6 wrote

Really hope they're playing 'Time to Say Goodbye'

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Zestfullyclean87 t1_j4jaqtw wrote

Replying to Jrich954 (#1,372,537)

West Palm started doing something like this near the waterfront. The benches had bars added so people couldn’t sleep, and there is a park where they started playing music

The bridge to go to palm beach island (which is just outside of the downtown waterfront) has 9-10 cameras. Whenever the homeless people cross the bridge, the Palm Beach police pick them up, drive them back to the mainland (West Palm) so that they’re out of their jurisdiction, and so that the island locals don’t complain

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CrawlerSiegfriend t1_j4jcc6h wrote

Seems like a bad idea because as a spending customer I would never enter a store that is playing loud opera music.

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Windturnscold t1_j4jgjlt wrote

The homeless sleep along train tracks, no way opera bothers them at any volume

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Successful_Tea2856 t1_j4jigsa wrote

The police don't enforce noise ordinances anyway. Just ask a cop when was the last time he checked a Harley for Legal Pipes.

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WhynotstartnoW t1_j4job71 wrote

Replying to spoonybard326 (#1,373,002)

>If the goal is to annoy people I think Reddit can come up with a lot of music ideas that are worse than opera music.

just blast the raunchiest SKA music around. you'll drive away 98% of everyone, and the remainder will be flailing their bodies to the grating sounds untill they die of exhaustion.

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reachingFI t1_j4jqzan wrote

This mixed with architecture that has huge rivets helps a ton with the homeless loitering problem. Genius.

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AbjectReflection t1_j4jtrxs wrote

More NIMBY's who solution is "out of site out of mind", and not contributing any solutions to actually help end the problem. Only thing good that 7-11 actually did was declare bankruptcy in 1990, too bad it didn't end them altogether with bullsh*t like this...

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Chazzy_T t1_j4ju77z wrote

i don’t mind the topics but the posts today seem a little more… off of what r/nottheonion is for

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JerrodDRagon t1_j4jvo9j wrote

Imagine just blaming people for being homeless instead of volunteering or giving money to local shelters

As someone very close to being homeless or sucks. I lucky have friends helping me but been looking for a job for 9 months after my profit record breaking company decided to fire me a top performer because I voiced I didn’t want to come back to work in the office

I can’t sure because they were layoffs but you don’t fire someone doing 120% on average The only time I dipped under 100 percent production was when we didn’t have enough work

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GetCoinWood t1_j4jvwks wrote

A place where I live blasts baby shark all night long to keep the homeless away.

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picklecruncher t1_j4jwu6l wrote

They do this at a bank here to dissuade the homeless. It is LOUD.

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RobsEvilTwin t1_j4jy04x wrote

Replying to txgypsy (#1,372,687)

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When I was a kid the local council, police, and school headmaster got together an agreed to build skate ramps for us (my dad was one of the volunteers).

It was also made very clear to us that if we decided to skate anywhere else, we would be beaten like a drum. Yes that also included by Dad :D

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GetCoinWood t1_j4jyzv1 wrote

Replying to RobsEvilTwin (#1,374,389)

That part of town is crazy. I do account management stuff for some restaurants in that part of town. Manager told my coworker that a guy ran in the restaurant claiming he was just anal raped by two other homeless. It’s a real problem and in a gross way I understand why the business does it.

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RobsEvilTwin t1_j4k0cra wrote

Replying to GetCoinWood (#1,374,403)

I have had to design services in some areas so that no component is less than 5M off the ground or outside my clients building. Vandalism, people using it as a toilet, shit you probably would believe from the sounds of it.

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CalTechie-55 t1_j4k1enj wrote

Not liking classical music leads to homelessness.

I would love to go to a store that plays classical music.

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breadmeal t1_j4k4ftz wrote

This has been happening at a couple places in Portland for a while

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roosterchains t1_j4k5qc2 wrote

Every 7/11 in San Diego that is near a large homeless population does this.

It is fucking annoying when your eating next door and here the loudest opera music.

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dalisair t1_j4k8qjs wrote

Man, classical? I’d sit and chill. I used to use that to GO to sleep as a teen.

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mattlore t1_j4k9kua wrote

When I lived in Toronto: All of the subways stations in the "shadier" ends of town always did this as well.

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antiquemule t1_j4kdgba wrote

Headline: "Boom in sales of noise-reducing ear buds for the homeless" /s

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hauj0bb t1_j4kdt57 wrote

Murrica at tits finest, lol.

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Yeahwowhello t1_j4ken51 wrote

Replying to Hawanja (#1,372,743)

Ha, did you catch that news interview? In the vid they mentioned a cathedral that has sprinklers to shooshoo away the homeless. But for some weird reason no one bashing on Mr God

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Yeahwowhello t1_j4kf7n9 wrote

Replying to LoMeinCain (#1,373,124)

My friend decided to help out a homeless guy, he seems cool and intelligent, and my friend wanted to help out. So he brings him food, gave him his couch a few tea, you know, talked a lot, helped out with cash here and there. The guy became so comfortable and blew up hos cover, that he just does that, he does nothing, gets around $4000 a month on all benefits, stamps and assistance, and the friends pay. Boy was he mad.

A lot of people are suffering, truly. And that's horrible. But a looot of people just abuse the system with your money, directly and your taxes.

So how do you teach people to be adequate and self sufficient if it's easier the other way around?

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Aae_kae2 t1_j4kgdtn wrote

Dude be thankful they arent using the Baby Shark song like that park in Florida

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NessyComeHome t1_j4kkobp wrote

Replying to DeaDGoDXIV (#1,373,240)

Not to contradict your experience, but in my area, the ones annoying others and getting yelled at by the bus driver are in their late 20's, early 30's. Playing music without earbuds / earphones, taking calls on speaker phone...

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FirebirdWriter t1_j4km9jl wrote

Replying to rainbowstriper (#1,375,170)

I did many times when homeless. Dancing releases endorphins. Now that was before I was a homeless adult with a malpractice suit I didn't know I had yet. Misdiagnosis on a spinal injury that took it from treatable to worse than most like it because I kept making myself walk since "nothing is wrong with you".

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PhilterCoffee1 t1_j4kms5y wrote

That's basically rock bottom for western civilization...

It took the entirety of human history to develop all the techniques, instruments, harmonic theory, composition, organizing almost 100 people with different instruments to play together in an orchestra, training people to sing several octaves, and so on and so forth, and what do we do with that now? We consider it a useful tool to push away the homeless...

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FirebirdWriter t1_j4knpid wrote

Replying to rainbowstriper (#1,375,237)

Why would anyone fantasize about being homeless? This isn't asked in anger but genuine confusion. It is a desperate time where you are invisible unless someone is either going to try to help you which is rare or is a danger to you. Not a fun fantasy.

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rainbowstriper t1_j4ko4e1 wrote

Replying to FirebirdWriter (#1,375,252)

I never said anyone was fantasizing about being homeless. I just thought “homeless me” was supposed to mean “if I was homeless and in that scenario”. I just misunderstood what you meant, it’s not that deep. I know being homeless isn’t a fun fantasy, that would be weird.

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FirebirdWriter t1_j4koay6 wrote

Replying to rainbowstriper (#1,375,267)

Thank you for answering my question. I appreciate that since it's not a simple topic. I figured just asking was better than assuming the worst. I refer to my past selves like that often. Kid me, adult me. It's not caused this sort of misunderstanding before but I will keep that in mind

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Beautiful_Marketing6 t1_j4kq8cd wrote

I think the bigger story IS ALL THIS HATE FOR MY MANS BACH AND EM!!!

Should read: Homeless and community come together to APPRECIATE classical music and Opera

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SubterrelProspector t1_j4kqgn4 wrote

They do this at all the Walgreens here in Tucson, AZ. It's shameful and dystopian.

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FirebirdWriter t1_j4kqwdd wrote

Replying to Beautiful_Marketing6 (#1,375,352)

Yeah Marie Antoinette did similar things. I don't understand and did not before I was homeless but I appreciate your reminder that this is a thing. It's just absolutely foreign to me which is why I asked for clarification. It's simpler to just ask sometimes. Also the shelters were much worse than the roofs for sure. I kept a fork from dinner one night and put it to good use because I was tired of hearing the assaults and noticed the placement patterns so decided to maim someone. It gave us a whole week off of that. Incase your brain requires some vindication juice (blood vindication juice is blood)

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FirebirdWriter t1_j4krff9 wrote

Replying to Beautiful_Marketing6 (#1,375,383)

Not until they're in a position to. I think actually a lot of our scary stories from history are not really monsters but coping mechanisms and training tools that let people prepare for the worst of humanity. That's my coping mechanism for it anyway. I know exactly what I am capable of and it is terrifying. It is also comforting to know at my physical lowest I can still also destroy someone if I need to survive but the price is unpleasant to say the least. If people all knew at all times there would be a lot of people who couldn't cope and would break down causing some very real chaos in society. It's to our benefit that ignorance on this topic exists to a degree. It also does harm but I don't think society would survive as we know it if most people knew. That might not be a bad thing but it could be.

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FirebirdWriter t1_j4krtpp wrote

Replying to Beautiful_Marketing6 (#1,375,409)

I mean they're worse in my.non joking answer to your joke. They're the root of most modern badness including homelessness. We have the technology to feed and house everyone and give everyone medicine. Corporations work very hard to criminalize that to force profit. It's as if those feral people are in charge

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Dirtbag_Bob t1_j4ku0et wrote

Where is the empathy and compassion in this entire thread? What have we devolved to as humans?

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exscapegoat t1_j4kyzz5 wrote

Replying to x97sfinest (#1,374,663)

I was at dmv near Christmas one year when two people were yelling into their phones. All of the sudden the loudspeakers started playing the dance number in the Peanuts Christmas special. Seemed to calm the crowd.

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Niteynitenurse t1_j4kzztx wrote

Replying to JoanNoir (#1,372,220)

A lot of the Walgreens in Albuquerque do this. First time I heard it I momentarily was surprised and thought how cool it was to be playing loud classical music in their parking lot and walkways. :/

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taylorpilot t1_j4l1y82 wrote

Trying to bring class to the masses and this is the respect you get?!

/s

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RSomnambulist t1_j4l41yd wrote

They do this in Jacksonville near the downtown area at a gas station.

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bighungrybelly t1_j4l5ovx wrote

Replying to Niteynitenurse (#1,375,825)

Now I know why a 7Eleven did this in DT Portland. I was visiting a few years ago, and the hotel I stayed at had a 7Eleven nearby that played classical music all night long. I too thought it was cool that that they did that

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dxtboxer t1_j4l7csh wrote

Giving them the ole Noriega special

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Mike__Z t1_j4l85ba wrote

And now everyone is focused on the "EviL SToRe PuShiNg ThE HomELeSs aWaY" instead of the government that let homelessness get to this point instead. Don't hate on a victim of the issue.

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emm7777 t1_j4ldza8 wrote

They do this at the Walgreens by my house. It does not work.

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pukingpixels t1_j4lmypb wrote

They should try Skinny Puppy like they did in Gitmo.

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kapege t1_j4ln5mi wrote

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lazy_phoenix t1_j4lnb8a wrote

I feel like opera music would attract me if I was homeless

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[deleted] t1_j4lp100 wrote

Replying to mstrss9 (#1,377,018)

All the black kids started driving pickup trucks & wearing MAGA hats:) Really, I’m not sure. Wasn’t around long enough to see the results of their little anti-social experiment.

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SmartBoot5880 t1_j4lsip0 wrote

Replying to Dirtbag_Bob (#1,375,515)

I love Reddit, always romanticizes the homeless and thinking they are all victims. I swear, if 90% of the people on Reddit stepped outside and into the city, they would instantly turn after watching some black hobo doing fent and screaming about his taint and Jews over and over while slowly fondling his penis.

"BUt but but, we just need to treat people with kindness all the time, and they just need more homes and houses! We need just need to build more houses!" - The morality pearl-clutching of a man or obese white woman who has never stepped outside and had an interaction with a real homeless encampment.

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san_serifs t1_j4lt2s0 wrote

There's a McDonald's in downtown Chicago that had a persistent issue of troublemakers loitering out front because it's steps from a subway station.

They installed outdoor speakers and play the song "Valerie" by Steve Winwood on a loop. It's working quite well.

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chandler-bing-pl t1_j4ltud5 wrote

Surprisingly this method doesn't work on the Pigeon Lady from Home Alone

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Dirtbag_Bob t1_j4lunmv wrote

Replying to SmartBoot5880 (#1,377,299)

I live in California and go to San Francisco and Oakland frequently. I'm not romanticizing anyone or the situation. The vast majority of homeless folk grew up in terrible situations, and I don't think playing opera at illegal levels from a city noise ordinance standpoint solves anything?

How would that be good for society or the situation?

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winkieface t1_j4m5e11 wrote

Replying to txgypsy (#1,372,687)

It kinda sounds like you were just being an ass hole to the Church, wouldn't leave them alone and force them to try weird shit to keep you away.

You were probably ruining their property and definitely causing trouble for any handicap people who might be at the church.

This story doesn't make you sound....very great.

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smoke99999 t1_j4m7qdc wrote

there's one in Orlando same way also a 7/11 blaring music so loud you can hear it several properties over past a you wash it car wash with about a dozen bays

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Surfguitar t1_j4m7t6s wrote

This has been going on for years. The park by my house plays classical music on the stage speakers all day to repel skaters. The fountain area plays it as well. Ditto for a whole strip mall by my house. Can't really blame businesses for wanting to keep their storefronts clear....

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Dirtbag_Bob t1_j4m8hpg wrote

Replying to SmartBoot5880 (#1,377,548)

But opera doesn't solve the problem is my point those people are still humans that exist in this world. At one point they were babies, kids, and now adults that are still a part of this society. There are assholes out there and some are violent and not great people at times, but still human. Many with severe mental illness and drug addiction.

Responding with neglect and being inhumane does nothing and if anything just exacerbates the problem. They'll still be out there somewhere and the neighbors are still going to have to deal with loud ass opera music instead of us as a society dealing with/helping the homeless.

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Horseface4190 t1_j4m9sxr wrote

No shit. I noticed loud opera playing a few blocks from my apartment, tons of homeless there. I don't know if its working but I like the idea.

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mmobley412 t1_j4mbprc wrote

Aside from the obvious shame that we have homeless people and the concept of repelling them like they are pests like cockroaches— it’s kind of sad that beautiful classical/opera music is seen as something that would be an effective repellent

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TheSciFiGuy80 t1_j4mfnp2 wrote

Replying to JerrodDRagon (#1,374,289)

I think the issue is not just being homeless.

It's the mess, the smell, some people feel unsafe with the louder “eccentric” individuals, etc.

We have homeless people that have moved into our neighborhood park. At first, I didn't mind as the folks who were sleeping there policed themselves and kept things clean. But then a few new people started staying there and they were the more “crazy kind” and that's when the first few folks left and things got bad. Now they're leaving their trash all around where they sit all day, and they're urinating and defecating on the concrete even though there are bathrooms.

People in the area are starting to call the cops and quite frankly I’d be all for the store next to the park blasting music if it made the park safe for our kids again.

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Ouisch t1_j4mwj7a wrote

I've read about stores using this tactic in the past to prevent folks from loitering in front of their business. I'm a huge Sparks fan, and my husband has learned to love many of their songs, but he's said more than once that "'Equator' is one of those songs that would keep people from congregating; heck, it would probably even scare the birds from nesting in their storefront sign!"

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JerrodDRagon t1_j4o6hh0 wrote

Replying to TheSciFiGuy80 (#1,378,456)

I’m not going to defend shitty behavior but this country had been ignoring these people for years and their are clear solutions to help them but we keep voting in assholes who only care about profiting the rich and businesses

Maybe if voters voted on people with better ideas then telling homeless people to just leave, we’d not have to be dealing with this situation

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ExDota2Player t1_j4paq59 wrote

Replying to WimpyLimpet (#1,372,240)

many aspects of homelessness are criminal. you can't sleep in your car on the side of the road or in a parking lot. you cannot panhandle. you cannot set up your tent on the sidewalk. you cannot loiter on private property.

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