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rikram101 t1_jbqt7fx wrote
Sarcasm meter off the charts.
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TheoCupier t1_jbsiwr7 wrote
Similar.
Wu-ching the TV while chi-gung some beer
jaybleeze t1_jbr434d wrote
Care to share your routine?
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faintu t1_jbsnwqz wrote
Thanks, that's a great explanation.
Stalinbaum t1_jbswjb2 wrote
I'm not spiritual and haven't done much martial arts or meditation. Do you actually feel these feelings? Do you believe it's placebo, or some mind trick, or is your mind really manifesting these feelings in your body?
Also as you seem to take great care in your wellbeing I can't suggest looking into mushroom extract drinks enough, like mushroom coffee. Not that MudWtr crap but species of mushrooms (not the magic kind) like Chaga and Lion's Mane have a ton of health benefits and as far we no there's no adverse affect to most of these extracts. Chaga is crazy, natural anti-inflammatory, and anti-tumor. They also remove free radicals from your body
Stryk_r1 t1_jbrreve wrote
Funny. Mines called Kah Kah.
bishopsfinger t1_jbsa5xq wrote
pssst... he's talking about yoga
montwhisky t1_jbrxc2k wrote
Yeah, that’s just lap swimming. Source: am swimmer. I swim 5 miles a week. That incorporates breath control, mindfulness, and flexibility.
JayList t1_jbssmqm wrote
It’s kind of funny that the title seems to out the two practices at odds even though breath work is mindful breathing.
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Elegant_Habit_9269 t1_jbr3qik wrote
It’s called yoga.
bionicbabushka t1_jbr4v3a wrote
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Zorkdork t1_jbprvkn wrote
TLDR: cyclic sighing for 5 minutes a day is the best option among those studied.
BeatsbyChrisBrown t1_jbroywh wrote
I do this plenty of times at work, along with face palming and turning my head side to side
SmokeAbeer t1_jbrrqfh wrote
Have you tried pinching the bridge of your nose and blinking really hard?
Rickshmitt t1_jbsgps6 wrote
Sometimes ill put glasses on so i can sigh and take them off
SmokeAbeer t1_jbskdhk wrote
That’s how the real work gets done.
gsohyeah t1_jbssqop wrote
Have you tried burying your entire face in the palms of your hands and rubbing your eye brows with your fingertips?
VruKatai t1_jbt0ycl wrote
Only after speaking to coworkers.
MichaelTruly t1_jbt89cr wrote
Nothing beats letting my neck go slack until my head receives a loud sudden massage from my desk surface. Repeat five or six times for best results.
VruKatai t1_jbt0uyu wrote
I also do this throughout my workday but more as a cause of hating my job after 28 years.
Tuckingfypowastaken t1_jbtx2cb wrote
yeah, but it has to be cyclic facepalming and cyclic head shaking
2Throwscrewsatit t1_jbrsi8v wrote
This is meditation
Vaelin_ t1_jbtafyb wrote
Did you read the article? They address what they were measuring and how.
matt____n t1_jbpqgzg wrote
Would being aware of your breath just be mindfulness in action?
foomy45 t1_jbpupib wrote
Yes, but it would not be breath work, according to the article:
>Interestingly, research has found breathwork and mindfulness meditation have distinct differences. Unlike mindfulness meditation, breathwork involves intentionally altering the body’s physiological state through controlled breathing techniques. Mindfulness meditation focuses on observing one’s breath without actively trying to change it, with the goal of increasing present moment awareness.
sleepnandhiken t1_jbrdmgf wrote
I wondered to what degree “don’t alter it just pay attention” is possible. It seems natural to me to adjust it once you are of aware of where you are at. Also it seems that you can’t focus on simply improving your breath work if you’re not mindful in that regard.
fuktardy t1_jbs8w3h wrote
Yeah. Stretching your breaths out to be very long and slow makes your heart rate slow down. Makes sense. Lungs are part of the cardiovascular system.
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Silver_Smurfer t1_jbpu2td wrote
Can be. Focusing on your breathing is one way you can ground yourself in the present, but it's not the only way.
acfox13 t1_jbptia7 wrote
Yes. Breath work is literally mindfulness meditation.
>"One conscious breath in and out is a meditation." - Eckhart Tolle
grizzburger t1_jbqkq83 wrote
So the whole time I'm busting my ass pumping iron at the gym, I'm also meditating? Far out
acfox13 t1_jbql9ev wrote
If you're doing it with intention and focus, yes. Yoga is a "moving meditation".
playfulmessenger t1_jbsckzf wrote
Yes. Exactly.
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isymic143 t1_jbpu95x wrote
Yes, but in mindfulness meditation one does not try to control the breath, only watch.
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Odd-Gear9622 t1_jbqnfzb wrote
Diaphrametic Breathing is taught in conjunction with both meditation and mindfulness at every Pain Clinic that I've attended (6) in the last 20 years. Together, they do indeed improve my mood because they help regulate my perception of pain.
yusquera t1_jbpxnls wrote
It sounds like they are talking about pranayama which is the yogic exercise of altering the breath to have different effects. It isn't necessarily the same as meditation because you might not do it repeatedly for long periods of time, which is basically what meditation is, but pranayama could be viewed as meditation because you are focusing on the breath and building awareness, and maybe doing it for some amount of time and repetition. This is why in zen they say everything is zen.. because whatever you are doing, for one second or one hour, is, in a sense, meditation. If anything there are different types of meditations. Some would say meditation is a key element of yoga, whether you are practicing pranayama, asana, or whatever, you are supposed to be meditating, otherwise it isn't yoga.
smallcoder t1_jbspng1 wrote
I'm partially disabled with mobility issues, and recently started Kum Nye meditation with my yoga teacher. I am a complete cynic about new age stuff in general but the combination of the breathing exercises and meditative focus is amazing in how it has given me more energy and lowered my general anxiety and pain levels.
I've no idea what the science is behind it all, and frankly it is unimportant to me as long as it works :)
I just have to agree that focused breathing exercises - which are part of the Kum Nye method - are amazing.
yusquera t1_jbsux78 wrote
Yes, the yogis were aware of this from a long time ago. Breathe properly and oxygen enters your blood, cells, and brain properly, and you feel relaxed and energized. It is kind of amazing how aware people were a long time ago.. yoga is an ancient art.
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chrisdh79 OP t1_jbpl0jj wrote
From the article: A new report published in Cell Reports Medicine has found that individuals who use assigned breathwork techniques experienced greater improvements in mood and lowered respiratory rates as compared to those practicing mindfulness meditation. These findings indicate that breathwork may be an important therapeutic tool for those experiencing depressed mood or an overactive nervous system.
Amidst the COVID-19 pandemic, breathwork has become a popular and cost-effective intervention for improving health and well-being through intentional breathing techniques. Numerous scientific studies have demonstrated how we breathe affects our heart rate, blood pressure, oxygen levels, and ventilation. In addition, initial research has provided evidence that techniques like slow and nasal breathing can enhance the quality of life for asthma patients, reduce anxiety, and improve alertness and learning abilities in people.
BokBokBagock t1_jbr79ek wrote
Box breathing really helps me when I start to feel overwhelmed
CPT_Shiner t1_jbswh3g wrote
Same! I recently started using it at work before big presentations and it helps me stay calm under pressure. Also good for dealing with young kids when they're acting crazy, without getting all worked up myself.
incognitochaud t1_jbrkh22 wrote
If you’re reading this: take the biggest, deepest breath you’ve had all day.
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kittenTakeover t1_jbqr2di wrote
Breath exercises and mindfulness are the same thing to many people.
DJ_DD t1_jbrhd3t wrote
Had a guided meditation recently very focused on breath work. Not even kidding my body was buzzing like I was coming up on DMT. A very profound experience indeed.
theguineapigssong t1_jbqb099 wrote
I do a similar thing for my high blood pressure and get positive results. There is a device called a Resperate that plays tones that cue you to inhale/exhale. It's expensive but worth it for me
LimeCheetah t1_jbsph0n wrote
There’s free apps that do the same thing. I use Breathe +
B-Bog t1_jbxsq69 wrote
They only did 5 minutes daily for both. I'd argue that
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breath work has a much smaller minimum effective dosage than meditation. That is to say, 5 minutes of breath work can fulfill the purpose of said breath work much better than 5 mins of meditation can fulfill the purpose of that activity. It takes our brain approximately 11 mins to truly focus on any given activity, so doing a focus meditation for less than 11 mins per day probably isn't going to achieve very much. And
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Meditation has a much steeper learning curve than breath work and can actually entail a lot of frustration and discomfort in the beginning. It's really not the relaxation or "stress management" exercise it is often marketed as here in the West, but a long-term project with the goal of increasing awareness. But as awareness grows, we are not going to like everything we become aware of. E.g. the first thing many people become aware of when meditating is how busy their mind actually is on a moment-to-moment basis, and how uncomfortable it is for them to sit down and not distract themselves with external stimuli. If you go into a meditation with the express purpose of changing your internal state, as you would with a breath exercise, you've really already lost the plot, because meditation is about acceptance and witnessing of the present moment as it is.
fourdac t1_jbqc1a1 wrote
Diaphragmatic breathing releases the stresses of existing spatially in 3 dimensions
NoelAngeline t1_jbrkcf7 wrote
I’ve only managed to truly breathe once in my life and it was amazing. If I lost control I would struggle and couldn’t breathe and had to refocus and it was the most mind blowing thing ever. I felt truly “better” afterwords.
I had been having a panic attack and sat down to try and breathe through it. I struggled and it was hard. But I got there and it was fantastic. Of course after that I walked out and my bird was having an asthma attack.
So much for that
Excitium t1_jbrzrxl wrote
Are you telling me all the cultivation fantasy was right all along.
Sitting down and practicing a breathing technique can improve yourself. Fantastical times we live in...
Available_Panic_5631 t1_jbs7i40 wrote
You need to take in Dao, it is simpler to breath and take in Dao than to have complex thought and take in Dao
IneoMors t1_jbsjbvp wrote
Any links to media for valid breath work options?
2legittoquit t1_jbson9a wrote
These are typically done in conjunction with each other.
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lowkeyalchie t1_jbqq0jp wrote
Never had breathwork help anything, sorry to say
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MalpracticeMatt t1_jbs8rqp wrote
I always thought they went hand in hand. A lot of mindfulness for me is focusing on my breath
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artbykoi4 t1_jbst4zk wrote
More specifically the physiological sigh. Inhale twice through the nose; first is a long passive one, second is a quicker aggressive one. Then exhale through the mouth emptying the lungs. Repeat.
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Spinalstreamer407 t1_jbtvo2u wrote
Bringing more oxygen to where it’s needed most in your body is incredibly important. Increasing lung capacity is a worthwhile destination. An everyday thing for self support. Imagine that.
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sysyphusishappy t1_jc0ipgl wrote
BTW if you want to try pysiological sighs, the specific breathwork that was used in this study but have a deviated septum or other issues breathing through your nose, one of the study's authors Andrew Huberman has said that you can do it just as easily through your mouth as long as you do a double inhale and a longer or more forceful exhale.
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christianhelps t1_jbrhh7v wrote
They're the same thing.
Toby_Forrester t1_jbsxsty wrote
No, they are not. Mindfulness is about being aware of your senses, feelings, thoughts, everything, without evaluating or judging them. Like if you have a bad thought, you note it is there, but do not judge or start analyzing it. You treat it like a noise from a radio, not as something that requires you to react.
Breathing excercises make midfulness easier.
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TickTock432 t1_jbrfyin wrote
Authentic / traditional ‘mindfulness’ practice includes breathwork. If your “mindfulness” practice isn’t rooted in a foundation of breathwork, then it isn’t mindfulness practice.
pihkal t1_jbsdvsk wrote
Anapanasati doesn’t involve altering the breath, only watching it. And since the Anapanasati Sutta is part of the Pali Canon, the oldest extant Buddhist scriptures, it’s pretty “traditional”.
TickTock432 t1_jc05w0h wrote
The very modern invention known as ‘Buddhism’ didn’t invent and doesn’t own traditional mindfulness. The practice of mindfulness, of ‘remembering‘, which includes remembering how to properly breathe as we evolved to, extends far back into the mists of time and cross-culturally, noting that even just observing the breath is ’working’ (consciously engaging) with it.
wutzinanumber311 t1_jbqhju3 wrote
meditation is just breath work, our imaginations build meditation into this grand mysterious thing to keep us from how simple it is, hence meditation practices that have nothing to do with breathing
ExtremePrivilege t1_jbpv7u9 wrote
Ideally you do both. Someone should invent a meditative exercise routine that incorporates breath control and mindfulness into balance and flexibility training.
I bet that would be really popular!