In theory if it's the same cells/physical mass as normal meat, you may be able to use meat glue to adhere it to itself. It's used for things like imitation crab and chicken nuggets.

I will not eat bugs, I'll eat my neighbors before it comes to that.

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I was wondering why this sub is so amazing lol. This is what futurology used to be like back in the day

Sorry that my auto-correct changed singularity to singularly. Crucify me if you must. I would think that once singularity occurs, there will be no need for the human body to consume carbon-based food for energy and we would be one with the machine. Or am I incorrect?

I wanna know how it's bad for ecology and what can be done about it.

>You can skip all kinds of unwanted growth and a life cycle normal animals have to undergo if you specifically focus on muscle tissue and other parts we actually want to eat and grow it as rapidly as possible.

Thats not how it works. Not one single cell works on its own. In the lab we go around this by pumping insane amounts of chemicals into the medium they grow in and change that medium regularly.

To do what you are talking about and grow a specialized cell in a isolated environment means you need to go back a few steps to feed it.

For example. Feeding a cow requires having cattle feed. This means having a few plant crops that you can grind into meal and feed the cows with. (Lets just ignore for a second that you usually dont even need that, because most of the time they can graze grass from fields that cant grow agri crops).
Growing cells requires medium. To make medium you need amino acids, several minerals, vitamins, glucose, pH buffers, pyruvate, sodium... the list goes on. Not to mention ultra pure water.

To make just sodium pyruvate, one of the parts of this list, you need to make giant fermentation broths where sugars are metabolized by genetically altered microbes to produce a liquid which is then extracted using vast amounts of organic solvents at high temperatures. This sugar is produced by a crop you need to sow, the organic molecules by oil refining and more chemical processes that use vast amounts of energy and other chemicals. All of these chemicals and electrical energy cost the ecology.
THIS IS JUST FOR ONE PURE CHEMICAL FROM THE LIST.

Now imagine this for +20 other chemicals, which all NEED to be pure otherwise your cells wont grow. And compare this with just having two crops and a grassy hill to grow a cow.

What's that? Cows also need a lot of water and electricity, not just food?

Youre right!

Cultured meat need a sterile environment, extremely well controlled conditions and tons upon tons of really pure water. Im not even talking simple destilation. It needs to be completely deionized and filtered.

Can you imagine the energy needed to keep a vat of 100's of liters of liquid always heated to 37°C? Its a lot.

You should go to a local lab and ask someone to show you how a cell culture is made.

You are right, plants and animals didnt evolve to be eaten by us.

But we cultivated them, directed their evolution to become as efficient as possible to be eaten by us.

The best we could with cross breeding -that is. genetic modification might change that.But then we wiill have large plants outputting nutrient dense fruit that is either directly sent to the table or grinded and turned into food patties of different shape.

Not this shit.

Thats a lie. Animals die for making the medium used to culture the cells. Animals die even in plant farming, just not pigs or cattle. But insects, rats, mice, snakes, bees, small animals and everything else that gets caught in the fence. And it's not a small number.

And if you think that it's better for a rat to die than a pig then you are admitting not all life is equal. If you think all life is equal than plant farming kills more.

Its all bullshit. It's a farce to sell ideas that sound futuristic or ideologies that sound philanthropic.

If you have ten times the energy and resource expenditure then animals die, just further down the line. Where that power is made from building new power plants.

You're not reducing cruelty, you are distancing it from yourself to not feel it as much.

It would be only more convenient because you can ship the liquids for the medium in a box onto a space station, while you can't do that with a chicken as easily. But I think you underestimate the size of the facility needed to make a sufficient production of meat for the astronauts. And it will be nutritionally inferior to real meat that you can also ship in a box and launch it towards a space station.

How does that make it different? Its still made the same way and still wastes resources

the animals deserve better! they are stupid but they do not deserve to be slaughter, in such unhumane way.

I am for the peace of the animal upvote if agree with me.

Tastes pretty good though

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is ur hamstermeat from ur hamstersandwhich 3d printed

honestly, the only reason I haven't switched to vegetarian ""meat"" is because it's more expensive and tho the way we treat live stock is absolutely horrendous, I don't give enough of a shit to switch. (I do occasionally like a cereal patty, it changes from good ol' meat and goes well with a lot of stuff.)

but hey, if it tastes the same and is at the same price or even cheaper than natural meat, I'll switch without hesitation, I don't even care if it looks weird if the taste and texture is here.

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I can see why some people might not like lab grown stuff, but is it really much different than animals being packed together and stuffed with anti-biotic ? (outside of the absence of unneeded suffering)

if anything, it's probably healthier to eat lab-grown meat than cheap natural meat.

Hi, I'm a biotech major and a scientist. This meat is made by using large vats of cultured cells. Specifically, muscle fiber cells. To get the same nutritional value as real meat you would need to have each type of cell usually present in an animal muscle. Which is difficult to even know, let alone develop, grow (some cells are harder to grow than others) and structure into a muscle replacement.

I don't like OPs naturalistic bs. Proteins are the same if synthesized or cut out of the cow. But this slab of printed mush is not nutritionally equivalent to real meat. Proteins aren't the only thing you require from meat. It's in fact the least important thing on it. You can get protein from plants too, you can't get, however, several important vitamins, iron, carnitine and fatty acids that are simply not produced by muscle cells alone.

And if we do ever make such a real replicas it will be incredibly taxing for the environment.

The Amazon will have to burn down at twice the rate.

Not once did they mention real meat in their ingredients. Both red meat and white meat have nutritional value that cannot be matched through plant proteins, and the bio-availability for your body to process and use those plant proteins is inferior to animal protein. Not to mention soy isn't that healthy in frequent servings, especially if you're a male as it raises estrogen levels. I'm a nutritionist and my statements aren't ignorant "bro". Plant proteins can be beneficial, but the function of plants in our diet isn't to serve protein needs, but other needs like vitamins, fiber, potassium, etc. This is why its bio-availability is significantly less. You can manipulate proteins into any shape you want, and that's fine. It still doesn't compare to the nutritional value of meat like protein, fat, naturally occurring creatine, essential amino acids, etc.

But I suppose if you prefer sitting on some sort of moral superiority throne behind your keyboard calling bros ignorant, then maybe it's above your standard.

Artificial meat uses BSA to grow it.

Do you know the only way possible of obtaining this BSA? An unavoidable resource for growing meat.

They need to stab a baby calf in the heart to extract it. They use cows for their production, it's just further down the line.

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