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Treacle123 t1_iwhuq08 wrote

What were the dumb shits who run this facility doing while this was happening?

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Pygmyponymontana t1_iwhv0tf wrote

So some PETA nit wit wit decided to save the minks by releasing them. Good job, minks are carnivores who will eat whatever animal, bird, or fish that they can catch, including pets. So instead of saving animal lives, they effectively have unleashed little killing machines in that area.

Oh, did I mention that they are also cannibals. Great job dumbass.

Edit to say I have no information saying that PETA is involved in this. This has happened multiple times in multiple countries, always with the same result.

I guess politicians are not the only ones to ignore history.

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kracer20 t1_iwhwcvx wrote

That is a giant amount of sharp little teeth released in this area. Would not want to be the neighbors right now.

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CleverNomDePlume t1_iwhzh9e wrote

Say goodbye to songbirds and any bird that nests in the area.

There are bans to weasels as pets, in many areas, because they are so destructive to non native environments. Even one getting loose can reign havoc. This is definitely enough to maintain a breeding popatuon. I hope that they are at least a native type to the area.

You'd think that a facility that had so many of them would need some security to make sure things like this wouldn't happen, since the consequences can be so severe environmentally.

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buzzonga t1_iwi22cp wrote

We simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes.

They'll wipe out the minks.

But aren't the snakes even worse?

Yes, but we're prepared for that.

We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

Then we're stuck with gorillas!

No, that's the beautiful part.

When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

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BeyondInfinity73 t1_iwicyuc wrote

I used to work on a mink farm, mean little fuckers.

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333H_E t1_iwiixx4 wrote

Bad for birds hell on the rodent population. But the farmers may see increased yield from crops with the removal of other species which feed on/destroy said crops. Lose the chicken but get more corn. I'm interested to see how it plays out in years to come.

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Jonherenow t1_iwikpjf wrote

Once they’ve decimated all the wildlife in the area most will die of starvation, or the article says they’re cannibalistic. Even worse.

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Treacle123 t1_iwitdqf wrote

Large scale animal facilities generally have high tech security systems throughout and often have staff onsite 24/7 for emergencies as one this size should have had.

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calliatom t1_iwitzz2 wrote

Okay, but did they not have any night watchmen or what? Like... mink fur as a product is both valuable and very controversial, they had to know that it's a bad idea to not have anyone watching them overnight.

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Spazmer t1_iwiupyu wrote

I'm not a big fan of the mink family as one ripped my chickens apart for funsies, but the owner was likely a godawful person too. That many minks on a farm would have kept them in tiny cages. When you cage minks like that then go crazy, spend their lives spinning in circles and bashing their heads on the sides of the cages. Then they just leave them with open head wounds since taking care of them would cut from profits. We had one not far from us and an employee snuck out videos. So horrible. The animal welfare people knew what was happening and barely took action, I wouldn't be surprised if someone got desperate and thought they were helping. Without actually thinking it through.

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Pygmyponymontana t1_iwiw2pv wrote

While I agree with you that doesn’t justify breaking and enter, vandalism, and theft. There are many things I despise that are legal, but I do believe in the rule of law.

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kevinds t1_iwiwfri wrote

How do they not know how many?

25,000-40,000 is a very wide range..

Every farm I've been on has known exactly how many animals were on site.

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Retired-Pie t1_iwiwnoo wrote

Ladies and Gentlemen, the American Government! Solving problems the best way possible since forever, because that's how long we've been here. Certainly no one else here before us......

Anyway, next week we will discuss our plans for inflation! hint hint it has something to do with corporate tax breaks and printing 🎶extra money🎶!

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ash_274 t1_iwizvam wrote

Kill off the birds and rodents and then expect the insect population to explode. Get enough of a grasshopper population boom and they could go full locust and your problem turns biblical. This generally is going to be fucked in various ways over the next 5-15 years because of one "save the poor minks" guy that didn't think beyond the "???" step.

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333H_E t1_iwj1utm wrote

Being the omnivorous creatures that minks are those locusts will get it too. It was by all means a terrible idea to let them loose. It's about managing the best of a bad situation at this point.

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3006mv t1_iwj3fzx wrote

What were they being raised for?

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0110010001100010 t1_iwj7e7o wrote

I live in Ohio and this might be the most Van Wert thing ever, lol.

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drLagrangian t1_iwj7kvl wrote

>At least one unknown suspect released the minks from a farm overnight Tuesday. Officials say they pose a risk to local wildlife and livestock.

This is literally the first line. The sheriff is investigating a person who released the minks, the government had nothing to do with it and didn't release them .

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Retired-Pie t1_iwj89xf wrote

Dude, understand context and jokes better..... I know that already.

The comment I responded to is written in such a way as to imply that the sheriff ls department or another authority system was making plans to release various other invasive animals in order to solve this issue. That's funny, get it? Anyone trying to solve the issue of an invasive species by releasing another invasive species is an idiot.

I made another joke about how the government in general is made up of idiots and this is the kind of solution that they might come up with. It's a joke, it's not meant to be taken seriously.....

Get it now?

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Seanny69 t1_iwj8lsc wrote

Mice and rats won’t be an issue for a while

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Captain_Comic t1_iwjcmak wrote

I have this image of a mink horde swarming over the countryside devouring every thing in their path - kind of like the Ghost Army in LOTR: ROTK

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a_phantom_limb t1_iwjiwzk wrote

If, by any chance, the person that did it thought they were standing up for animal rights, they actually just committed something akin to an act of terrorism against the local environment that will have consequences for decades. Wildlife in that region will be devastated.

Edit: To be clear, I believe that mink farms are abhorrent and should banned. But unleashing tens of thousands of predators into the local ecosystem is quite terrible.

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Agreeable-Ad1221 t1_iwjl7mn wrote

While most will likely starve, be killed by accidents, culled, or eaten by predators it's very likely some will survive and learn to adapt causing damage to the environment for a long time, all thanks to some dumb fucking animal rights activists

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Rosebunse t1_iwjm9h0 wrote

I know it's wrong, but stories about people releasing minks from mink farms always make me laugh.

Yes, this has happened more than once.

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Freshiiiiii t1_iwjme0z wrote

Thank goodness at least they are a native species (if they’re American mink at least). They have natural predators, and their populations will reduce and stabilize over time. Better than if they were a potentially invasive species we might never get rid of.

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vdthemyk t1_iwjthqy wrote

I used to live near there. They have a bunch of black squirrels that were amazing to see driving through. Guess they won't be there much longer.

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TheWanderingSlacker t1_iwjuwgh wrote

If tens of thousands of mink were released, it’ll be hundreds of thousands of animals killed. Minks are voracious killers. I’d be surprised if anything smaller than a Labrador remains there in a matter of months.

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NanditoPapa t1_iwjvxks wrote

And also thanks to some dumb fucking people supporting factory farms...which cause damage to the environment. Looks like a "fuck everybody" type situation 🤷🏼‍♂️

Edit: Sure, downvote "factory farms are bad" as the wrong take. Lol...only on Reddit is being a good human the wrong way to go.

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Stryker2279 t1_iwjxlcw wrote

So when those mink destroy the local wildlife and drive species to extinction, collapsing the local ecology and eventually all those mink just starve because they've outcompeted the local wildlife, what then? Is that dipshit still a Saint?

Don't be stupid. Don't solve one problem by creating a far worse problem.

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CleverNomDePlume t1_iwk0xh7 wrote

I agree with you. The risk of them getting loose and the issues that will follow are so large that whatever tax dollars they brought in from the business are wiped out. And that's keeping the issue of animal welfare to the side and just looking at a cold cost breakdown.

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CleverNomDePlume t1_iwk1ell wrote

The story I heard (USA public education), about rabbits in Australia, was that they aren't native, and are a big problem with native ecosystems. I heard that some British governor imported them, so that he and his cronies could have their jolly, gentilemanly hunts.

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saints21 t1_iwk3xey wrote

Can we discuss how the article felt the need to discuss the minks per capita of the town and county?

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Itchy_Focus_4500 t1_iwk40uq wrote

Coyote, fox, hawks, eagle, turkey buzzard population is about to EXPLODE!

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plemur t1_iwk435d wrote

A mink farmer stands astraddle a chest high metal cow gate overlooking an undulating sea of shiny fur. A bead of sweat rolls down his face, cutting through dust and dirt. He wipes it away with the back of a mink gloved hand holding a mink fur cowboy hat that matches his mink fur coat.

"Hmmm... 25 to 40,000, I'd say"

An older, grizzled mink farmer draped in even more mink fur apparel stands some way back looks into the distance, sure not to look at the hypnotic sheet of tangled, squiggling minks.

"Yuh, sounds about right." As he nods to an eager, fresh-faced teen who dutifully writes the numbers down in a mink fur bound notebook with a mink fur pom-pom adorned pencil.

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Chrisboy265 t1_iwk527o wrote

I think the people who did this are idiots, but terrorism? Unless they did this with the sole intent to destroy the ecosystem, I think calling it terrorism is a stretch. Idiocy is more fitting.

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CleverNomDePlume t1_iwk5c7n wrote

I'm picturing this Gov'ner dude showing up and being like, "whatever shall I hunt to pass the time?" And then looks at the native wildlife, and is just like "nope" and then sends to daddy's estate to have foxes and bunnies shipped in.

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a_phantom_limb t1_iwk63x6 wrote

Is it loaded language? Sure. Is it hyperbolic? In terms of impact, I honestly don't think so. If one is advocating on behalf of an ecosystem, as is sometimes the case both rhetorically and legally, some human terms are going to be applied. No one literally wages war against the environment and no one can literally terrorize a habitat, but the end result is equivalent: human-caused carnage endured by organisms that can't defend themselves from people's actions.

Still, your objection is valid and I'll try to rephrase it.

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wickedgrin420 t1_iwkfx9l wrote

Don’t worry, 80% were quickly caught..

So that is maybe, at most 8000 blood thirsty minks on the loose… should be fine 🧐

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Swarbie8D t1_iwki3ij wrote

I mean, essentially yeah. I guess kangaroos and emus are too intimidating compared to the usual small game they hunted. Our troubles on the mainland (Tasmania had a rabbit problem first) stems from just 24 rabbits that were released. For a while they were kept under control by native predators but natural selection meant that they got hardier, until we had a population explosion. In the 1950s we deliberately spread a rabbit-killing virus, which worked for a bit, but they’ve adapted partial immunity to that now.

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Neighthirst t1_iwkikp5 wrote

Haha, As an Australian this gives me a strong sense of deja vu.

For those who may not know, European settlers introduced rabbits for hunting, but they spread quicker than they could hunt so they introduced foxes now over 150 years later both rabbits and foxes are wreaking havok to our environment.

And they didn't learn their lesson so similar thing when they introduced sugar cane, they brought cane beetles with them so later introduced cane toads to eat the beetles so now we have plague proportions of cane toads because all the native animals die when they eat them.

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Neighthirst t1_iwkiprl wrote

I'm all for preventing animal abuse but releasing them to the wild wasn't the way to go about it, by doing so they've caused far more death and suffering than they prevented (including for the minks which are likely to either cannibalize each other or starve to death)

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Same-Salamander8690 t1_iwkkhu8 wrote

I live about 45 minutes from this farm.

So badly do I want grab a bucket and a cage. But those fuckers are mean

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HellHathNoFury18 t1_iwkmbk8 wrote

I don't think it's the Australia episode (could be wrong), I think it's the episode when bart shoots the bird with the bb gun. Feels bad so starts taking care of the eggs which turn out to be some invasive lizard.

The Australia episode he just over runs Australia with frogs.

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davtruss t1_iwkotxp wrote

There is absolutely nothing to be concerned about, unless the "fresh kill" diet of an intermediate cross transfer species for horrific viruses should cause concern.

I'm going to be honest. I really didn't think we had mink farms in the U.S. any more.

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IlluminatedPickle t1_iwkpqdy wrote

I found it wild when I moved to WA and people just didn't give a shit. They were like "oh look at that cute little wild rabbit!"

"uhhh you mean terrible invasive species we should want to kill on sight, right?"

"... You monster!"

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fakefalsofake t1_iwkpugr wrote

Yeah, it's episode 3 from season 10.

Bart the Mother

Bart accidentally kills a mother bird with Nelson's BB gun, and tries his best to raise the mother's eggs on his own. But when the hatchlings turn out to be a pair of destructive lizards that harvest nests for their own survival, the town's bird population is placed at great risk.

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mickelboy182 t1_iwkq371 wrote

I'm in Victoria and they are fucking EVERYWHERE around my parents place in the outer burbs. Good thing is they are suicidal on the roads and end up getting run over by accident (and sometimes not I'm sure) a lot.

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IlluminatedPickle t1_iwkq9ei wrote

Yeah, it's wild in a few states how lacking the feral/invasive control is.

WA had foxes just roaming through my suburb in Perth, you'd call the council and they were like "and?"

"and they're eating all the fucking turtle eggs you wankers are spending my tax dollars trying to protect, fucking shoot them"

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calliatom t1_iwkrrii wrote

Seriously...did these people not have any alarms or guards or anything like that? Or have them, but in a way that they were easily circumvented? It really shouldn't be this easy to let that many of any animal out, let alone something as dangerous as minks.

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afk2448 t1_iwkxlpo wrote

Boiological invasion at it s best. Same happend in germany now. Its a gg

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Fordmister t1_iwkxq60 wrote

Eh dropping a hyper concentration of any organism into a small area will cause a huge amount of ecological damage even of the animal is native. There's a reason all the big conservation reserves in Africa still practise controlled culling of endangered species.

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Nathund t1_iwlbzkn wrote

I mean... no not at all.

Sure it's disastrous for the animal being farmed (because they die and then get skinned), but it doesn't really affect the surrounding area.

At least, nowhere near as much as releasing them so they kill every single rodent and bird in like a 1,500 mile radius

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SlicerStopSlicing t1_iwldopz wrote

PETA did this in the UK years ago. Completely fucked up the local animal life.

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drengr84 t1_iwlio5s wrote

Homo sapiens are an invasive species, worse than any parasite. Parasites don't usually try to kill their host, because that would be self detrimental. We have powerful brains with self awareness, yet we choose destruction over sustainability.

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catty_big t1_iwlj5ds wrote

Just wait till they team up with the 30-50 feral hogs.

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drengr84 t1_iwlkt97 wrote

Parasites that are able to move to another host may kill their host. Parasites that rely 100% on one host for survival tend to avoid killing it.

In my bad analogy, humans don't have a secondary host to jump to.

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palabradot t1_iwlneeu wrote

They're an entirely different species? We have those around here, and I thought they were just a melanistic version of the same standard species. (their numbers peak during summer then get hammered in autumn-winter by the cats and birds of prey when there's no foliage to hide beneath and they stand out against the snow)

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tinymonesters t1_iwlojoz wrote

Ok so mink in pens hurts someone's feelings. Mink overpopulation devastating everything else until they deplete food sources and die starving is a moral victory. Good job

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NeilDeWheel t1_iwlsa0r wrote

I the uk 6,000 mink were released in 1998, with a further 2,000 a few months later. Two thousand were immediately round up but another two thousand were either run over by cars, shot or starved. The remainder killed people’s pets and chickens, birds in sanctuaries. They also killed many wild birds and animals.

This type of animal rights activism is highly irresponsible and does not do their cause any good.

Source

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RostyC t1_iwmam49 wrote

"for some unknown reason..." Really? Just maybe that person was against mink farms? Kept in tiny cages, alone, and then killed and skinned? Hmmmmmm

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hesh582 t1_iwmljfj wrote

They're domesticated and its nearly winter.

They'll cause some havoc, but they've not been taught to hunt by their parents and they've lived their entire lives in a small cage.

For the most part they're just going to die :(

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hesh582 t1_iwmlxfh wrote

This probably isn't that true, as much as the news is pushing this hysteria.

They're domesticated animals. Weasels learn to hunt by watching their parents. These animals have never seen anything but a cage. They might cause some damage, but I don't think it's going to be that much. Fur mink are not wild animals and are not going to be effective hunters. Especially since we're going straight into winter, and they won't have time to learn.

Most of them will be dead in a couple weeks :-/

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hesh582 t1_iwmnwiu wrote

I think it's going to be a lot less interesting than people think.

They're domesticated animals, bred for docility for a couple centuries. They never learned to hunt as pups. They've never seen anything but a cage. They've never eaten live prey. They're small animals with no experience dealing with predators. They're all starting in a small area that can't support even a fraction of them. It's almost winter. They're incredibly high metabolism animals that must eat constantly to survive.

Also... one thing to note. Mink farms are continually leaking mink into the surrounding ecosystem. Always and forever. It probably actually hurts the local mink population (these are native to the area) in the long run by introducing subpar domesticate traits into the wild population.

There will be a brief and localized surge in predation, then the overwhelming majority will starve to death and the mink population will rapidly return to where it was before, with worse genetics. In a couple years there may actually be fewer mink than there were before.

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333H_E t1_iwn6aex wrote

I'd argue the docility part. They're hardwired little killing machines, unlike ferrets for example. I do enjoy multiple perspectives on the outcome though. It's all guesswork at this point so it'll be interesting to see how it all pans out. Of course whatever the humans do will be a variable in the equation too.

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bleepbloorpmeepmorp t1_iwnrxju wrote

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